Re: [VOTE] Release apache-calcite-1.1.0-incubating

2015-03-17 Thread Alan Gates

Forwarding my +1 from dev@calcite:
+1.  I checked the signatures, DISCLAIMER, NOTICE, and LICENSE files, 
built the code and ran the tests, and checked to make sure there were no 
jars or class files in the distribution.


Alan.


Julian Hyde mailto:jh...@apache.org
March 16, 2015 at 23:30
Hi all,

The Calcite community has voted on and approved a proposal to release
Apache Calcite 1.1.0-incubating.

Proposal:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/calcite-dev/201503.mbox/%3ccamctmekcqb3bezn0q-1ug6tzxm1p6jzjvbun9jupsfnjc3r...@mail.gmail.com%3E

Vote result:
3 binding +1 votes
1 non-binding +1 votes
No -1 votes
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/calcite-dev/201503.mbox/%3CCAMCtmeJ4uRMbZRc8yFUw8JjH_P-geG749%3D-6m%3D2K3tYuutSthQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E

The commit to be voted upon:
http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-calcite/commit/f10ea367ff1cc25497f50f149ef0c91b3ae03031

Its hash is f10ea367ff1cc25497f50f149ef0c91b3ae03031.

The artifacts to be voted on are located here:
http://people.apache.org/~jhyde/apache-calcite-1.1.0-incubating-rc1/

The hashes of the artifacts are as follows:
src.tar.gz.md5 805f8a1ec7f7dec0b4cd096a7f2b24c3
src.tar.gz.sha1 bc0e718ce3e75c1975bc1825fca2e0dcb22da3d2
src.zip.md5 41732e764ba9557c2dbf269d7904c61b
src.zip.sha1 d401cf6a1fd539a3167201d5ed2c6dfe31417349

A staged Maven repository is available for review at:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecalcite-1006

Release artifacts are signed with the following key:
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/jhyde.asc

Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and with
the endorsement of 1 of our mentors we would now like to request
the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the release. The vote
is open for 72 hours, or until the necessary number of votes (3 +1)
is reached.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Calcite 1.1.0-incubating
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

Julian Hyde, on behalf of Apache Calcite PPMC

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[VOTE] Release apache-calcite-1.1.0-incubating

2015-03-17 Thread Julian Hyde
Hi all,

The Calcite community has voted on and approved a proposal to release
Apache Calcite 1.1.0-incubating.

Proposal:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/calcite-dev/201503.mbox/%3ccamctmekcqb3bezn0q-1ug6tzxm1p6jzjvbun9jupsfnjc3r...@mail.gmail.com%3E

Vote result:
3 binding +1 votes
1 non-binding +1 votes
No -1 votes
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/calcite-dev/201503.mbox/%3CCAMCtmeJ4uRMbZRc8yFUw8JjH_P-geG749%3D-6m%3D2K3tYuutSthQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E

The commit to be voted upon:
http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-calcite/commit/f10ea367ff1cc25497f50f149ef0c91b3ae03031

Its hash is f10ea367ff1cc25497f50f149ef0c91b3ae03031.

The artifacts to be voted on are located here:
http://people.apache.org/~jhyde/apache-calcite-1.1.0-incubating-rc1/

The hashes of the artifacts are as follows:
src.tar.gz.md5 805f8a1ec7f7dec0b4cd096a7f2b24c3
src.tar.gz.sha1 bc0e718ce3e75c1975bc1825fca2e0dcb22da3d2
src.zip.md5 41732e764ba9557c2dbf269d7904c61b
src.zip.sha1 d401cf6a1fd539a3167201d5ed2c6dfe31417349

A staged Maven repository is available for review at:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecalcite-1006

Release artifacts are signed with the following key:
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/jhyde.asc

Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and with
the endorsement of 1 of our mentors we would now like to request
the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the release. The vote
is open for 72 hours, or until the necessary number of votes (3 +1)
is reached.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Calcite 1.1.0-incubating
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

Julian Hyde, on behalf of Apache Calcite PPMC

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Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
This should also be done for the logo as well... I don't
know the provenance of it, but I am sure that the Groovy
team does not want to abandon its logo.

 On Mar 17, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
 
 On 3/17/15 12:41 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
 On 3/11/15 4:20 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
 Great initiative!
 
 Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and
 possible trademark in the proposal. Does Pivotal have any claims to
 the name groovy, and if so are those claims transferred to the ASF?
 
 Good point.  Just from the Apache *policy* side, the ASF must have
 trademark rights to a podling's name before the board will approve a
 graduation vote.  With such a long history, we would need a clear
 statement of some sort from whoever was previously hosting Groovy
 software product releases, which would seem to be Pivotal.  Or, the
 podling would have to choose a new name that we did have rights to.  8-)
 
 If the PPMC requests it, we can then register the project's name as a
 trademark in the US *after* graduation.
 
