Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-29 Thread Pierre Smits
As the project included in the proposed graduation resolution (look for [1]), a set of by-laws can help. [1] RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Metron PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-29 Thread Casey Stella
The discussion seems to have died down enough that I feel comfortable opening up a new VOTE thread. Thanks everyone who has contributed; I know that the Metron community appreciates the feedback and discussion. Best, Casey On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Casey Stella

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-27 Thread Casey Stella
Thanks Dave; I think that we all appreciate the concerns around insulating the project from a single sponsor. The fact that we do take the ASF processes seriously is one of the things that makes the community comforted, I think. I appreciate the diligence in ensuring that we have our ducks in

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-27 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, Thank you for the answers. I am all for graduation if Metron. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Casey Stella wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > To clarify, we have 24 PPMC members, of which 12 are Hortonworks-affiliated > and 12 are not. We have

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-27 Thread Casey Stella
Hi Dave, To clarify, we have 24 PPMC members, of which 12 are Hortonworks-affiliated and 12 are not. We have 6 additional committers who are not PPMC members. Some of them are affiliated and some of them are not. For the purpose of this, we only captured the affiliations of the PPMC members. I

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-27 Thread Pierre Smits
I can't agree more. Though I am just one from the peanut gallery I primarily look at the CoC (community over code) aspects applied in podlings. Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > ...the question is not about whether or not HortonWorks understands the > Apache Way. It is what happens > to Metron if HortonWorks is no longer interested in the project?... Which boils down to whether the project is

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-26 Thread Debo Dutta (dedutta)
There are other folks from companies like Cisco who are also interested in the project. In fact Metron grew out of OpenSOC efforts from Cisco. debo On 3/26/17, 11:59 AM, "Dave Fisher" wrote: Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:03 PM, John

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-26 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:03 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 PM P. Taylor Goetz wrote: >> >> To be honest, I don't know, but I don't see it as a problem. >> >> I will admit upfront that I am a

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-26 Thread Pierre Smits
+1 from the peanut gallery.;-) Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Josh Elser wrote: > +1 from my limited interactions. >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-26 Thread Josh Elser
+1 from my limited interactions. I've had a few run-ins with the Metron crowd (winks) over the last year or so via IPMC votes. They've always been nice to work with and have shown positive responses from any release-time issues (e.g. licensing/branding). Casey Stella wrote: Hi Everyone,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-24 Thread John D. Ament
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 PM P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > To be honest, I don't know, but I don't see it as a problem. > > I will admit upfront that I am a Hortonworks employee, so there is > potential for bias. But I always try to wear the right hat, even when my > position

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-24 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
To be honest, I don't know, but I don't see it as a problem. I will admit upfront that I am a Hortonworks employee, so there is potential for bias. But I always try to wear the right hat, even when my position may not please my employer. As a mentor (to this and other podlings), I try to

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-24 Thread Dave Fisher
This is a list of 24 of which 12 are Hortonworks. Can we assume that the other 12 of which 6 are PPMC are unaffiliated? What percentage of the commits are coming from Hortonworks affiliated contributors? Thanks, Dave > On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:39 PM, Casey Stella wrote: > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread Casey Stella
Well, the metron community appreciates your +1 as a sign of goodwill. ;) On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 1:11 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Sorry, I probably didn't read the subject line, and draw wrong conclusion > when seeing the proposed resolution... > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Sorry, I probably didn't read the subject line, and draw wrong conclusion when seeing the proposed resolution... On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > This is not a VOTE thread. There is a misstatement to clear up. What part > of the maturity model is

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread Casey Stella
Right you are, this is not a VOTE thread. That would be premature at this stage until a robust discussion happens here. Regarding the maturity model, we have self-assessed our readiness based on the Apache Maturity model at

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread Dave Fisher
This is not a VOTE thread. There is a misstatement to clear up. What part of the maturity model is ongoing? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 23, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > +1 (binding) > >> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:32 AM, Casey Stella

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread Casey Stella
Of course, very fair question. Also, yes, the we have 36 committers as all PPMC members are committers. The affiliations are as follows: Hortonworks: * Sheetal Dolas (sheetal_dolas) * Larry McCay (lmccay) * P. Taylor Goetz (ptgoetz) * Ryan Merriman (rmerriman) * James Sirota (jsirota)

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
> On Mar 23, 2017, at 7:38 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:10 PM P. Taylor Goetz wrote: >> >> As a mentor, I fully support Metron's graduation. The community has come a >> long way, learned to make solid releases, build a

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread Debo Dutta (dedutta)
+1 On 3/23/17, 11:32 AM, "Casey Stella" wrote: Hi Everyone, The incubating Apache Metron community believes it is time to graduate to TLP. Apache Metron entered incubation in December of 2015. Since then, we've overcome technical challenges to

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread Suneel Marthi
+1 binding On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > +1 (binding) > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:32 AM, Casey Stella wrote: > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > The incubating Apache Metron community believes it is time to graduate > > to TLP. > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman
+1 (binding) On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:32 AM, Casey Stella wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > The incubating Apache Metron community believes it is time to graduate > to TLP. > > Apache Metron entered incubation in December of 2015. Since then, we've > overcome technical challenges

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread John D. Ament
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:10 PM P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > As a mentor, I fully support Metron's graduation. The community has come a > long way, learned to make solid releases, build a sustainable community, > and follow the Apache Way. > > One minor nit: The paddling status

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
As a mentor, I fully support Metron's graduation. The community has come a long way, learned to make solid releases, build a sustainable community, and follow the Apache Way. One minor nit: The paddling status page is missing a few Apache IDs, but I see them in the resolution, so it's an easy

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread Julian Hyde
I reviewed the last few months on the dev and private lists and the project is healthy, growing, increasing in diversity and making regular releases. In my opinion it is ready to graduate. Good luck! Julian > On Mar 23, 2017, at 11:32 AM, Casey Stella wrote: > > Hi

[DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

2017-03-23 Thread Casey Stella
Hi Everyone, The incubating Apache Metron community believes it is time to graduate to TLP. Apache Metron entered incubation in December of 2015. Since then, we've overcome technical challenges to remove Category X dependencies, and made 3 releases. Our most recent release contains binary