Hi,
Oh dear, it looks like HTTP [1] isn’t in compliance either.
"Membership can be revoked by a unanimous vote of all the active PMC members
other than the member in question.”
And this is probably where the 6 months term come from, that pops up everywhere
re inactive PMC members.
"A PMC mem
On 03/09/18 05:53, P. Taylor Goetz wrote:
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>> On Sep 3, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
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>> Personally, I'd prefer that the concept of project bylaws disappear. Move
>> to "community guides". A *guide* rather than a *ruleset*. The Board has
>> kinda gone quiet on the discussion, but ho
Hi,
> Yet conceptually, those are the "default project bylaws" should a PMC not
> decide to write up something else.
Yep and that’s why while podling sometime gets little lost or just copy and
paste others thinking they are correct.
The same happens with LICENSE/NOTICE files so we probably shou
> On Sep 3, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
> Personally, I'd prefer that the concept of project bylaws disappear. Move
> to "community guides". A *guide* rather than a *ruleset*. The Board has
> kinda gone quiet on the discussion, but hopefully it will pick it back up,
> to provide som
hehe.. and I agree with both of you :-)
But when the concept of "foundation-level project bylaws" came up, that is
where they are. Not labeled as such, not explained well, etc. Agreed. Yet
conceptually, those are the "default project bylaws" should a PMC not
decide to write up something else.
We'
Hi -
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> On Sep 2, 2018, at 3:29 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote:
>
> Aren’t the foundation-level bylaws about how the ASF operates as a non-profit
> business?
>
> I may be missing something, but ASF bylaws don’t address project management,
> ASF policy does.
The trouble is that
Greg,
I agree with Justin.
I know from experience what the “defaults” are, but to a newcomer, it’s likely
anything but clear. The project-specific ones you reference make no reference
to being bylaws, hence my description of them as “policy.”
If we could clearly delineate between Foundation By
Board@ is the private list while general@incubator is public.
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> On Sep 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
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> Apologies. Did not know general@ was a private list.
>
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018, 14:29 Dave Fisher wrote:
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>> Note the cross-posting between public and
Apologies. Did not know general@ was a private list.
On Sun, Sep 2, 2018, 14:29 Dave Fisher wrote:
> Note the cross-posting between public and private mailing lists.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Kevin A. McGrail
> wrote:
> >
> > Good point, Dave. +board as this w
Hi,
> There are two types of "bylaws" at the Foundation level. The official ones
> you're referring to, and the project ones under dev/ (the "how it works"
> stuff).
And the issue with the later is not 100% clear what they are, and while they
are mostly documented in various places and reasonabl
On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 5:30 PM P. Taylor Goetz wrote:
> Aren’t the foundation-level bylaws about how the ASF operates as a
> non-profit business?
>
There are two types of "bylaws" at the Foundation level. The official ones
you're referring to, and the project ones under dev/ (the "how it works"
Aren’t the foundation-level bylaws about how the ASF operates as a non-profit
business?
I may be missing something, but ASF bylaws don’t address project management,
ASF policy does.
-Taylor
> On Sep 2, 2018, at 5:25 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
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> -private list for now.
>
>
> I disagree with
John,
The clause as written right now doesn't speak to the ASF level bylaws.
It gives the PMC the specific tasking to create bylaws. If not
removed the language should probably change to not encourage creation
of new bylaws but rather understand the implicit adoption of the ASF
level bylaws.
Tha
-private list for now.
I disagree with removing the bylaws clause. It's assumed your going to use
the ASF level bylaws if you don't have another one.
On Sun, Sep 2, 2018, 14:29 Dave Fisher wrote:
> Note the cross-posting between public and private mailing lists.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> >
Note the cross-posting between public and private mailing lists.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
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> Good point, Dave. +board as this was an issue with emeritus pmc and
> project bylaws
>
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018, 12:37 Dave Fisher wrote:
>>
>> Hi -
Good point, Dave. +board as this was an issue with emeritus pmc and
project bylaws
On Sun, Sep 2, 2018, 12:37 Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi -
>
> Pulsar is currently discussing a graduation proposal and Taylor noticed
> the following that came out of the whimsy boilerplate.
>
> Quick question:
>
> RE
Hi -
Pulsar is currently discussing a graduation proposal and Taylor noticed the
following that came out of the whimsy boilerplate.
> Quick question:
>
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Pulsar PMC be and hereby is tasked
>> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
>> d
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