Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
However, we could easily convert to JSON for the published version of the file. Transformation to both formats are possible of course It's really a question of which format is easiest to maintain. XML of course. Although JSON is simpler, it does not allow comments AFAIK, which I think

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
That would probably be fine - I'd like to see it before endorsing it fully. It would have been better to do it in a branch. Agreed. Actually there was so less comments (most of them positive) that I didn't think about a branch. The current half-finished changes have made it difficult for

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:58 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 October 2011 02:02, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: sebb wrote: Christian Grobmeier wrote: I've not started looking at generating projects/index.xml yet. Reading the past mails shows me you are +1 to commit the

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread sebb
On 10 October 2011 09:09, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:58 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 October 2011 02:02, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: sebb wrote: Christian Grobmeier wrote: I've not started looking at generating

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread sebb
On 8 October 2011 05:25, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: Donald Whytock wrote: sebb wrote: There ought to be a tapestry.html file locally; may need to generate a dummy one if the original cannot be recovered (or never existed). Weird...there IS a Tapestry page:

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 October 2011 09:09, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:58 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 October 2011 02:02, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: sebb wrote: Christian

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread sebb
On 10 October 2011 12:18, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 October 2011 09:09, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:58 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 October 2011

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:57 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: Thats exactly what I mean with a mess. Hope it clarifies a bit, b/c I thought about it a pretty long time. I agree that the LHS menu is confusing and messy, but for me, the RHS list is simple and useful. For me the RHS list is not

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:57 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: Thats exactly what I mean with a mess. Hope it clarifies a bit, b/c I thought about it a pretty long time. I agree that the LHS menu is confusing

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
- 95+ visible links on a webpage visible navigation is a mess for me. It's not much longer than the LHS navigation, and would be a similar length if the non-project entries were removed as previously proposed. It not about length. Its about confusion level. 40 links on the left, 40 on the

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-10 Thread Donald Whytock
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, for you. Not me. I believe people coming from outside are confused by this navigation too. Of course I cannot prove it, but all the website I like have easier navigation. So what's the use case for the RHS

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-09 Thread sebb
On 8 October 2011 08:49, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:25 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October 2011 02:08, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October 2011 00:47, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Updated to use new format and committed.

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I've not started looking at generating projects/index.xml yet. Reading the past mails shows me you are +1 to commit the layout changes. You are already working on the next steps :-) I'm not keen on losing the RH podling list, if that's what you mean; I think it's useful. You was the only

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-09 Thread sebb
On 9 October 2011 13:50, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: I've not started looking at generating projects/index.xml yet. Reading the past mails shows me you are +1 to commit the layout changes. You are already working on the next steps :-) I'm not keen on losing the RH podling

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-09 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 01:14:39AM +0100, sebb wrote: Although JSON is simpler, it does not allow comments AFAIK, which I think rules it out as a suitable original source file. For the record: indeed, JSON as spec'd in RFC 4627 does not allow comments. Some parser implementations support

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-09 Thread David Crossley
sebb wrote: Christian Grobmeier wrote: I've not started looking at generating projects/index.xml yet. Reading the past mails shows me you are +1 to commit the layout changes. You are already working on the next steps :-) I'm not keen on losing the RH podling list, if that's what you

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-09 Thread sebb
On 10 October 2011 02:02, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: sebb wrote: Christian Grobmeier wrote: I've not started looking at generating projects/index.xml yet. Reading the past mails shows me you are +1 to commit the layout changes. You are already working on the next steps

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-09 Thread David Crossley
sebb wrote: David Crossley wrote: sebb wrote: Christian Grobmeier wrote: I have added my layout changes too (website not updated). We need to find a consens on the rh table. I am still not a fan of this, it simply ugly. We have spoken on this thread about generating some kind

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:25 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October 2011 02:08, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October 2011 00:47, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Updated to use new format and committed. Output is to project-menu.tmp file currently; edit build.xml

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies.  Forgot the status field. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Okay...attached is a very simple podlings.xml, made from the contents of the podlings page. I itemized

