Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 Martijn On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:49 AM, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote: Hi everyone, this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and developers

Re: [PROPOSAL] Deft for incubation

2011-06-28 Thread Ashish
+1 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Niklas Gustavsson nik...@protocol7.comwrote: Hi, I would like to propose Deft to be an Apache Incubator project. Deft is a non-blocking, asynchronous, event driven high performance web framework running on the JVM. Here's a link to the proposal in the

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
On 6/28/11 7:49 AM, berndf wrote: Hi everyone, this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. +1 -- Regards, Cordialement, Emmanuel Lécharny www.iktek.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:49, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote: Hi everyone, this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and developers are changing

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:49 AM, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote: [X] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being /niklas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Tommaso Teofili
+1 Tommaso 2011/6/28 berndf ber...@apache.org Hi everyone, this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and developers are changing frequently

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:49 AM, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote: this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling +1 I will also forward the vote message to bluesky-priv...@incubator.apache.org and to J.Aaron Farr and Bill Stoddard, listed as mentors as

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Yep, makes sense. Like I told Benson, I wasn't exactly sure if the mirroring system were read only downstream of the Apache root sources (IOW, I thought we had more control then in reality we did).

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hence the need for people to download KEYS files from an *.apache.org domain that we do control. Putting KEYS in a distribution might cause people to use them instead of getting them from a trusted source,

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hence the need for people to download KEYS files from an *.apache.org domain that we do control. Putting KEYS in a distribution might cause people to use them instead of getting them from a trusted source, and that's bad. The keys should be included in the web of trust, so it shouldn't

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
we copy a KEYS file into that directory upon succesful VOTE of the release artifacts (which also include the KEYS file). Perhaps, but the point we're getting at was explicitly stated by Benson, The goal here is to allow and encourage consumers to independently verify signatures.  That calls

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to know how many signing keys are actually trusted which have been used for our releases. Quite a few, see http://people.apache.org/~henkp/trust/apache.html BR, Jukka Zitting

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I would like to know how many signing keys are actually trusted which have been used for our releases. Quite a few, see http://people.apache.org/~henkp/trust/apache.html Interesting - thanks for the link. So, 53% of our software is signed with untrusted keys. I have expected 70% untrusted

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Christian Grobmeier wrote on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:20:13 +0200: we copy a KEYS file into that directory upon succesful VOTE of the release artifacts (which also include the KEYS file). Perhaps, but the point we're getting at was explicitly stated by Benson, The goal here is to allow

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Christian Grobmeier wrote on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:20:13 +0200: we copy a KEYS file into that directory upon succesful VOTE of the release artifacts (which also include the KEYS file). Perhaps, but the point

Re: ODF Toolkit Incubation Pre-Proposal

2011-06-28 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 20:51:53 -0400: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Rob Weir wrote on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 19:00:50 -0400: Hi Dennis, If I understand correctly, the practice at Apache would be to remove these legacy

Key security (Re: KEYS and releases)

2011-06-28 Thread Nick Kew
On 28 Jun 2011, at 09:53, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hence the need for people to download KEYS files from an *.apache.org domain that we do control. Putting KEYS in a distribution might cause people to use

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Nick Kew
On 28 Jun 2011, at 10:49, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I would like to know how many signing keys are actually trusted which have been used for our releases. Quite a few, see http://people.apache.org/~henkp/trust/apache.html Aaargh! That needs a health warning: pointing firefox at it just

Re: Key security (Re: KEYS and releases)

2011-06-28 Thread Daniel Shahaf
I'm not sure what I think of your suggestion of having an ASF PGP key. How about requiring committers to specify on id.a.o not just the last few bytes of their key's fingerprints, but the whole fingerprint? Nick Kew wrote on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:43:24 +0100: On 28 Jun 2011, at 09:53,

Fwd: ODF Toolkit Incubation Pre-Proposal

2011-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
Passing along, from the ooo-dev list. -Rob -- Forwarded message -- From: Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com Date: 2011/6/28 Subject: Re: ODF Toolkit Incubation Pre-Proposal To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org Hi Rob, i support your idea and i think that it make sense to

Re: ODF Toolkit Incubation Pre-Proposal

2011-06-28 Thread Yegor Kozlov
Hi Rob, I'm a committer and PMC in the POI project and I'm interested in integration with the ODF Toolkit. Apache will be a good home for this codebase and many ASF projects will benefit from it. For POI I see the following potential benefits: - have a common Java API to manipulate with

Re: ODF Toolkit Incubation Pre-Proposal

2011-06-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Rob Weir wrote on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 20:51:53 -0400: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Rob Weir wrote on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 19:00:50 -0400: Hi Dennis, If I

Re: Key security (Re: KEYS and releases)

2011-06-28 Thread Benson Margulies
There's another possible dimension to this, which is related to the 'Apache Key' suggestion. The current mechanism gives a\ sophisticated/ consumer tools to get some confidence that what they downloaded was, in fact, created by someone in the Apache infrastructure. If a dozen black hats create

Re: Key security (Re: KEYS and releases)

2011-06-28 Thread Nick Kew
On 28 Jun 2011, at 13:22, Benson Margulies wrote: There's another possible dimension to this, which is related to the 'Apache Key' suggestion. The current mechanism gives a\ sophisticated/ consumer tools to get some confidence that what they downloaded was, in fact, created by someone in

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:49, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote: The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC. I'll extend the voting period until 2011-07-05 so the project has some time to find new mentors. Bernd - To

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
+1 (binding). Cheers, Chris On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:49 PM, berndf wrote: Hi everyone, this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and developers

Re: ODF Toolkit Incubation Pre-Proposal

2011-06-28 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:52:58 -0400: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Rob Weir wrote on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 20:51:53 -0400: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Rob Weir wrote on

Re: Key security (Re: KEYS and releases)

2011-06-28 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Nick Kew wrote on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 14:13:51 +0100: As of now, how would you know if I were to smuggle in a key pretending to be yours and start signing things? Don't stop here. If you can smuggle a signature into dist/ then you can smuggle an artefact too.

