Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Big +1 to all Greg's comments below. Let's just try it - I don't see a huge effort/loss ratio - I think we'd all be surprised at how well folks are at responding to requests if we just ask them to. Cheers, Chris On 8/11/10 10:15 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010

Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator

2010-08-12 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 LieGrue, strub - Original Message From: Brett Porter br...@apache.org To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 2:31:25 AM Subject: Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator On 07/08/2010, at 1:21 AM, Brett Porter wrote: Hi, We have finalised

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote: Ant, My personal opinion (and i am hoping!) was that such individuals from ppmc's who end up in ipmc would help build bridges between podlings and will help get lessons learned (when any ppmc has

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-12 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:12, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: On 2010-08-11, Niall Pemberton wrote: The real point though is not size - its *activity*. [absolutely correct observation of low activity snipped] My

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-12 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana sanj...@opensource.lk wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: I feel kind of the opposite -- RAT is an important tool that's required of all the Incubator projects, but pretty

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-12 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Niall, On 8/12/10 2:52 AM, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote: Clearly then there are small TLPs that operate effectively. However any TLP that can't get 3 PMC votes is effectively dead and I don't want to see RAT end up in that situation in a year or two. Seeing only 3 votes

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Greg Reddin
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process for voting in new committers: basically

Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator

2010-08-12 Thread Dennis Lundberg
On 2010-08-12 02:31, Brett Porter wrote: On 07/08/2010, at 1:21 AM, Brett Porter wrote: Hi, We have finalised the proposal with the additional committer and it has now been posted for a couple of weeks, so I'd like to put it to a vote. With the weekend included, I'll tally the votes

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 12:43:59 AM Subject: Re: an experiment There isn't anything that would stop a mentor from proposing a podling committer who is not an ASF member as an IPMC

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 1:13:41 AM Subject: Re: an experiment Yes, definitely more controversial. Pros would include greater exposure to the Incubator noise, learning from others,

Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator

2010-08-12 Thread Luciano Resende
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Brett Porter br...@apache.org wrote: Hi, We have finalised the proposal with the additional committer and it has now been posted for a couple of weeks, so I'd like to put it to a vote. With the weekend included, I'll tally the votes after 5 days (120 hours).

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Craig L Russell
On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock to

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 2:21:44 PM Subject: Re: an experiment On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for

Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator

2010-08-12 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Brett Porter wrote: Hi, We have finalised the proposal with the additional committer and it has now been posted for a couple of weeks, so I'd like to put it to a vote. With the weekend included, I'll tally the votes after 5 days (120 hours).

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Craig, in my mind, it's not the number of steps that we eliminate, it's the message that we send. Instead of saying you all are *under* the microscope, we say that real quickly a few of you will become part of the microscope and look in on not just yours but also other podlings...my 2 cents.

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Dims, On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Craig, in my mind, it's not the number of steps that we eliminate, it's the message that we send. Instead of saying you all are *under* the microscope, we say that real quickly a few of you will become part of the microscope and

Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator

2010-08-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 -- dims Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote: +1 Craig On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Brett Porter wrote: Hi, We have finalised the proposal with the additional committer and it has now been posted for a couple of weeks, so

Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Fair enough :) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote: Hi Dims, On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Craig, in my mind, it's not the number of steps that we eliminate, it's the message that we send. Instead of

RE: svn commit: r984937 - /incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/deltacloud/

2010-08-12 Thread Gav...
-Original Message- From: cctriel...@apache.org [mailto:cctriel...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, 13 August 2010 6:05 AM To: public-comm...@incubator.apache.org Subject: svn commit: r984937 - /incubator/public/trunk/site- publish/deltacloud/ Author: cctrieloff Date: Thu Aug 12