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread sebb
On 7 October 2011 10:03, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies.  Forgot the status field. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Okay...attached is a very simple

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread sebb
On 7 October 2011 22:10, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 October 2011 10:03, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies.  Forgot the status field. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Donald Whytock

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread sebb
On 7 October 2011 22:23, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 October 2011 22:10, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 October 2011 10:03, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies.  Forgot the status field. On

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread Donald Whytock
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:10 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: However I think it would make sense to sort the entries by podling name, rather than by name within status. Otherwise it will be a pain when the status changes. Also, rather than use a website tag, I think it would be better to use

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread sebb
On 7 October 2011 23:09, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:10 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: However I think it would make sense to sort the entries by podling name, rather than by name within status. Otherwise it will be a pain when the status changes.

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread Donald Whytock
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:48 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: I'm now thinking it might be better to convert some of the tags to attributes, for example:    podling name=Accumulo resource=accumulo status=current These are all relatively short fields and I think it would make the file shorter

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread sebb
On 8 October 2011 00:47, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:48 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: I'm now thinking it might be better to convert some of the tags to attributes, for example:    podling name=Accumulo resource=accumulo status=current These are all

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread Donald Whytock
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:08 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: It would be easier to edit and navigate if the attributes were all on the same line as the podling tag Yeah, that's the plan. I was just listing what attributes would be there. I format the final file using XPontus. I forgot

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread sebb
On 8 October 2011 02:17, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:08 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: It would be easier to edit and navigate if the attributes were all on the same line as the podling tag Yeah, that's the plan.  I was just listing what attributes

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread sebb
On 8 October 2011 02:08, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October 2011 00:47, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:48 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: I'm now thinking it might be better to convert some of the tags to attributes, for example:    podling

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-07 Thread David Crossley
Donald Whytock wrote: sebb wrote: There ought to be a tapestry.html file locally; may need to generate a dummy one if the original cannot be recovered (or never existed). Weird...there IS a Tapestry page: http://tapestry.apache.org The URL on the podling page is just wrong. Latest

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-06 Thread sebb
On 5 October 2011 20:06, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: What about storing the podling names in a table somewhere and using a Javascript fragment to read the table and populate the right-column list?  Pages that include the script therefore don't have to be updated at all when the

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:46 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 October 2011 20:06, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: What about storing the podling names in a table somewhere and using a Javascript fragment to read the table and populate the right-column list?  Pages that include

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-06 Thread Donald Whytock
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:46 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: The registry would contain all podling names (current and previous) together with state (active, dormant, graduated, retired) and other basic information. This would be used to generate the podling summary page(s) as well. Would

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-06 Thread sebb
On 6 October 2011 22:03, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:46 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: The registry would contain all podling names (current and previous) together with state (active, dormant, graduated, retired) and other basic information. This would

[DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, currently we use a three column model. On the right side is the search box, links to thanks page and all the projects listed. Everytime we add a new podling all podling pages need to be updated too. I we should remove the third (right) column, because: - the thanks page is already linked on

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-05 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Christian! your proposal makes IMHO incubator page more clear and let eyes breathing while reading the page :) Just my 0.02 cents, all the best! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-05 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 10/5/2011 7:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: ... Here is how it would look like: http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft/ http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft/projects/index.html http://code.grobmeier.de/incubator-draft/projects/ognl.html Please let me know what you think about this

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-05 Thread sebb
On 5 October 2011 12:12, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, currently we use a three column model. On the right side is the search box, links to thanks page and all the projects listed. Everytime we add a new podling all podling pages need to be updated too. I we should

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
The RH column is relatively narrow, so does not compress the main column too much. Cannot agree here Indeed without it, the main column is too wide on my screen, making it more difficult to read, as the end of the line is so far from the beginning of the next. I plan to work more on the

Re: [DISCUSS] Layout change - remove the right table

2011-10-05 Thread Donald Whytock
What about storing the podling names in a table somewhere and using a Javascript fragment to read the table and populate the right-column list? Pages that include the script therefore don't have to be updated at all when the podling list changes. Don