Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-11-02 Thread 申远
Hi, Dave and Justin. Thanks to both of you, I‘m really appreciated your help. Just have a nice conversation with Dave, I think Weex still needs to be in the Incubator for some time. I replied earlier in the thread, but the response from Weex really should > be to complete a Podling Name Search

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-31 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi YorkShen, > On Nov 1, 2019, at 10:33 AM, 申远 wrote: > > Hi, Justin. > > After serious thinking these days, I decided to withindraw the graduation > vote. We need spend more time in Incubator, this graduation vote is a > little hurry. > > I admitted your concerns about diverse and

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-31 Thread 申远
Hi, Justin. After serious thinking these days, I decided to withindraw the graduation vote. We need spend more time in Incubator, this graduation vote is a little hurry. I admitted your concerns about diverse and independent community have some points, Weex still needs to impove in this apsect.

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-30 Thread ซ่อยค่อย ลืมเขาแน่
เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2019 7:52 PM "申远" เขียนว่า > FYI: If the initial committers really matter, maybe we could ask secretary > to help us find out how many individuals signed the ICLA when Weex entered > the Incubator. > > Best Regards, > YorkShen > > 申远 > > > ซ่อยค่อย ลืมเขาแน่

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-30 Thread 申远
FYI: If the initial committers really matter, maybe we could ask secretary to help us find out how many individuals signed the ICLA when Weex entered the Incubator. Best Regards, YorkShen 申远 ซ่อยค่อย ลืมเขาแน่ <0989132858...@gmail.com> 于2019年10月30日周三 下午8:35写道: > เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2019 7:16 PM

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-30 Thread ซ่อยค่อย ลืมเขาแน่
เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2019 7:16 PM "申远" เขียนว่า > > > > The PPMC needs to protect their brand in particular from their own > company. > > > Agree with that, and this is exactly why I am persuading project like > Weex-UI [1] donated to ASF instead of making them changing their name to > "XXX powered by

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-30 Thread 申远
> > The PPMC needs to protect their brand in particular from their own company. Agree with that, and this is exactly why I am persuading project like Weex-UI [1] donated to ASF instead of making them changing their name to "XXX powered by Apache Weex" and then pretend there is no problem.

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-30 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, It seems like there are two concerns around Weex, branding and independent > community. > I'd still like to hear what your mentors think. Are they active? For branding part, I understand this is a serious issue, and it takes me > months to solve this kinds of issues > This needs to be the

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-30 Thread 申远
It seems like there are two concerns around Weex, branding and independent community. For branding part, I understand this is a serious issue, and it takes me months to solve this kinds of issues, like donating weex-loader[1], weex-cli [2] to ASF, upgrading POM meta [3], changing package name

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-29 Thread ซ่อยค่อย ลืมเขาแน่
เมื่อ 28 ต.ค. 2019 2:42 PM "Justin Mclean" เขียนว่า > Hi, > > > How can third party web sites be a "branding/trademark issue" for an > > Apache project? > > (P)PMC members are responsible for the project brands and that includes > making sure that 3rd parties use that brands and trademarks

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-29 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, If the project can show they are acting independently of a single company that would help them convince the board/IPMC they can graduate. What has the project done to attract developers out side of that company to work on the project? Are there any barriers that hinders outside

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-28 Thread Willem Jiang
Hi Justin, Thanks for pointing out these issues. Weex has spent lot of time on the release kit part during the incubation, but they also need to work on growing a health community. I will work with the Weex PPMC to figure out the solution of the issues by filling the project maturity model. For

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-28 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, While optional, and not a requirement for graduation, has the project considered filling out the ASF maturity model? https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html Thanks, Justin - To

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-28 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Sorry perhaps I’m not being clear, let me try again. The initial proposal contained 13 people (not 5). [1] The PMC currently consists of 14 people. All 13 of the initial committers/PPMC members work for the same company. One PMC member has been added a year ago [2], they seem to work for

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-28 Thread 申远
> > 1. I’m a little confused the email says " 11 PPMC members, 8 committers”, > 11+8 == 19 where have the extras come from? (3 mentors?) Yes, three of them are mentors. 2. You also didn’t answer how many PMC members you have added during > incubation. According to the whimsy page of Weex,

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-28 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I also notice 2 of your PPMC are not signed up to your price list is it > expected that these be on the initial list of PMC members? Thanks autocorrect :-) I meant to say “are not signed up to your private list”. Thanks, Justin

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-28 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > According to whismy page of Weex, there are 23 committer(including PPMC > member) of Weex. I’m a little confused the email says " 11 PPMC members, 8 committers”, 11+8 == 19 where have the extras come from? (3 mentors?) You also didn’t answer how many PMC members you have added during

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-28 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > How can third party web sites be a "branding/trademark issue" for an > Apache project? (P)PMC members are responsible for the project brands and that includes making sure that 3rd parties use that brands and trademarks correctly. I suggest you read

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-27 Thread 申远
> > How many PMC members and committer have been added since starting > graduation? > According to whismy page of Weex, there are 23 committer(including PPMC member) of Weex. Considering the fact that there are around 200 contributors, 10% of them are committers, I think this is a normal

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-27 Thread Jan Piotrowski
> A quick search showed that there is also some branding/trademark issues with > these pages: > [...] How can third party web sites be a "branding/trademark issue" for an Apache project? Am Fr., 25. Okt. 2019 um 19:16 Uhr schrieb Justin Mclean : > > Hi, > > > - There are 11 PPMC members, 8

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-25 Thread justin
Hi, > How many PMC members and committer have been added since starting graduation? Sorry since starting incubation I meant to say. I can see you had some committers but no PPMC members? Thanks, Justin

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-25 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > - There are 11 PPMC members, 8 committers (excluding PPMC members) [2], > and 192 Github contributors [3] How many PMC members and committer have been added since starting graduation? Having 200 odd contributors and only 8 committers seems like it could be an issue to me. Name wise

Re: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-25 Thread Dave Fisher
> [1] > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote > > Best Regards, > YorkShen > > 申远 > > > -- Forwarded message - > 发件人: YorkShen > Date: 2019年10月25日周五 下午4:45 > Subject: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubati

Fwd: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project

2019-10-25 Thread YorkShen
Date: 2019年10月25日周五 下午4:45 Subject: [VOTE] Graudate Apache Weex (Incubating) as a Top Level Project To: dev Dear all, Apache Weex entered the Incubator on Nov, 2016. Since that, the community has moved to ASF infratructure, grown, diversed and learned a lot about Apache Way. Some of our