Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-24 Thread Filip at Apache
Brian McCallister wrote: On Sep 17, 2007, at 5:57 AM, David L Kaminsky wrote: Tomcat - We're open to suggestions regarding the order in which we add bindings to APIs, and doing such bindings isn't terribly hard. If Tomcat is particularly critical as an early demonstration, we

Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-23 Thread Brian McCallister
On Sep 17, 2007, at 5:57 AM, David L Kaminsky wrote: Tomcat - We're open to suggestions regarding the order in which we add bindings to APIs, and doing such bindings isn't terribly hard. If Tomcat is particularly critical as an early demonstration, we can add that to the

Re: [Fwd: Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL]

2007-09-20 Thread David L Kaminsky
Subject:Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL Date:Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:36:03 -0400 From:Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:general@incubator.apache.org To:general@incubator.apache.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] References:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, Over

Re: [Fwd: Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL]

2007-09-20 Thread Alex Karasulu
, Perl, FORTRAN, etc. -- people choose the language that best suits a particular need. I don't think we'll need quite the same breadth of policy languages, but I also don't think we'll get down to one. David Original Message Subject:Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-18 Thread Filip at Apache
Noel J. Bergman wrote: We proposed to develop a policy-based management infrastructure that automates administrative tasks by executing policies Sounds good. I will be curious to see the reaction from the HTTP Server folks, but this sort of thing is very much needed in real-world

Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-18 Thread Alex Karasulu
Hi all, Over at Directory we have an initial attempt at an identity solution in place called Triplesec. It does the usual AAA with some additional things like mobile keyfobs however it's authorization policy management features might benefit from this project or there may be some overlap. Here's

Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-17 Thread David L Kaminsky
Thanks for the quick response on the SPL proposal. I've tried to gather the questions and respond to them in one e-mail. Please me know if I missed anything. David Naming - Seems like the consensus is that SPL isn't a good name. We'll find another. (Not sure I could get IBM

Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-17 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi David, Thanks for the clarifications. On Sep 17, 2007, at 5:57 AM, David L Kaminsky wrote: On the standard itself, not surprisingly, the DMTF encourages implementations, and at submission, the DMTF requires this text: Permission to copy, display, perform, modify and distribute the

Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-17 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Mark, Thanks for that. I also found other documents on the site [1] to be relevant, in particular the cover page of [2]. I have no further issues with the IP aspect of this proposal, and suggest that references to [1] and [2] and [3] be included in the updated proposal to head off

Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-17 Thread David L Kaminsky
Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-17 Thread Mark A. Carlson
The DMTF patent policy is here: http://www.dmtf.org/about/policies/patent-10-18-01.pdf The DMTF does not have any IP in any of its specs and unless DMTF is explicitly notified of such, neither do any of the members. -- mark Craig L Russell wrote: Hi David, Thanks for the clarifications. On

Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-14 Thread David L Kaminsky
All, Developers at IBM and Sun, with assistance from Bill Stoddard, have developed the proposal appended below. We ask that the ASF consider forming an incubator according to the proposal. As this is our first incubator request, we would appreciate any suggestions, and we're happy to answer

Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-14 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, A few comments on this proposal. On Sep 14, 2007, at 11:11 AM, David L Kaminsky wrote: The design of SPL, a Preliminary DMTF standard, is inspired by existing policy languages and models including PDL (policy definition language) from Bell Laboratories, the Ponder policy language from

RE: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
We proposed to develop a policy-based management infrastructure that automates administrative tasks by executing policies Sounds good. I will be curious to see the reaction from the HTTP Server folks, but this sort of thing is very much needed in real-world deployments of app servers. The

Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-14 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Saturday 15 September 2007 02:11, David L Kaminsky wrote: Simplified Policy Language (SPL), a standards-based policy language. Incubator has been discouraging naming projects after domains or standards. Once you come with a suitable name, you'll have my +1 for Incubation. Cheers -- Niclas