Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Alex Harui wrote: In a past discussion about by-laws, some folks were adamant that voting for new committer and PMC members be consensus votes so a single person can block the adding of a candidate. Do any projects use some form of majority voting for new

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Jake Farrell
Hey Alex If during a new committer vote someone is giving a negative vote then the reasoning should be included with that vote and a discussion can follow around why the person was given the negative vote, this should all occur on the private@ mailing list for that project. If there is hesitation

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-26 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 25/09/14 19:19, Suresh Marru wrote: If you need a mentor, count me in. I actively contribute to Apache Airavata, and will be happy to bring our experiences from a similar journey. Infact Ross queried on airavata lists few years ago about potential taverna move to airavata/apache(Ross

RE: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Trying to build on Joes answer below Given that the ASF is about consensus the vote for.at should be mostly irrelevant. Nominations should have been thoroughly discussed before the vote is called. The vote should be a formality required by the bylaws to demonstrate consensus. What I mean

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Noah Slater
As the primary author of the CouchDB bylaws, I will weigh in here. Agree with Ross on the discussion stuff. We actually codify this attitude in our bylaws. http://couchdb.apache.org/bylaws.html#decisions Specifically, we (CouchDB) see voting as the failure mode of a discussion (a useful one

RE: Code Donations and Committer Righs

2014-09-26 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
It really depends on the project. I don't think there are enough cases of code coming into an existing project via SGA to be able to say most projects. Fact is most have never faced this issue. I could give you my personal opinion but I'm pretty sure someone on this list would have a different

Re: Code Donations and Committer Righs

2014-09-26 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Ross, Yes, I am asking here because of lack of consensus in the Flex project. In this particular scenario the Flex TLP has received a donation from non-committers. I know one of our mentors mentioned that he was given committer rights to different project for bringing in a code base after

RE: Code Donations and Committer Righs

2014-09-26 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
OK. I will give you my personal opinion since you are seeking to drive consensus... I would say that if the code is of sufficient quality and relevance for the project to want to accept it then contributors should be given commit rights. The debate should really about whether they get PMC

Re: Code Donations and Committer Righs

2014-09-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Just like Ross, the following constitutes my personal opinion (that has been formed over the years of maintaining complex code bases written before my time): On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: OK. I will give you my personal opinion

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Noah Slater
Another way of wording this would be: the CouchDB community feels that for non-technical decisions, a single -1 vote should never block a majority consensus. The idea being that if the reasons for the -1 vote were compelling enough, others would change their position. It happened recently on a

Re: Code Donations and Committer Righs

2014-09-26 Thread jan i
On 26 September 2014 19:23, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: Just like Ross, the following constitutes my personal opinion (that has been formed over the years of maintaining complex code bases written before my time): On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread jan i
On 26 September 2014 19:43, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Another way of wording this would be: the CouchDB community feels that for non-technical decisions, a single -1 vote should never block a majority consensus. The idea being that if the reasons for the -1 vote were compelling

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: In a past discussion about by-laws, some folks were adamant that voting for new committer and PMC members be consensus votes so a single person can block the adding of a candidate. Do any projects use some form of majority

Podling name change - Optiq becomes Calcite

2014-09-26 Thread Julian Hyde
We have discovered that we are unlikely to be able to trademark Apache Optiq, so we intend to change the name of the project to Apache Calcite. The PPMC likes the name, and a trademark search reveals no competing uses of the name. What are the next steps? Can someone who has been through the same

Re: [PROPOSAL] Grill as new Incubator project

2014-09-26 Thread David Nalley
currently employed by SoftwareAG. Raghavendra Singh from InMobi has built the QA automation for Grill. What kind of QA environment does Drill/Lens have currently? How much do you expect to need going forward? --David - To

Re: [PROPOSAL] Silk as new Incubator project

2014-09-26 Thread David Nalley
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org wrote: I would like to propose Silk as an Apache Incubator project. The new proposal is added to https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SilkProposal and is duplicated below. Hi Cos: Are there any other resources that Ignite will

Re: Podling name change - Optiq becomes Calcite

2014-09-26 Thread Hendrik Dev
Hi Julian, we just renamed fleece to johnzon so maybe i can help: - Check for the new name: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html - We voted on the dev list for the new name - Open a issue like this one to get approval from @trademark

Re: [PROPOSAL] Grill as new Incubator project

2014-09-26 Thread Ted Dunning
Drill uses standard sorts of CI infrastructure. Lens (was Grill) is something I don't know about and they are the ones who might have something unusual. On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote: currently employed by SoftwareAG. Raghavendra Singh from InMobi has

Re: Podling name change - Optiq becomes Calcite

2014-09-26 Thread Julian Hyde
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Hendrik Dev hendrikde...@gmail.com wrote: we just renamed fleece to johnzon so maybe i can help: - Check for the new name: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html - We voted on the dev list for the new name Still consensus building but will move to

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-26 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
Thanks, Andy, and all who responded and volunteered (yay!). I'm sure Shoaib will respond, but as I have been the main maven and build guy on the project I guess I should also chip in. I'll try to find time to respond properly to the excellent questions next week, in between my baby duties. Some

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-26 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Thanks David makes sense to me and thank you for explaining Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:59 PM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Guys, -Original Message- From:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Grill as new Incubator project

2014-09-26 Thread Sharad Agarwal
Lens has the functional test suite that includes cube ddls, queries, test data, scripts etc that requires standard build and test infra. On Sep 27, 2014 3:45 AM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote: currently employed by SoftwareAG. Raghavendra Singh from InMobi has built the QA automation for

Re: [PROPOSAL] Silk as new Incubator project

2014-09-26 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
We have updated the proposal with the section of Comparative analysis to relevant projects which addresses the questions expressed below. Regards, Cos On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:21PM, Henry Saputra wrote: Hi Cos, Looks like a good start of the proposal. How would this project relate

Re: [PROPOSAL] Silk as new Incubator project

2014-09-26 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Hi David. I believe it will be needing a usual place to publish releases and perhaps some CI time-share on builds.apache.org, but I am sure the latter could be addressed by using different resources if it seems to be an issue. Regards, Cos On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 03:50PM, David Nalley wrote: