Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-07 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: , Chris Mattmann Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Monday, August 25, 2014 3:59 PM To: "" Subject: Re: Mentor

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-05 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:05 AM, wrote: > Surely we are not going to start counting signing off on a report as > indicative of good/bad mentoring? Not. But what I'm going to start with is this: reflect on the Incubator Wiki is the statistics on poddlings who receive NO mentor sign-off at all.

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-04 Thread Ross Gardler
ail messages debating this message > and the follow on reply that I won't be sending, and any further messages > to yourself and others after that. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: "rgard...@opendirective.com" > Reply-To: "general@incubator

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-04 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Sure Tim I can do that one sec I'll make it an option Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2014, at 7:48 AM, "Tim Williams" wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Chris Mattmann wrote: >> Seriously, give me a break. >> >> This has been discussed ad naseum - It's a quick simple measure >> to

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-04 Thread Tim Williams
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Chris Mattmann wrote: > Seriously, give me a break. > > This has been discussed ad naseum - It's a quick simple measure > to see if one of the stated requirements for mentors (reading the > monthly report, and *signing that you read it*) has been fulfilled. The in

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
ge- From: "rgard...@opendirective.com" Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:05 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: RE: Mentors heartbeat >Surely we are not going to start counting signing off on a report as >

RE: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-04 Thread rgardler
my Windows Phone -Original Message- From: "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" Sent: ‎9/‎3/‎2014 10:25 PM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat These are the "signed off" per month mentors per podling over the last 3 years. So it measures how

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-03 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
0:11 PM To: Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat >Arguably, the number of mentored project doesn't reflect "the activity" >per >se. Unless I am missing something. > >Cos > >On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 04:46AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: >> Guys, +1 to eventually

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-09-03 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
+++ > Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++ > > > > > > > -Original Message- > Fr

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-25 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Try out my scripts - they take on that precise philosophy and try to make sense of what is already there Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2014, at 3:54 PM, "Dave Fisher" wrote: > > Hi - > > I've been too busy to do more than lurk occasionally. Consequently I am not > mentoring and not sheph

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-25 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I've been too busy to do more than lurk occasionally. Consequently I am not mentoring and not shepherding lately. I do want to add something to this debate. PMCs write their board reports to the board in whatever way they want. The Incubator is about teaching PPMCs how to become PMCs. We

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-25 Thread jan i
On 25 August 2014 19:26, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Justin Mclean > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Just want to point out that lack of activity may mean lack of issues > that need dealing with not that a mentor gone awol. > > Right. And that's why technical side of thing

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > Just want to point out that lack of activity may mean lack of issues that > need dealing with not that a mentor gone awol. Right. And that's why technical side of things (like YAMLizing report, etc.) is a prerequisite for enabling

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-25 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Just want to point out that lack of activity may mean lack of issues that need dealing with not that a mentor gone awol. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional comma

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
90089 USA ++ -Original Message- From: "Alan D. Cabrera" Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:54 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:07 PM, jan i wrote: > On 24 August 2014 19:54, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > >> >> On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera >> wrote: >> >> >>> I am not so sure if its worth while with the board report. >> > >> > What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Having

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread jan i
On 24 August 2014 19:54, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera > wrote: > > >>> I am not so sure if its worth while with the board report. > > > > What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Having the board > report in machine readable formats provides

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: >>> I am not so sure if its worth while with the board report. > > What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Having the board report in > machine readable formats provides the same advantages as that afforded > incubator reports.

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> I am a programmer and like formats like JSON, but it is true that the >> world does not only consist of programmers, so I suggest we make 2 webpages: >> - one page that create/modify the report and update svn with the JSON file >> - one pa

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-24 Thread Benson Margulies
Everyone who has ever mentored anything is a member of this PMC, except for those who have actually chosen to depart. In addition, we have PMC members who specialize in things like NOTICE files, but don't choose to mentor individual projects. In general, there is a mentor shortage. If you have a

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-23 Thread jan i
On 24 August 2014 02:07, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > This is pretty cool but I think it underscores the need to get off of free > form files that need to be scraped. > Its very interesting, when I started looking at incubator, my initial thought was "with that many IPMC members, there are no need f

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-23 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
This is pretty cool but I think it underscores the need to get off of free form files that need to be scraped. I think that maybe for future reports we can have a JSON file in svn that people can update. We could then have our report automatically generated from the JSON file for the board rep

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-23 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Sorry https://github.com/chrismattmann/apachestuff Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2014, at 3:22 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" > wrote: > > Check my apachestuff GitHub repo > https://guthub.com/chrismattmann/apachestuff > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 23, 2014, at 3:16 PM, "Roman Sha

Re: Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-23 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Check my apachestuff GitHub repo https://guthub.com/chrismattmann/apachestuff Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2014, at 3:16 PM, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: > > Hi! > > in my never ending quest to help boost the > graduation rate I've come across a few cases > where I had to reach out to projec

Mentors heartbeat

2014-08-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! in my never ending quest to help boost the graduation rate I've come across a few cases where I had to reach out to project mentors. Typically the initial list would be around 3 individuals, but the reply would only come from a single one. I believe we owe it to the projects to monitor whethe