On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not a fan of chats and not even sending chat protocols to the dev
list. Sending a completed chat protocol is just announcing the result
of a discussion with only a few partners. Its very difficult to step
up
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Urs Lerch m...@ulerch.net wrote:
...since ALOIS should
become a community project, I still think the followers of it should
decide which communication channell they prefer. (By the way, I myself
sure am no fan of chats.)...
See also our comments in the
...since ALOIS should
become a community project, I still think the followers of it should
decide which communication channell they prefer. (By the way, I myself
sure am no fan of chats.)...
The if it didn't happen on the dev list, it didn't happen rule is
not negociable, although
I still don't see how that gets around the perception, and the
reality, that development is being done outside the list.
So I don't see that proposal as helping out at all...
On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Scott Deboy wrote:
I understand the concern raised by the use of real-time communication
Hi
To cut a long story short: ALOIS is _not_ about a chat channel, it's a
tool for security incident and event management. Since the chat channell
in the required resources list was only a wish, I gladly dropped it off
the proposal.
Best
Urs
Am Freitag, den 17.09.2010, 07:32 -0400 schrieb Jim
On 9/17/2010 9:41 AM, Urs Lerch wrote:
To cut a long story short: ALOIS is _not_ about a chat channel, it's a
tool for security incident and event management. Since the chat channell
in the required resources list was only a wish, I gladly dropped it off
the proposal.
Hi Urs,
While I
+1. It's hypocrisy to tell podlings that chat is entirely intolerable
when plenty of running projects have them.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Glen Daniels g...@thoughtcraft.com wrote:
On 9/17/2010 9:41 AM, Urs Lerch wrote:
To cut a long story short: ALOIS is _not_ about a chat channel, it's
Hi Glen
Thanks for your input and a different view. I took the chat channell off
the proposal, because I don't want that the project to be assessed on
this single point. If a chat is useful for the followers, why not, as
long as it is transparent and decisions are not made that way.
Best
Urs
On 09/17/2010 08:20 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
+1. It's hypocrisy to tell podlings that chat is entirely intolerable
when plenty of running projects have them.
+1 indeed. If not, ATS is in big trouble :). We have a very active
community in the IRC room, where we brainstorm and help each
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Leif Hedstrom zw...@apache.org wrote:
On 09/17/2010 08:20 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
+1. It's hypocrisy to tell podlings that chat is entirely intolerable
when plenty of running projects have them.
+1 indeed. If not, ATS is in big trouble :). We have a very
On 9/17/2010 11:27 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Leif Hedstrom zw...@apache.org wrote:
+1 indeed. If not, ATS is in big trouble :). We have a very active community
in the IRC room, where we brainstorm and help each other out all the time
I don't think
All,
this vote will fail in three hours because nobody responds to it. Are
there any objections against this proposal? Or why is this vote
ignored?
Best regards,
Christian
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Urs Lerch m...@ulerch.net wrote:
Hi everybody out there
The vote for ALOIS ends in
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
...this vote will fail in three hours because nobody responds to it. Are
there any objections against this proposal? Or why is this vote
ignored?...
72 hours is a minimum, not a maximum, so no real problem.
I'll
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
All,
this vote will fail in three hours because nobody responds to it. Are
there any objections against this proposal? Or why is this vote
ignored?
Hi Christian,
I ignored it because it was odd to me that there's
+1
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote:
All,
this vote will fail in three hours because nobody responds to it. Are
there any objections against this proposal? Or why is this vote
ignored?
Best regards,
Christian
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:06
Hi Tim
Thanks for your interest and thanks to Christian for his effort.
So far the project and therefore the code had only be used in two
organizations. Therefore, the project is like closed, although licenced
under the GPL. There is really almost no usable documentation (at least
in English,
I think it is often a sign of I don't care either way, when no one
responds. At least this is my take on projects; If I don't care, I
won't stop others from embracing, and silently say nothing.
Cheers
Niclas
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
All,
Hi Urs,
My only concern is the request to have a chat channel. There's wide
use of chat channels in Apache (the periodic board and members'
meetings make use of them, and infrastructure uses channels to
advantage).
