Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-15 Thread Sean Busbey
It sounds like we have consensus. Is there a minimum voting period? Any chance we could get this through in time for the NiFi proposal to make the Board meeting this week? On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On 14 June 2015 at 17:52, Joe Witt joe.w...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-15 Thread Andrew Purtell
72 hours is customary as minimum. That would miss the Board meeting this week. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Sean Busbey bus...@cloudera.com wrote: It sounds like we have consensus. Is there a minimum voting period? Any chance we could get this through in time for the NiFi proposal to make

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Witt
I was hoping to see how things settle out through the rest of the day and then kick off a vote tomorrow or Wednesday. We had hoped that if all goes well we'd be an option for the July meeting. So, no rush I think. Thanks Joe On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-14 Thread Joe Witt
Niclas, I agree that the scope could be improved. It is a tough balancing act of course. How would about this modification: WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project

RE: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-14 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
I'm +1, please feel free to carry my +1 through to the VOTE. Cheers, Chris From: jan i [j...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 10:04 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator thanks

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-14 Thread jan i
Hi Sorry for top posting, I do understand why the resolution is being changed, however it this really the correct place to do it. The community must be behind and agreeing to the resolution, so changes should in my opinion by discussed on your dev@ list. The IPMC should be presented with a

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-14 Thread jan i
On 14 June 2015 at 17:52, Joe Witt joe.w...@gmail.com wrote: The community agreed on what we posted originally. Just trying to be responsive to niclas concerns in the spirit of the discussion thread. I was not suggesting otherwise. I have forwarded the thread to our dev list which is where

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-14 Thread Joe Witt
Adjusted to clarify the 'realtime' reference which can be misleading: WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-14 Thread Joe Witt
The community agreed on what we posted originally. Just trying to be responsive to niclas concerns in the spirit of the discussion thread. I have forwarded the thread to our dev list which is where the adjustment to 'interactive' came from. Should these minor rephrasings give pause in the nifi

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-14 Thread Niclas Hedhman
It is less generic, but I think I am not in a position to determine what is suitable. The community + mentors should be a better group to discuss it. On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Joe Witt joe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Niclas, I agree that the scope could be improved. It is a tough balancing

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-13 Thread Niclas Hedhman
From the peanut gallery; Doesn't related to the automated and managed flow of information between systems apply to at least half of all software out there? In other words, the scope is very wide, and could include anything from SNMP to Apache Mesos and much much more. I think the Board will

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread jan i
On 12 June 2015 at 09:18, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, Although it's not a strict requirement, the board likes to have at least one ASF member in the new project's PMC. Unless I missed someone I don't think that's the case in proposed PMC members list. It looks

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Sergio, On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Sergio Fernández wik...@apache.org wrote: ...I could jump in case is considered necessary. Unfortunately I can't promise that much in terms of code contribution... It's fine IMO to have 1-2 ASF members on the PMC even if they're not very active in

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, Although it's not a strict requirement, the board likes to have at least one ASF member in the new project's PMC. Unless I missed someone I don't think that's the case in proposed PMC members list. It looks like none of the proposed PMC members are committers in other projects, which makes

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread Sergio Fernández
Hi Bertrand, On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: The best way to fix this is for one or two of your mentors who are ASF members to stay on the new PMC, are any of them interested? Initially I was thinking to step off on graduation. But I could

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:00 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: ...one reason to be in incubator is to learn the apache way and that seems hard to learn without other apache people on the project... Not sure what you mean - the Nifi mentors have voted to graduate it, which indicates that they

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread Benson Margulies
Writing as a member and a mentor, I think that the NiFi podling will do fine without the 'usual' ASF member that Bertrand is asking about. However, because I think they'll do fine, I'll sign up if it makes people more comfy, secure in my belief that I will be a maytag repairman. On Fri, Jun 12,

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread Sean Busbey
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:00 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: ...one reason to be in incubator is to learn the apache way and that seems hard to learn without other apache people on the project... Not

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread Joe Witt
Hello it would be nice to see a bit of statistics like number of releases in incubator, growth in incubator… Mailing lists: The dev mailing list has 123 legit addresses on it and is quite active for discussion, votes, feature ideas, etc.. We’ve just recently created a user list as requested

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread Sean Busbey
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Sean Busbey bus...@cloudera.com wrote: ...I have no reason to believe either my engagement or the PPMC's willingness to reach out to or listen to what I have to say will

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread jan i
thanks for the responses I will cast a +1 at vote time. sorry for asking the questions, but I was insecure. rgds jan i On Friday, June 12, 2015, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Sean sure makes more sense than me. On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Joe Witt joe.w...@gmail.com

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Sean Busbey bus...@cloudera.com wrote: ...I have no reason to believe either my engagement or the PPMC's willingness to reach out to or listen to what I have to say will change upon graduation, so I don't think they need a checkbox ASF member on the initial PMC