Re: KEYS and releases

2011-06-28 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Thanks Bertrand! Cheers, Chris On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Yep, makes sense. Like I told Benson, I wasn't exactly sure if the mirroring system were read only

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 Ralph On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:49 PM, berndf wrote: Hi everyone, this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and developers are changing

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:49 AM, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote: Hi everyone, this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and developers are

RE: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I don't have Internet access right now, except for ssh to my mail server. Has anyone told the BlueSky project about this vote, yet? I'm +1 for retirement, but feel that part of the process for retiring a project should be notice to the project that retirement is being considered and acted upon.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Deft for incubation

2011-06-28 Thread Roger Schildmeijer
Thanks Ioannis, Emmanuel, Ashish and Bernd. // Roger Schildmeijer On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Bernd Fondermann bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote: +1, sounds interesting. Good luck! Bernd On 28 Jun 2011 08:42, Ashish paliwalash...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011

FYI, clarified the voting in a new committer podling instructions

2011-06-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, I added a requirement for podlings to report committer vote results to our private list, indicating which mentors or Incubator PMC members voted +1, which is a requirement for a valid podling committer election. See http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1140654 for details, and

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Luciano Resende
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:49 PM, berndf ber...@apache.org wrote: Hi everyone, this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and developers are

Re: [PROPOSAL] Kafka for the Apache Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Chris Burroughs
Hi everyone. I've contributed a few (mostly small) patches to Kafka in the past and want to get more deeply involved. As I said below I have also been a user of Kafka and active on the mailing list. I've listed myself as an initial committer on the proposal

Re: [PROPOSAL] Deft for incubation

2011-06-28 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
+1 For the proposal On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Roger Schildmeijer schildmei...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Ioannis, Emmanuel, Ashish and Bernd. // Roger Schildmeijer On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Bernd Fondermann bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote: +1, sounds interesting. Good

Re: [PROPOSAL] Kafka for the Apache Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Joe Key
Excellent! I have already voted on the proposal and I am looking forward to the actual vote. Also, what path would you recommend for those willing to contribute time developing better documentation, testing or code? On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Chris Burroughs chris.burrou...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Kafka for the Apache Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Jun Rao
Hi, Joe, I'd expect people to contribute as any open source project : try/test the code, discuss on the mailing list, create/comment on the jira, submit/review patches, and become a committer. Thanks, Jun On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Joe Key joeandrew...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! I

[VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Jun Rao
Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/KafkaProposal And here is a link

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
+1 (binding). Thanks! Cheers, Chris On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Jun Rao wrote: Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Nigel Daley
+1 (binding) On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Jun Rao wrote: Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in the wiki:

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Joe Key
+1 Sincerely, J. Andrew Key (Andy) On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: +1 (binding). Thanks! Cheers, Chris On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Jun Rao wrote: Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Henry Saputra
+1 - Henry On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Joe Key joeandrew...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Sincerely, J. Andrew Key (Andy) On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: +1 (binding). Thanks! Cheers, Chris On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:00 AM,

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Jake Mannix
+1 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Chris Burroughs
+1 Chris Burroughs On 06/28/2011 01:00 PM, Jun Rao wrote: Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in the wiki:

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Hrishikesh Barua
+1 On 28 June 2011 22:30, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in the wiki:

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Alan D . Cabrera
+1 binding Regards, Alan On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Jun Rao wrote: Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
+1 (Binding) On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: +1 binding Regards, Alan On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Jun Rao wrote: Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. At

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Chris Douglas
+1 (binding) -C On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal.  Here is a link to the

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Damien Katz
+1 Nice work Jun :) -Damien On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Jun Rao wrote: Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote: ... Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote +1 (binding) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe,

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Shalin Shekhar Mangar
+1 (non-binding) On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote: Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. +1 /niklas - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

2011-06-28 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
+1 Regards, Alan On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:49 PM, berndf wrote: Hi everyone, this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and developers are

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 (binding) Ralph On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Jun Rao wrote: Hi all, Since the discussion on the thread of the Kafka incubator proposal is winding down, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in

Re: [VOTE] Kafka to join the Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread Jeffrey Damick
+1 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote: Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Accept Kafka for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to Kafka incubation [ ] -1 Reject Kafka for incubation This vote will close 72 hours from now.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Oozie for the Apache Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread arv...@cloudera.com
+1 (non-binding). Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Mohammad Islam misla...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I would like to propose Oozie to be an Apache Incubator project. Oozie is a server-based workflow scheduling and coordination system to manage data processing jobs for

Re: [PROPOSAL] Oozie for the Apache Incubator

2011-06-28 Thread arv...@cloudera.com
+1 (non-binding). Thanks, Arvind On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Mohammad Islam misla...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I would like to propose Oozie to be an Apache Incubator project. Oozie is a server-based workflow scheduling and coordination system to manage data processing jobs for Apache