RE: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Mark Struberg
Hmm, to be honest, I don't see this argument. Because you can also use a centralised model with GIT. Also, the main benefit of GIT is not only that you can do offline commits, but mostly that it's sooo much easier to merge! I had a merge hell with my colleague in the company this week. He kept

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Guillaume Nodet
I do agree with you. I don't really get this argument either. But in the meantime, you need to use an svn backend, and ask for a git mirror. You can then fork / merge at github the way you want, merge back into trunk and git svn dcommit from there. I think it's really worse, as branches

RE: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Gav...
-Original Message- From: Guillaume Nodet [mailto:gno...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 1 October 2010 5:11 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Podling to use native git I do agree with you. I don't really get this argument either. But in the meantime, you need to use

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Mark Struberg
I think it's really worse, as branches aren't maintained anymore in the apache svn area, yes, and anyone ever asked yourself _why_ this happens? The answer imo is: because its _sooo_ painful to do feature branches in SVN (and merge them back). GIT otoh has it's flaws too. There is e.g. no

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Guillaume Nodet
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:45, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: I think it's really worse, as branches aren't maintained anymore in the apache svn area, yes, and anyone ever asked yourself _why_ this happens? The answer imo is: because its _sooo_ painful to do feature branches in

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Enis Soztutar
Wow, I haven't intended to start another flame war : ) From a technical standpoint, I do believe that git will be the default choice of developers more and more in the upcoming years, and Apache will start to support read-write git one day. I was just curious if we can volunteer to be the first

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Florent Guillaume
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Toni Menzel t...@okidokiteam.com wrote: Its now the question to balance innovation (hence coolness) and solid, well well known processes. Its also that Subversion is still the king in corporates (well, together with CVS). So you would attract a whole different

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Toni Menzel
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Florent Guillaume f...@nuxeo.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Toni Menzel t...@okidokiteam.com wrote: Its now the question to balance innovation (hence coolness) and solid, well well known processes. Its also that Subversion is still the king in

RE: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Gav...
-Original Message- From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:f...@nuxeo.com] Sent: Friday, 1 October 2010 7:52 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Podling to use native git On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Toni Menzel t...@okidokiteam.com wrote: Its now the question to

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Enis Soztutar
Hi, On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Enis Soztutar enis.soz.nu...@gmail.com wrote: ..In the preparation phase for the recent Gora podling, I realized that the code needs be restructured to subversion

Incubator PMC/Board report for October 2010 (general@incubator.apache.org)

2010-10-01 Thread no-reply
Dear ALOIS Developers, This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly board report. The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 20 October 2010, 12 pm Pacific. The report for your

Incubator PMC/Board report for October 2010 (general@incubator.apache.org)

2010-10-01 Thread no-reply
Dear Gora Developers, This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly board report. The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 20 October 2010, 12 pm Pacific. The report for your

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Guys, As the project's champion I'll work with the rest of the mentors and PPMC members to make sure we are moving forward in the Apache Way. Cheers, Chris On 10/1/10 2:23 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Enis Soztutar

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Kitty to Enter the Incubator

2010-10-01 Thread matthew
I am calling this vote as suggested: IPMC Binding: +1 Jim Jagielski Kevan Miller Davanum Srinivas Niclas Hedhman Julien Vermillard Alan D. Cabrera Mark Struberg (my apologies to anyone I may have missed) Non-binding: Stuart Williams Rainer Jung Niclas Hedhman Mohammad Nour El-Din (my

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 04:45, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: I think it's really worse, as branches aren't maintained anymore in the apache svn area, yes, and anyone ever asked yourself _why_ this happens? The answer imo is: because its _sooo_ painful to do feature branches in SVN

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: I do branches all the time in Subversion, and don't see problems. We periodically update the branch from trunk, and when the work is done, merge the branch back onto trunk. These are straight-forward operations, so I don't

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Kitty to Enter the Incubator

2010-10-01 Thread Mark Struberg
you even have one more, since Niclas is also a member and IPMC [1] ;) LieGrue, strub [1] http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html --- On Fri, 10/1/10, matt...@matthewsacks.com matt...@matthewsacks.com wrote: From: matt...@matthewsacks.com matt...@matthewsacks.com Subject: Re: [RESULT]

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Mark Struberg
It seems that with 1.6 SVN did learn a bit about the 'git way' (apologize if it was even earlier and has nothing to do with git). SVN now applies merges bit by bit it seems (tested with 1.6.9). But I still have problems with intermediately merged projects (merging the trunk into my branch ~

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Benson Margulies
Well, the last time I had to know, ASF SVN was not 1.6, and the only merge technology was svnmerge.py, and make sure there's no Chinese in your log comments :-) It works. It doesn't work nearly so well as git for merging. CXF developers routinely use git-svn for feature branches. For all I know,

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Kitty to Enter the Incubator

2010-10-01 Thread matthew
Corrected. Thanks for the catch! -Original Message- From: Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de Sent: Friday, October 1, 2010 5:55pm To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Kitty to Enter the Incubator you even have one more, since Niclas is also a member and IPMC [1] ;)

Re: Podling to use native git

2010-10-01 Thread Greg Stein
Yup. The 1.5.x release introduced a feature called merge tracking, but you really want to use 1.6.x (where many merge tracking issues were fixed/improved/sped-up). It remembers which revisions have been merged into a given location in the repository. This means bringing a branch up to date is