: Subversion full/partial committer (was: Re: an
experiment)
Hi Joe,
Please read my messages again. I'm not suggesting anything of the
sort.
Craig
On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
Cmon Craig. Subversion is a 10-year old community. Making major
changes
in basic
On Aug 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
identifying the project with the ASF. Similarly on many occasions we have
asked projects to pick a new name as part of the incubation process. We have
made exceptions for well established brands (ServiceMix ActiveMQ were the
first I
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 14:03, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com
wrote:
I don't care what you call them in the project. I'm asking that you use
Apache terminology when discussing things among the wider Apache
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
Craig L Russell wrote:
I don't care what you call them in the project. I'm asking that you use
Apache terminology when discussing things among the wider Apache
community.
The report is consumed by the svn community, too. They reviewed it and
provided
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 13:29, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
...
No way would the Board (nor you) allow arbitrary terminology across
projects even if it is parentheticals (whatever that means).
As far as I'm concerned, the participants are Committers. There is no need
to
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:03, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
...
This seems really simple to me. If I move from Korea to the United States I'd
better start learning to speak English if I want to interact with the
population at large. If I just want to stay within my little
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:06, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
...
The report is consumed by the svn community, too. They reviewed it and
provided feedback. It uses terms from the svn community.
...
No way would the
On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
As I said in my other post, by using *both* sets of terms in the
report, the svn community also learns what the formal names are here
at the ASF. They can see the translation.
So yeah. I'm doing exactly what you're asking: educating the
- Original Message
From: Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 2:38:48 PM
Subject: Re: Subversion full/partial committer (was: Re: an experiment)
On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
As I said in my
Greg Stein wrote:
Actually, we don't use ACLs at all. We simply tell them only commit
in your designated area. We haven't ever had a problem with that
approach.
Even better. :-) Relies on human respect.
Even better: if the committer gets a +1 on a patch from somebody with
full access,
Joe Schaefer wrote:
I'm perfectly comfortable letting the board provide feedback to Greg
about its expectations for future Subversion reports, and see no need
for anyone else to insert their opinions on the subject in any more
than a limited and advisory basis.
I'm still trying to figure out
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 14:56, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
Actually, we don't use ACLs at all. We simply tell them only commit
in your designated area. We haven't ever had a problem with that
approach.
Even better. :-) Relies on human respect.
Even better:
Hi Joe,
Please read my messages again. I'm not suggesting anything of the sort.
Craig
On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
Cmon Craig. Subversion is a 10-year old community. Making major
changes
in basic terminology isn't something that happens in a day.
Craig L Russell
So it allows them to seamlessly earn wider karma via RTC?
Correct.
So, it promotes CTR by the more experienced hands, and RTC by the less
experienced hands. That does not seem like a bad thing.
--- Noel
-
To
Craig L Russell wrote on Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:38:48 -0700:
On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
As I said in my other post, by using *both* sets of terms in the
report, the svn community also learns what the formal names are here
at the ASF. They can see the translation.
So
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 16:20, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
So it allows them to seamlessly earn wider karma via RTC?
Correct.
So, it promotes CTR by the more experienced hands, and RTC by the less
experienced hands. That does not seem like a bad thing.
Yup.
And to clarify:
L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 4:09:19 PM
Subject: Re: Subversion full/partial committer (was: Re: an experiment)
Hi Joe,
Please read my messages again. I'm not suggesting anything of the sort.
Craig
On Aug 19, 2010
?
- Original Message
From: Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 4:09:19 PM
Subject: Re: Subversion full/partial committer (was: Re: an
experiment)
Hi Joe,
Please read my messages again. I'm not suggesting anything
On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
** Community
Since our last report, in May, we have added two more committers.
These are partial committers, meaning they are restricted to certain
portions of the tree. The first, artagnon, is a GSoC student for
Git(!) and is adding
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Craig L Russell
craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote:
I wish we had completed this discussion while subversion was still in
incubation, while the subversion community could learn the common Apache
terminology and have no need for translation of the terms.
Instead, a
PM
Subject: Re: Subversion full/partial committer (was: Re: an experiment)
Hi Joe,
Please read my messages again. I'm not suggesting anything of the sort.
Craig
On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
Cmon Craig. Subversion is a 10-year old community. Making major
changes
- Original Message
From: Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 6:45:54 PM
Subject: Re: Subversion full/partial committer (was: Re: an experiment)
I wish we had completed this discussion while subversion was still
On Aug 19, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
Hm, sounds like sour grapes reappearing. Having the subversion
community
drop 10 years of common terminology and quickly adopt ours isn't
what I
consider part and parcel of incubation.
I guess I have to say it again. I'm not suggesting
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote:
When I saw this month's board report for Subversion, I was taken aback
that the board is expected to follow the terminology used by only one
project. Really? The board, which has used the same terms for 10++
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 18:02, Sanjiva Weerawarana
sanj...@opensource.lk wrote:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Daniel Shahaf
d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote:
When I saw this month's board report for Subversion, I was taken aback
that the board is expected to follow the terminology used by
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 18:02, Sanjiva Weerawarana
sanj...@opensource.lk wrote:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Daniel Shahaf
d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote:
When I saw this month's board report for Subversion, I was taken
Hi Daniel,
On Aug 17, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
Craig L Russell wrote on Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:42:18 -0700:
One of the first things you learn in Apache is that there are (at
least)
three levels of involvement that community members can take:
contributor, committer, PMC
Craig L Russell wrote on Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:42:18 -0700:
One of the first things you learn in Apache is that there are (at least)
three levels of involvement that community members can take:
contributor, committer, PMC member. See how it works, roles, etc. etc.
on the Apache site.
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 14:03, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote:
...
Craig L Russell wrote on Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:42:18 -0700:
...
I don't care what you call them in the project. I'm asking that you use
Apache terminology when discussing things among the wider Apache
Greg Stein wrote on Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 14:26:24 -0400:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 14:03, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com
wrote:
I don't care what you call them in the project. I'm asking that you use
Apache terminology when discussing things among the wider Apache community.
/partial committer (was: Re: an experiment)
Greg Stein wrote on Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 14:26:24 -0400:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 14:03, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com
wrote:
I don't care what you call them in the project. I'm asking that you use
Apache terminology when
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