Good suggestion.
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From: Jim Jagielskimailto:j...@jagunet.com
Sent: 1/13/2015 9:33 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.orgmailto:general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: What is The Apache Way?
Perhaps it is time we hired a contractor
Even better suggestion. Do you want to take it up with Sally directly? (and big
thanks in advance)
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From: Jim Jagielskimailto:j...@jagunet.com
Sent: 1/13/2015 9:33 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.orgmailto:general@incubator.apache.org
+1.
Colm.
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote:
+1 binding as well.
On 2015-01-10 07:07, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
+1 binding
Regards,
Alan
On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea hzbar...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
From the conversation with
On 01/10/2015 01:18 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
This still only has 3 committers.
How is the project going to function with such a small group? I don't
see that there has been a realistic answer to this question.
This has been discussed by the (proposed) mentors along with the
community
Perhaps it is time we hired a contractor to draw up the one document of truth?
My thoughts are that Sally certainly groks the Apache Way, and
knows who to contact for more detailed info and clarification.
Why not add this as a task to HALO, and put some $$$ towards
it?
If we go that route, I'll own it, since it makes
sense as a VP Legal responsibility in a lot of ways.
On Jan 13, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
Perhaps it is time we hired a contractor to draw up the one document of
truth?
My thoughts are that Sally
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Well, David, I'm afraid you are the authoritative source on the policy you
use as an example.
:) Well - I suppose I did open myself up for that.
If it's not documented and that's a problem then
Thanks for taking my comment the way it was intended (to fuel productive
debate) :-)
You are right that VPs don't set policy but they should write policy and submit
to the board for tuning and/or approval/rejection. In turn those VPs will
typically consult with their committee members. It
+1 binding
have fun
jan i
On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','l...@toolazydogs.com'); wrote:
+1 binding
Regards,
Alan
On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Hal Lockhart hal.lockh...@oracle.com
wrote:
I call a vote to accept OpenAz
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Can you please expand on I think the answer starts with the very skepticism
of top-down governance which has in large part kept us from having clear
rules up till now.
I'm not clear on what the
Well with that clarification I'm a very strong +1 on everything you said :-)
Ross
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From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:mar...@rectangular.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 6:49 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc: Shane Curcuru
Subject: Re: Clear expectations
On Tue,
+1 from me!
Paul
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Dilli Arumugam darumu...@hortonworks.com
wrote:
+1
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:14 PM, DRAGOSH, PAMELA L (PAM)
pdrag...@research.att.com wrote:
+1
Pam
Pamela L. Dragosh
PMTS Research
One ATT Way
4D-170P
Bedminster, NJ
+1 binding as well.
On 2015-01-10 07:07, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
+1 binding
Regards,
Alan
On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea hzbar...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
From the conversation with Marko, he intended to submit this as a formal vote,
but didn't use the regular voting template.
+1
On Jan 13, 2015, at 4:58 AM, Paul Fremantle pzf...@gmail.com wrote:
+1 from me!
Paul
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Dilli Arumugam darumu...@hortonworks.com
wrote:
+1
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:14 PM, DRAGOSH, PAMELA L (PAM)
pdrag...@research.att.com wrote:
+1
Pam
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
wrote:
I think a better analogy would be US Culture. Yes it is as nebulous
as it gets, but the fact that US Constitution exists as a written document
+1
---
I call a vote to accept OpenAz as a new Incubator project.
The proposal can be found here: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenAZProposal
and is included below in this email.
Voting will remain open
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote:
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
wrote:
I think a better analogy would be US Culture. Yes it is as nebulous
as
Well, David, I'm afraid you are the authoritative source on the policy you use
as an example. If it's not documented and that's a problem then it's *your*
problem. You could (given even more time to volunteer to the ASF, solve it
however you like (e.g. Write the doc, ask the community to write
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
...Perhaps it is time we hired a contractor to draw up the one document of
truth?...
If we do that we'd better make it modular, so that one would be the
truth *about infrastructure matters*.
+1 binding
Regards,
Alan
On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Hal Lockhart hal.lockh...@oracle.com wrote:
I call a vote to accept OpenAz as a new Incubator project.
The proposal can be found here:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenAZProposal
and is included below in this email.
Will do :)
On Jan 13, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Even better suggestion. Do you want to take it up with Sally directly? (and
big thanks in advance)
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From: Jim
On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
On 01/10/2015 01:18 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
This still only has 3 committers...
...We do not, however, feel that it is a barrier to entering incubation -
merely something
to be addressed during incubation...
I agree with
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
Does it help anything to look at this, again, as failure modes?
How about this failure mode?
A podling receives thorough instruction on some policy during incubation.
After graduation, that policy gets violated, but
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:37 AM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote:
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Perhaps it is time we hired a contractor to draw up the one document of
truth?
I'm working on the 2015 budget now. Any volunteers to own this? Ownership
is ensuring that the individual gets
On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com
wrote:
...If the Board is willing to commission such a document, I will make it
happen
That would be fantastic, I think you'd do a great job in coordinating this
effort.
As you say I do care a lot about those things, but
Marvin, it doesn't need assigning. Just step up and do it. There may not be
full consensus on the value of this, but I think there are enough people saying
it has value to mean that it has some value.
Note the overlapping mails from Jim. I think it makes a huge amount of sense to
have budget
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com
wrote:
I would pour my heart and soul into such a role. I would give everything I
have to coordinate the delivery of minimalist authoritative documentation
worthy of Apache's traditions. It would be a huge contribution
Marvin,
Can you please expand on I think the answer starts with the very skepticism of
top-down governance which has in large part kept us from having clear rules up
till now.
I'm not clear on what the skepticism is that you refer to as these threads
have indicated that there are at least two
Could you send the [CANCEL] thread to officially kill this VOTE?
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Ate Douma a...@douma.nu wrote:
-1 (binding)
Besides the findings already reported by Justin Mclean in addition I
noticed:
- binary artifacts, including the -sources and -javadoc jars, do not
We will address the issues identified by Justin and Ate and submit again.
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Ate Douma a...@douma.nu wrote:
-1 (binding)
Besides the findings already reported by Justin Mclean in addition I
noticed:
- binary artifacts, including the -sources and -javadoc jars,
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