Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-17 Thread David M Woollard
Sorry if I'm late to the party, but my 2 cents... The more I read about this, the more I latch onto Justin's Observers notion. As a non-Apache Member, non-IPMC, PPMC member for OODT, I feel like I am qualified to vote on a release in the sense that I am closer to the code than Justin (sorry to

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
Unlike the observer role. It's very close to the current signing off of board reports by mentors but forces them to do a little more than put there name to a piece of electronic paper. Personally I imagined my binding vote, as a mentor, to indicate a) the project debs want this tongi ahead

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
Sorry damned iPhone autocorrect. First word should be I like Sent from my mobile device. On 17 Aug 2010, at 09:38, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: Unlike the observer role. It's very close to the current signing off of board reports by mentors but forces them to do a little more than

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-17 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
LOL know problem Ross ;) On 8/17/10 1:46 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: Sorry damned iPhone autocorrect. First word should be I like Sent from my mobile device. On 17 Aug 2010, at 09:38, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: Unlike the observer role. It's very close to the

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
[ CCing gene...@incubator as I think I can now place my finger a bit as to why I'm discomforted with Greg's proposal in the OODT context ; and more importantly, another potential experiment at the end; leaving context in for those on gene...@incubator ] On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Mattmann,

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-16 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hey Justin, Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply. My comments below: See, here's where I get a bit discomforted by this entire process: I honestly don't feel that I deserve a vote on OODT releases. I've known you and Dave for long enough that I have no concerns advising the OODT

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 01:08, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hey Justin, Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply. My comments below: See, here's where I get a bit discomforted by this entire process: I honestly don't feel that I deserve a vote on OODT

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: So basically you are moving more towards Joe's proposal, that the PPMC would have the binding VOTEs in e.g., new committers/PMC members, and on releases? Of course, with the caveats below, as you

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: You know when to vote and *how* to vote. I see no reason to deny your vote. Of course. It's always seemed awkward if you can't contribute technically to suddenly have a binding vote. I'm sure if I *wanted* to learn how to