On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
...I suppose if a new product + its community want to become part of a PMC,
coding could happen under that PMC (so for example: in a branch of their
repository, releases require 3 +1's by that PMC), but with IPMC or
I suppose if a new product + its community want to become part of a PMC,
coding could happen under that PMC (so for example: in a branch of their
repository, releases require 3 +1's by that PMC), but with IPMC or
comdev watching from the sidelines and helping if needed.
Over at Subversion we once
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Hi Dave,
On 2/26/13 4:18 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
This is exactly the scenario I have in mind. Most of the times,
projects aim for being very successful and have their own
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
I concur with Chris, and want to strengthen/meta the point. The Incubator
should not be used for projects which are intended to become part of an
existing TLP. The Incubator *creates* Apache-style communities. But... Stop.
On Mar 1, 2013 8:33 PM, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
I concur with Chris, and want to strengthen/meta the point. The
Incubator
should not be used for projects which are intended to become part of an
Hi Niall, and Greg,
Just to echo Greg, +1, yes would have preferred it to have happened in the
existing
community then.
Also, agree with Greg -- exceptions can be permitted from time to time,
but I don't think
graduation into existing TLP should be an accepted norm.
Cheers,
Chris
On 3/1/13
On Feb 26, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
Hi Dave,
On 2/26/13 4:18 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
This is exactly the scenario I have in mind. Most of the times,
projects aim for being very successful and have their own healthy
community, but that is
Hi Dave,
On 2/27/13 9:44 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
[..snip..]
Thanks for the examples.
Each case differs. I can agree that we do not want to encourage new
podlings to come in with Plan A to be graduating into an existing TLP,
but I don't think we should exclude a future case
Just trying to understand what is being suggested...
Is it that, should a podling decide it can't go for TLP, and that
another TLP is prepared to accept them, then effectively the
responsibility that the incubator PMC has is transferred to that TLP.
*They* need to incubate the new community into
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
Guys, this was my point a few weeks ago, and the question I posed to
the board. Did the board discuss it at the meeting, or is that part of
the board meeting happening here?
Here is the comment I made in response to
On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Upayavira wrote:
Just trying to understand what is being suggested...
Is it that, should a podling decide it can't go for TLP, and that
another TLP is prepared to accept them, then effectively the
responsibility that the incubator PMC has is transferred to
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
...I'd like to suggest two changes:
1) Incubation is for new TLPs only. Turn off the graduate-into-TLP option.
2) Move the short form IP clearance to Legal Affairs, to clarify that
we're only talking IP, rather than other
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
...I'd like to suggest two changes:
1) Incubation is for new TLPs only. Turn off the graduate-into-TLP option.
2) Move the short form IP
Hi Benson,
On 2/26/13 2:17 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
...I'd like to suggest two changes:
1) Incubation is for new
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Hi Benson,
On 2/26/13 2:17 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Greg
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
...
+1 to both, assuming Legal Affairs accepts 2)
Guys, this was my point a few weeks ago, and the question I posed to
the board.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Hi Benson,
On 2/26/13 2:17 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:04 PM,
On Feb 26, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Luciano Resende wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Hi Benson,
On 2/26/13 2:17 PM, Benson Margulies
Hi Benson,
On 2/26/13 2:58 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
[..snip..]
I think that there are several hairs worth splitting here.
1. Merging into a TLP is a possible outcome for a podling, even when
the initial intention is to graduate independently. Even if we
eliminate this
Hi Dave,
On 2/26/13 4:18 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
This is exactly the scenario I have in mind. Most of the times,
projects aim for being very successful and have their own healthy
community, but that is not always the outcome, and exiting Incubator
as an adopted project
On Feb 26, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Hi Dave,
On 2/26/13 4:18 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
This is exactly the scenario I have in mind. Most of the times,
projects aim for being very successful and have their own
0. What does bogged down mean? Needs specific definition.
Chris,
This is the point in the conversation where I hear the voice of Ross
calling me justly to account for wasting people's time by writing too
quickly. So I will try to atone by clarification.
I think that we are all starting from
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