 If this podling joins the incubator, please coordinate some Groovy PPMC
 and Pivotal contacts with trademarks@.  Presuming Pivotal is willing
 (and I can't imagine why they wouldn't be), trademarks@ can ensure the
 right stuff gets done.
 
 Turns out it is not up to Pivotal. In fact, the statement I've just got goes
 like this: Pivotal does not have, nor will it make, any claims to the GROOVY
 trademark
 
 Can you ensure that whoever actually wrote that from the Pivotal side
 communicates it to trademarks@, or at least to vp-brand@?  If we do have
 questions later, counsel will need to email someone directly about it.
 
 
 Basically, Pivotal was happy to sponsor the project (just like it sponsors
 RabbitMQ or Redis) but wasn't involved in sorting out the situation around
 the Groovy project name and its legal status.
 
 Shane, please let me know if this bit of information is sufficient for you.
 It appears as though ASF will have to do the usual PODDLINGNAMESEARCH
 and determine the status of Groovy trademark on its own.
 
 I plan to start a [VOTE] thread sometime on Wed, unless you tell me 
 otherwise.
 
 No need to gate a podling acceptance vote on branding issues.  The only
 hard requirement is before graduation.
 
 - Shane
 
 
 Thanks,
 Roman.
 
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Re: [VOTE] Release apache-calcite-1.1.0-incubating

2015-03-17 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

+1 binding

- signatures and hashes correct
- artefact has incubating in it's name
- DISCLAIMER exists
- LICENSE and NOTICE correct
- All source files have Apache header
- No unexpected binary files
- Can compile from source
- Tests pass

Minor issue is that the RC was not placed in the correct place [1] Can this be 
done with the next release candidate?

Thanks,
Justin

1. 
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#glossary-incubator-dist
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Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 3/17/15 12:41 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
 On 3/11/15 4:20 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
 Great initiative!

 Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and
 possible trademark in the proposal. Does Pivotal have any claims to
 the name groovy, and if so are those claims transferred to the ASF?

 Good point.  Just from the Apache *policy* side, the ASF must have
 trademark rights to a podling's name before the board will approve a
 graduation vote.  With such a long history, we would need a clear
 statement of some sort from whoever was previously hosting Groovy
 software product releases, which would seem to be Pivotal.  Or, the
 podling would have to choose a new name that we did have rights to.  8-)

 If the PPMC requests it, we can then register the project's name as a
 trademark in the US *after* graduation.

 If this podling joins the incubator, please coordinate some Groovy PPMC
 and Pivotal contacts with trademarks@.  Presuming Pivotal is willing
 (and I can't imagine why they wouldn't be), trademarks@ can ensure the
 right stuff gets done.
 
 Turns out it is not up to Pivotal. In fact, the statement I've just got goes
 like this: Pivotal does not have, nor will it make, any claims to the GROOVY
 trademark

Can you ensure that whoever actually wrote that from the Pivotal side
communicates it to trademarks@, or at least to vp-brand@?  If we do have
questions later, counsel will need to email someone directly about it.

 
 Basically, Pivotal was happy to sponsor the project (just like it sponsors
 RabbitMQ or Redis) but wasn't involved in sorting out the situation around
 the Groovy project name and its legal status.
 
 Shane, please let me know if this bit of information is sufficient for you.
 It appears as though ASF will have to do the usual PODDLINGNAMESEARCH
 and determine the status of Groovy trademark on its own.
 
 I plan to start a [VOTE] thread sometime on Wed, unless you tell me otherwise.

No need to gate a podling acceptance vote on branding issues.  The only
hard requirement is before graduation.

- Shane

 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Pascal Schumacher

Hi everybody,

when will the voting start? Or if it did start already when will there 
be decision?


Thanks and kind regards,
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Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Cédric Champeau

Hi Hervé,

It would be very nice, if it fits the general schedule (Groovy is not 
yet voted).


Best regards,

On 16/03/2015 23:00, Hervé Boutemy wrote:

Hi,

We're scheduling the Jira migration for Maven projects on the week-end of
4/5/6 april.
If this schedule is fine for Groovy, I suppose it would be ok to add Groovy
Jira project to the actual list [1]
Just tell, and I'll avoid to remove Groovy from the full dump we'll have
during the migration.

Regards,

Hervé

Notice: please CC me if necessary, since I'm not subscribed to
general@incubator

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9116

Le lundi 16 mars 2015 09:53:00 Stephen Connolly a écrit :

Arg! hit send too soon.

You should really check in with Hervé to confirm that Groovy was in the
export. I am 99% confident that your issues and comments are in the XML
dump, but you really should check with Hervé to be certain.

Also you may want to ask Mark Thomas what exactly is involved in preparing
and doing such an import. Our own timelines for Maven's switch may not
align with the Groovy incubation timelines... (mind you we are all at the
grace of Ben for getting our timeline for the second export he committed to
the Maven project)

On 16 March 2015 at 09:49, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com

wrote:



On 16 March 2015 at 09:19, Cédric Champeau cedric.champ...@gmail.com

wrote:

Thanks Stephen, sounds like a good news. For us the attachments do not
matter much, there are not so many. However, keeping track of comments is
very important, because some issues have a lot of discussions.

