Re: [VOTE] Release of Lucene.Net 2.9.4-incubating-RC3

2011-11-28 Thread ant elder
Looks ok to me. In future releases it might be good to consider including a release notes type file that mentions whats been updated in the release. +1 ...ant On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi all, We could use another vote or two, Thanks!

Step down as a mentor / Need replacement for Zeta podling

2011-11-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello all, I urgently need to remove some of my workload. Therefore I have decided remove myself from any political debattes of the ASF. In addition I have currently less fun in mentoring projects and need to step back or go to idle mode which is affecting the incubator. I have told the ooo

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread sebb
On 28 November 2011 02:56, Chris Douglas cdoug...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: I think you missed a very important part of what I said, let me quote the para you refer to: [snip] My point is we can't expect the mentors to

[SITE] Champion identification in podlings.xml and website

2011-11-28 Thread sebb
As people may have seen, I added a champion entry to podlings.xml. In the case of current podlings only, the entry is listed in the sponsor column under the sponsor name. The entries were extracted from the podling status files that listed their champion (not all do), and hopefully gradually

Re: [SITE] Champion identification in podlings.xml and website

2011-11-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:23 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: ...Assuming this goes ahead in some form: Do we want to list both the initial champion (prior to acceptance) and the current champion (during incubation; may be the same)? Or should we just list the current (incubation)

Re: [SITE] Champion identification in podlings.xml and website

2011-11-28 Thread sebb
On 28 November 2011 11:40, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:23 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: ...Assuming this goes ahead in some form: Do we want to list both the initial champion (prior to acceptance) and the current champion (during

Zeta Components looking for a new mentor

2011-11-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, as I intend to step down as a mentor from Zeta Components, there are only two mentors left. So this podling needs one more. Who is willing to help out? Cheers Christian -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-28 Thread Neha Narkhede
Thanks for the feedback, I still have some questions. 1. Alan, this nunit license acknowledgement is missing from the NOTICE file since RC1 and RC1 had the nunit files. Since cutting RCs is a significant time investment, we'd appreciate if you could list all the concerns you have once. 2. Sebb,

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/27/2011 3:34 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: I think I've been leading a sheltered existence. In the TLPs of which I play a part, over the 5 years or so that I've been around, I've never seen a release proceed past a -1. Every single time, a -1 has led to recutting the release. That is

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Neha Narkhede
That is because, every single time, the RM agreed that the release was worth re-cutting. We have been assuming that it is the rule of Apache to cut another RC even if it gets a single -1 vote. A majority of +1's over -1's is required, obviously :) Although this seems reasonable, do people on

[policy] release vetoes?

2011-11-28 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/28/2011 1:00 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: That is because, every single time, the RM agreed that the release was worth re-cutting. We have been assuming that it is the rule of Apache to cut another RC even if it gets a single -1 vote. And that isn't correct, as Joe was kind enough to point

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:56:59PM -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: A majority of +1's over -1's is required, obviously :) That would be sane, but that's not how I read this passage: http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes Votes on whether a package is ready to be

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Ross Gardler
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Nov 28, 2011 7:01 PM, Neha Narkhede neha.narkh...@gmail.com wrote: That is because, every single time, the RM agreed that the release was worth re-cutting. We have been assuming that it is the rule of Apache to cut another RC

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread ant elder
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Apache members, Over the past 2 months, the Kafka Apache incubator project has been trying to release its very first version in Apache. After 7 RCs, we are still not done. Part of this is because most of us are new to the

Re: [policy] release vetoes?

2011-11-28 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Nov 28, 2011, at 11:21 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 11/28/2011 1:00 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: That is because, every single time, the RM agreed that the release was worth re-cutting. We have been assuming that it is the rule of Apache to cut another RC even if it gets a single -1

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-28 Thread Neha Narkhede
Thanks Alan for summarizing the issues! We can perform all the other suggestions in a subsequent release. Sebb also had a suggestion about release candidate tags. The kafka community had discussed this and felt that creating a release tag is more convenient to do when a vote passes. Until then,

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Benson Margulies
Suggestion: There are cases where the 'official word' is a full-ASF document which we don't lightly edit. Yet, we see some evidence that podlings have trouble reaching the right interpretation. We don't want to duplicate, but we could supplement. Specific proposal: I'm willing to try to write a

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Chris Douglas
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:50 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: In which case, I suggest you post a clean message requesting feedback, as this thread does not appear to be the right place for this now. The link was to the last RC. -C

Re: [VOTE RESULT] Graduation of the Empire-db Podling

2011-11-28 Thread Francis De Brabandere
Hereby I would like to mark this vote closed with the following result: 4 IPMC +1 votes (Benson, Martijn, Chris A, Alan) 4 PPMC +1 votes (Francis, Rainer, Benjamin, Eike) 1 community +1 vote (Dimitar) no -1 or +0 votes Combined with our empire-db-dev@ vote round we can conclude this vote

Re: [policy] release vetoes?

2011-11-28 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/28/2011 3:19 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On Nov 28, 2011, at 11:21 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: No - nobody can veto a release. But you also can't slip in a vetoed patch and say this is a release vote, its not subject to veto. Well, as I had hinted, the RM can withdraw a vote, which

[IP CLEARANCE] Apache Geronimo 2.2 Dependency Upgrades

2011-11-28 Thread Kevan Miller
The Apache Geronimo project has received a contribution which updates a number of Geronimo dependencies and associated code updates. The code contributions have been attached to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-6217 I've committed the IP Clearance form to the Incubator website --

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread David Crossley
Search for the two words: release veto A top hit is http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes It has been that way for a long time. It is the Release Manager who decides whether to halt a release. They are guided by +1/-1 votes. I cannot understand why people are confused on

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Ross Gardler
On 29 November 2011 00:12, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: When Apache Forrest became a TLP, just prior to the Incubator starting, there were no mentors to tell me stuff. HeHe - and that's exactly where I learned it - although I was lucky enough to have mentors within the project.

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Chris Douglas
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: I cannot understand why people are confused on those points. Empathy is hard when you've forgotten what it was like to learn the topic. There is a lot of documentation, but it is not curated. To apprehend the topic, one

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-28 Thread Kevan Miller
On Nov 28, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: Thanks for the feedback, I still have some questions. 1. Alan, this nunit license acknowledgement is missing from the NOTICE file since RC1 and RC1 had the nunit files. Since cutting RCs is a significant time investment, we'd appreciate if

Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases

2011-11-28 Thread Jun Rao
Thanks everyone for the feedback. This is very constructive and helpful. We will try to roll out a new RC accordingly. We are grateful for all the help that we got from Apache members and are proud to be part of Apache. Jun On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:

RE: [VOTE RESULT] Release of Lucene.Net 2.9.4-incubating-RC3

2011-11-28 Thread Prescott Nasser
Thanks Ant - our dev list agrees that we should be adding some information about what is being updated - we will include this in future releases. With that, we have 3 votes we need, we appreciate your guy's time in revewing our release. ~Prescott