On 7/24/06, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course the bridge from async to servlets is the really difficult part!
(which is why we should do away with servlets *ducks*)
I'm ducking with you Leo! Doing away with servlets is fine by me. AsyncWeb
with MINA's underlying architecture
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 10:10:59AM -0400, peter royal wrote:
I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer
behind AsyncWeb, http://asyncweb.safehaus.org, an HTTP engine built
upon MINA http://directory.apache.org/subprojects/mina/, on
bringing the project to the
+1 to this (pre-)proposal.
Paul
On 7/18/06, Bill Stoddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On 7/15/06, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everyone else that has been working with Dave is already an ASF
committer with a CLA on file at the ASF:
Trustin Lee
Dan
+1 to this proposal. I've also added my name to the list at
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AsyncWebProposal
Regards
Azeez
On 7/12/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer
behind AsyncWeb, http://asyncweb.safehaus.org, an
+1.
Interesting project. I would really like to participate.
Saminda
On 7/19/06, Afkham Azeez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1 to this proposal. I've also added my name to the list at
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AsyncWebProposal
Regards
Azeez
On 7/12/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On 7/15/06, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everyone else that has been working with Dave is already an ASF
committer with a CLA on file at the ASF:
Trustin Lee
Dan Diephouse
Alex Karasulu
Yes let's get that software grant and a CLA from you Dave. Considering
Alex Karasulu wrote:
...
I'm fine with this option as well. Let's give it a try. Do the rest of
you guys agree with this approach?
...
I think moving asyncweb within a Mina TLP would be very healty for the
project.
One thing I would like to discuss though is identity
AsyncWeb
On Jul 17, 2006, at 5:31 AM, Dave Irving wrote:
One thing I would like to discuss though is identity
AsyncWeb currently has some form of identity in its own right as a
project
(and is already bundled as a standalone http transport in a couple
of OSS
projects). Is this likely to be
peter royal wrote:
I was thinking of a similar relationship to MINA and Directory..
AsyncWeb would *not* be renamed MINA HTTP.
Sounds good to me :o)
Dave
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On 7/17/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 17, 2006, at 5:31 AM, Dave Irving wrote:
One thing I would like to discuss though is identity
AsyncWeb currently has some form of identity in its own right as a
project
(and is already bundled as a standalone http transport in a
Trustin Lee wrote:
One possibility though could be that MINA HTTP codec provides only encoder
and decoder implementation for HTTP messages and AsyncWeb is built on top
of
it to provide more tighter integration with existing webapp frameworks and
more HTTP-friently asynchronous APIs. Yep,
On 7/17/06, Dave Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Trustin Lee wrote:
One possibility though could be that MINA HTTP codec provides only
encoder
and decoder implementation for HTTP messages and AsyncWeb is built on
top
of
it to provide more tighter integration with existing webapp
Trustin Lee wrote:
It makes total sense. I'd love to see everything becomes real, though we
need to draw a line between generalization and specialization when we
generalize AsyncWeb because MINA already has its role to provide a generic
network application framework.
Absolutely.
On Jul 15, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
Honestly, I'd recommend flipping it: get MINA to be TLP first and then
move in AsyncWeb. There's no reason that AsyncWeb should land in the
Directory TLP and then move again in short-order.
Good point.
If you submit the resolution ASAP,
On Jul 14, 2006, at 4:05 AM, Dave Irving wrote:
One thing which would be good to discuss still I think is location:
E.g, are
we proposing to bring AsyncWeb within Mina, or as a separate
incubating
project?
My thought was to bring within MINA, let it flourish, and then have
it leave MINA
On 7/16/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
k, what's the deadline for adding to the meeting agenda?
Having it sent tonight to board@ for inclusion would be best. Any
later than first thing tomorrow morning is liable to get it tabled
until August.
The working-copy of the draft is at:
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On 7/14/06, Dave Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We probably need to check up on that one. The project was released to
Safehaus way back in Feb, and has been developed there since. However, I
developed the original source code at my place of work, so I guess I may
need
On 7/15/06, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everyone else that has been working with Dave is already an ASF
committer with a CLA on file at the ASF:
Trustin Lee
Dan Diephouse
Alex Karasulu
Yes let's get that software grant and a CLA from you Dave. Considering
the constituents of the
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On 7/15/06, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everyone else that has been working with Dave is already an ASF
committer with a CLA on file at the ASF:
Trustin Lee
Dan Diephouse
Alex Karasulu
Yes let's get that software grant and a CLA from you Dave. Considering
peter royal wrote:
dave, do you hold full copyright to put you in a position to make a
grant?
