Re: [DISCUSS] Omid and Tephra - Graduation (or Retirement?)

2019-11-25 Thread Josh Elser
I really don't care one way or the other for the terminology we use and, as VP Phoenix, am happy to use whatever terminology is deemed "most correct". If anything, I like Justin's use of "exited" to not attach feelings to how a podling leaves the incubator. I think attaching "good" and "bad"

Re: [DISCUSS] Omid and Tephra - Graduation (or Retirement?)

2019-11-21 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I think I would call a project that exited the incubator, but still at the ASF with a community around it and PMC oversight. a success. It didn’t graduate as a TLP, and nor was it sponsored by the project it ended up it just took a different path. Thanks, Justin ---

Re: [DISCUSS] Omid and Tephra - Graduation (or Retirement?)

2019-11-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
Ok my mistake about Solr. I thought it was a TLP. As to the second half of what I said still this doesn’t look like a failure to gain a community and stable management. Omid and Tephra code is now under Phoenix. The Phoenix TLP has a community and stable management. Just like Lucene has a comm

Re: [DISCUSS] Omid and Tephra - Graduation (or Retirement?)

2019-11-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > > Those aren’t comparable though, right? > > Solr was a sub project that graduated to a TLP. Solr is a sub project of Lucene. > > Omid and Tephra are projects that instead of becoming TLP’s “graduated” into > the

Re: [DISCUSS] Omid and Tephra - Graduation (or Retirement?)

2019-11-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
Those aren’t comparable though, right? Solr was a sub project that graduated to a TLP. Omid and Tephra are projects that instead of becoming TLP’s “graduated” into the existing Phoenix TLP. Not the same thing. And also I don’t believe this result is unsuccessful. Neither Omid or Tephra cod

Re: [DISCUSS] Omid and Tephra - Graduation (or Retirement?)

2019-11-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Justin, > On Nov 21, 2019, at 1:48 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > HI, > >> I’m going to change podlings.xml to reflect these as “graduated”. If after >> discussion we have consensus to change these to “retired” then the change is >> easy. > > To officially graduate that would need a board p

Re: [DISCUSS] Omid and Tephra - Graduation (or Retirement?)

2019-11-21 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > I’m going to change podlings.xml to reflect these as “graduated”. If after > discussion we have consensus to change these to “retired” then the change is > easy. To officially graduate that would need a board proposal would it not? Thanks, Justin -

[DISCUSS] Omid and Tephra - Graduation (or Retirement?)

2019-11-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - We are calling the movement of Omid and Tephra graduation to a project. To me this looks more like retirement where a podling moves on to a new place after failing to incubate. This distinction makes no difference to the podling. It does matter to the Incubator as we measure our success in