Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: ...Half the committers are ASF members so they know what they're doing already, we're not going to teach Sebb anything new about doing releases... Indeed ;-) ...All thats needed is a software grant and IP clearance (which

[jira] [Created] (INCUBATOR-126) Sometimes its not clear that the who vets the podling name

2013-05-27 Thread Alan Cabrera (JIRA)
Alan Cabrera created INCUBATOR-126: -- Summary: Sometimes its not clear that the who vets the podling name Key: INCUBATOR-126 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-126 Project: Incubator

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-126) Sometimes its not clear that the who vets the podling name

2013-05-27 Thread John D. Ament (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-126?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13667772#comment-13667772 ] John D. Ament commented on INCUBATOR-126: - Isn't it stated here?

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-126) Sometimes its not clear that the who vets the podling name

2013-05-27 Thread John D. Ament (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-126?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13667801#comment-13667801 ] John D. Ament commented on INCUBATOR-126: - It also states (one line up) The

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-126) Sometimes its not clear that the who vets the podling name

2013-05-27 Thread Alan Cabrera (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-126?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13667806#comment-13667806 ] Alan Cabrera commented on INCUBATOR-126: That's a good idea. I think we should

What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
Looking at the podlings.xml and it's not clear to me what the difference is. I'm sure I neglected to read some documentation bit. Regards, Alan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I asked the same question in july 2011, and got a response from Henri Yandell which I repost here: Given the PPMC is closed down, I think it has to be retired. Dormant implies a PPMC is taking some time off. Basically this is a larger version of don't be afraid to delete a line of code; it's in

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
They kinda sound the same. Why didn't podlings want to retire? Does anyone know? Regards, Alan On May 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I asked the same question in july 2011, and got a response from Henri Yandell which I repost here: Given the PPMC

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Upayavira
I think it was just a question of 'retiring' sounding too final. Using the word 'dormant' was less threatening, and made it more feasible for the podlings to go, well, dormant. Upayavira On Mon, May 27, 2013, at 05:39 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: They kinda sound the same. Why didn't podlings want

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Alan Cabrera
Yeah, I like the word dormant as well. Should we rename them all to dormant? Regards, Alan On May 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: I think it was just a question of 'retiring' sounding too final. Using the word 'dormant' was less threatening, and made it more

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: Yeah, I like the word dormant as well. Should we rename them all to dormant? +1 from me. So far I don't see any difference in the end. Regards, Alan On May 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread John D. Ament
I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator perspective. Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but believe later on we can build it back up. Retired - we've given up all hope of becoming a TLP, instead we think it's best to archive the code/move it to

AW: Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 for this interpretation -- John D. Ament schrieb am Mo., 27. Mai 2013 21:17 MESZ: I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator perspective. Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but believe later on we can build it

Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?

2013-05-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com wrote: I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator perspective. Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but believe later on we can build it back up. Retired - we've given up all

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-27 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 (binding) Ralph On May 24, 2013, at 12:23 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: Dear ASF members, We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator. The proposal draft is available at: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal, follows below the proposal Open is open for at

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-27 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On May 27, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: ...Half the committers are ASF members so they know what they're doing already, we're not going to teach Sebb anything new about doing