Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:34 AM, sebb wrote: > On 29 November 2011 22:25, Jukka Zitting wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:30 PM, sebb wrote: >>> But if the team already agrees that the changes need to be made, why >>> not do so and re-roll? >> >> I'd just leave that up to the releas

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread sebb
On 29 November 2011 22:25, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:30 PM, sebb wrote: >> But if the team already agrees that the changes need to be made, why >> not do so and re-roll? > > I'd just leave that up to the release manager to decide. > > There's no such thing as a perf

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:30 PM, sebb wrote: > But if the team already agrees that the changes need to be made, why > not do so and re-roll? I'd just leave that up to the release manager to decide. There's no such thing as a perfect release (all non-trivial software has errors), so unless t

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:38 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 11/29/2011 11:30 AM, sebb wrote: >> >> On 29 November 2011 16:59, Robert Burrell Donkin >>  wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz >>>  wrote: >>> I agree that a non-minimal NOTICE might not warran

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Neha Narkhede
>> One "shortcut" that can be taken when a /single file/ must be changed (and as discussed on the list, that change already has consensus), would be to roll the next candidate on a shorter 24 approval clock, provided that everyone had full opportunity to review the candidate, and that rest of the p

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/29/2011 11:30 AM, sebb wrote: On 29 November 2011 16:59, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I agree that a non-minimal NOTICE might not warrant rejecting a podling release, but the next release should fix that. This is one of th

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread sebb
On 29 November 2011 16:59, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> On Monday, November 28, 2011, Alan D. Cabrera >> wrote: >> >> ... It is not a requirement that the NOTICE file be minimal. Let's worry >> about this for the 0.7.x or 0.8.0 re

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:52 PM, sebb wrote: > Are there any consequences for downstream users if the file is incorrect? To users no, to redistributors yes. Section 4 of ALv2 makes the "attribution notices contained within" the NOTICE file mandatory for any downstream distribution. Interpre

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:52 PM, sebb wrote: > Are there any consequences for downstream users if the file is incorrect? > > Are there any consequences for the ASF? Depends but potentially in some cases, yes. Robert - To unsub

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Monday, November 28, 2011, Alan D. Cabrera > wrote: > > ... It is not a requirement that the NOTICE file be minimal. Let's worry > about this for the 0.7.x or 0.8.0 release > > It think it *is* a requirement, according to > http:

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > I agree that a non-minimal NOTICE might not warrant rejecting a podling > release, but the next release should fix that. Agreed. For some background: Keeping the NOTICE file as lean as possible (given constraints from upstream li

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread sebb
On 29 November 2011 16:37, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Monday, November 28, 2011, Alan D. Cabrera > wrote: > > ... It is not a requirement that the NOTICE file be minimal. Let's worry > about this for the 0.7.x or 0.8.0 release > > It think it *is* a requirement, according to > http://apac

NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Monday, November 28, 2011, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: ... It is not a requirement that the NOTICE file be minimal. Let's worry about this for the 0.7.x or 0.8.0 release It think it *is* a requirement, according to http://apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice which specifically refers to *re