We probably need to check up on that one. The project was released to
Safehaus way back in Feb, and has been developed there since. However, I
developed the original source code at my place of
On 7/14/06, Dave Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We probably need to check up on that one. The project was released to
Safehaus way back in Feb, and has been developed there since. However, I
developed the original source code at my place of work, so I guess I may
need a clearence form or
On 7/12/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And, yes, we've been talking for a while about splitting it out. Efforts
started up recently to put a proposal before the Board.
I look forward to seeing that proposal then. =) -- justin
Hi all,
As users of AsyncWeb in our Restlet project (http://www.restlet.org), we
are interested in seeing it join the ASF and consolidating its efforts
with both MINA and HttpComponents NIO.
We have a Restlet API that we are planning to submit to the JCP next
year and that is a RESTful
On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On 7/12/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer
behind AsyncWeb, http://asyncweb.safehaus.org, an HTTP engine built
upon MINA
Jim Jagielski wrote:
MINA is expected to propose a move to TLP soon... MINA
started off as a framework for ApacheDS and has grown into
its own very cool codebase.
I'd like to help here as well.
If that happens, I'm willing to help as well.
Although I'm not a huge fun of NIO in Servlet
Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On 7/12/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer
behind AsyncWeb, http://asyncweb.safehaus.org, an HTTP engine built
upon MINA
On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
It almost sounds like this would be a good candidate for a software
grant instead of meriting a full incubation. How large of a community
is around AsyncWeb? From the proposal, it sounds just like one
committer - so as long as the IP
On 7/12/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer
behind AsyncWeb, http://asyncweb.safehaus.org, an HTTP engine built
upon MINA http://directory.apache.org/subprojects/mina/, on
bringing the project to the ASF.
I've started a
Peter,
Can you please ping the Jakarta HttpComponents folks? see what they think?
thanks,
dims
On 7/12/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer
behind AsyncWeb, http://asyncweb.safehaus.org, an HTTP engine built
upon MINA
On 7/12/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer
behind AsyncWeb, http://asyncweb.safehaus.org, an HTTP engine built
upon MINA http://directory.apache.org/subprojects/mina/, on
bringing the project to the ASF.
I've started a
Hi,
You might also want to CC Filip Hanik, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on this
idea. Filip has been busily working on a NIO HTTP implementation for
Tomcat, and has a working version. We've seen some quirky performance
out of it. But that's besides the point: I think he might be
interested in this, at
On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:24 AM, Yoav Shapira wrote:
You might also want to CC Filip Hanik, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on this
idea. Filip has been busily working on a NIO HTTP implementation for
Tomcat, and has a working version. We've seen some quirky performance
out of it. But that's besides the
Yoav Shapira-2 wrote:
Hi,
You might also want to CC Filip Hanik, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on this
idea. Filip has been busily working on a NIO HTTP implementation for
Tomcat, and has a working version. We've seen some quirky performance
out of it. But that's besides the point: I think he
On 7/12/06, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You might also want to CC Filip Hanik, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on this
idea. Filip has been busily working on a NIO HTTP implementation for
Tomcat, and has a working version. We've seen some quirky performance
out of it. But that's besides the
On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
On 7/12/06, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You might also want to CC Filip Hanik, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on this
idea. Filip has been busily working on a NIO HTTP implementation for
Tomcat, and has a working version. We've seen some
Sure!
But do keep in mind, AsyncWeb is not a servlet container.. but I'm
sure there's still bits to be shared, all the work the container does
before having to dedicate a thread.
exactly, and I'm sure that Greg would be interested, if not in the
code, then at least in sharing info about NIO
awesome! thanks.
-- dims
On 7/12/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 12, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Can you please ping the Jakarta HttpComponents folks? see what they
think?
done! (cc'd here as its a good place for common discussion)
-pete
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Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
As an aside, I'm also a bit befuddled at why MINA lives in the
Directory project - that just seems a bit odd. =)
It is there because MINA was written to implement ApacheDS. It is the ...
third, I believe ... generation I/O framework used in that project.
And, yes,
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