But for an incubating project, I'd strongly discourage use of chat as
a
I understand the concern raised by the use of real-time communication for
Apache projects - that decisions may be made off-list, and that folks who
aren't a party to the real-time communication do not have the opportunity to
benefit from or impact the decisions that result from the real-time
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote:
...I'm interested in what others think of their proposal for supporting
real-time communication, and curious what others are doing, if anything, to
support the growing interest in real-time communication between project
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 21:32 +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Scott Deboy scott.de...@gmail.com wrote:
...I'm interested in what others think of their proposal for supporting
real-time communication, and curious what others are doing, if anything, to
Hi Craig
Thanks for you input and your vote.
In my view, the chat is not a must, but a proposition. I understand your
concern and I certainly will keep it in mind. But since ALOIS should
become a community project, I still think the followers of it should
decide which communication channell they
[X] +1, bring ALOIS into Incubator
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Urs Lerch m...@ulerch.net wrote:
Hi
Since the first call a few weeks ago didn't suceed (more mentors were
asked), I would like to call a second vote for accepting the security
information and event management tool ALOIS for
[X] +1, bring ALOIS into Incubator
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote:
[X] +1, bring ALOIS into Incubator
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Urs Lerch m...@ulerch.net wrote:
Hi
Since the first call a few weeks ago didn't suceed (more mentors
I might be missing it, but is there a link to the existing GPL project/code?
Thanks
--tim
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Urs Lerch m...@ulerch.net wrote:
Hi
Since the first call a few weeks ago didn't suceed (more mentors were
asked), I would like to call a second vote for accepting the
Hi Tim
Unfortunately, so far there is no link to the existing code. Until now
the software has been used only in two organizations. Be asured that we
are aware that we have to do a lot of basic work to release the code to
the community. Nontheless, if you are interested I can send you the code
as
Hi
Since the first call a few weeks ago didn't suceed (more mentors were
asked), I would like to call a second vote for accepting the security
information and event management tool ALOIS for incubation in the
Apache Incubator. Thanks Christian Grobmeier we now have two mentors at
least. But any
+1 (Not binding)
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Urs Lerch m...@ulerch.net wrote:
Hi
Since the first call a few weeks ago didn't suceed (more mentors were
asked), I would like to call a second vote for accepting the security
information and event management tool ALOIS for incubation in the
as soon as you come up with 2 more mentors, you have my +1.
Bernd
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 18:09, Urs Lerch m...@ulerch.net wrote:
Hi,
I would like to call a vote for accepting ALOIS for incubation in
the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available below and on the
proposal wiki page
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Bernd Fondermann
bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote:
as soon as you come up with 2 more mentors, you have my +1.
Same here, one mentor is not enough.
People get busy on other stuff, go on vacation, etc.
-Bertrand
Good point! I agree with you that three mentors would be perfect. Since
I've seen other votes that have reported more volunteers as mentors, I
had the hope that it happens here, too. I did already ask other persons
for support, but didn't succeed yet. Do you have any advice how to be
more
Hi,
I would like to call a vote for accepting ALOIS for incubation in
the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available below and on the
proposal wiki page (http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AloisProposal). We
ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor it, with Scott Deboy volunteering as
Champion and
I don't see anything explicit in here about relicensing from GPL to
ASL. Perhaps that was hashed out before I joined the PMC?
I'm +0 tending toward -1 without an explicit statement that the
copyright owners are known and on board with the license change.
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Urs
Hi
There is, at least in my opinion, a very clear statement regarding the
licencing:
= Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan =
ALOIS is currently under a GPL licence. Since there are only two
contributors so far, both from the same company, there is no problem
to re-licence
OK, I read the syntax of this sideways.
+1, binding, from me.
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Urs Lerch m...@ulerch.net wrote:
Hi
There is, at least in my opinion, a very clear statement regarding the
licencing:
= Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan =
ALOIS is currently
+1 notbinding
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
OK, I read the syntax of this sideways.
+1, binding, from me.
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Urs Lerch m...@ulerch.net wrote:
Hi
There is, at least in my opinion, a very clear statement
+1
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote:
+1 notbinding
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
OK, I read the syntax of this sideways.
+1, binding, from me.
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Urs
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