2015-03-16 10:08 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly 
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com


On 16 March 2015 at 08:55, Jochen Theodorou blackd...@gmx.org wrote:

Am 16.03.2015 09:25, schrieb Upayavira:

When Stephen Connolly says ”We @ Maven will have a full dump of the
Codehaus JIRA and we have a VM set
up to test migration…” isn’t he implying that the Groovy issues are
*included* in that? I.e. there’s not so much for you to worry about
here?

Even if Stephen gets a full dump, this does not mean we will get the
Groovy part out of it. Ben was so far telling us he cannot give it
out

like


that, because of private and internal data in there. Instead he

suggested a


json export (which most likely will not contain everything)

Well we are getting the full XML dump because that's all you can get
via
the XML dump, but whether we get *all* attachments or only those for

Maven


is a different question.


So unless Stephy has this clear with his employee I stand on the
part,
that we don't have that.

Clarification: Ben and I are co-workers.


bye Jochen

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Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi Russel!

thanks for following up here. I've seen that others have commented
on the points you raised, but I also wanted to chime in before this
thread goes into a VOTE phase.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:50 AM, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote:
 On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 08:55 +0100, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Cédric Champeau
 cedric.champ...@gmail.com wrote:
  ...I see no point in wanting to reach a target number of
  committers. Having a large number of quality contributions, more
  contributors is IMHO more important than people having write access to the
  repo

 Once again, there's no set number that you have to reach to graduate -
 it is not about numbers.

 I think something has gone very wrong with this point about committer
 count, see below…

I could see where you're coming from, but my personal experience around
incubator suggests that this could only be a problem if the folks who may
have a stake in the project are not recognized during the incubation phase.

See bellow for more details:

 As I said before, being a committer does not necessarily means commit
 code - if someone's a project evangelist for example and you'd like
 them to be recognized as a core team member the only way in an Apache
 project is to make them a committer (and maybe PMC member). As in
 committed to the project, even if they don't write code.

 I think this is a fundamentally wrong metric.

 I have been associated with the Groovy programming language since 2004.
 Do I have commit privileges, no. Am I part of the Groovy community?
 Well I would say yes, and if you ask people at Groovy-related,
 DevoxxUK-related, ACCU-related conferences Is Russel Winder a part of
 the Groovy community, I think those that knew my name would say
 definitely. Likewise Is Russel Winder a strong Groovy advocate with a
 history of converting people to Groovy/Gradle/Spock/GroovyFX/GPars?
 would get a lot of yes answers. Am I a committer to the Groovy project,
 no. Do I feel I have to gain status as a committer to validate my
 position in the Groovy community? No.

This is where ASF starts being a really special kind of foundation. While
the committership status most definitely allows you to push bits into
source code repository, what it really signifies is your commitment
(no pun intended) to the project. This is a very subtle, but a very important
distinction that Incubator folks are trying to emphasize with every poddling.
Poddling's community is NOT only developers, but all the other folks
who make the community vibrant as well.

Now, given that a formal recognition of a committer could be somewhat
time consuming, I've seen a few cases in the past where a PMC approached
a prolific contributor to invite him or her to join a project in a
more official status
and received a polite decline. To me this shows a great degree of maturity
and responsibility, but the fact that the offer was made in first place shows
that the project is functioning as a true ASF project.

Now, I don't have a benefit of following Groovy development history for as long
as you have (I've started my journey somewhere around '09). That said,
from what I've seen -- you're definitely one of the 'Groovy folks'.
Thus, as a mentor,
I am going to make sure that Groovy podling does the right things and reaches
out to the folks like you.

More on the process here: https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html

 With The Groovy Project seeking to become a TLP of the Apache
 Organization, I have been taking a peek at some of the writing on The
 Apache Way. The phrase that springs immediately to my mind is Community
 over Code. Most of the discussion in this thread though is about the
 number of committers, as though only committers are part of the
 community. Forgive me presuming to say this but this seems a
 contradiction with The Apache Way as written about. Also it is very
 CVCS/Subversion focussed.

You're absolutely correct. The community is way bigger than PMC and also
bigger than formally recognized committers. That said, making sure that
merit is recognized with invitations is one of the things we feels helps us
run great communities as smoothly as possible.

 So I would say that status within the community is unrelated to status
 as a committer, and health of the project is likewise unrelated to the
 number of committers. If The Apache Way requires a person to be a
 committer to be considered a recognized person in a community, then I
 say the metric is wrong and Apache should reconsider its metrics.

 Having ways and means to ensure releases, that pull requests come in,
 that mailing lists are vibrant and constructive, that Groovy evolves to
 the needs of mankind (not just the current users) is almost, but not
 quite, totally unrelated to the number of committers.

Personally, I think we are completely on the same page.

Please let me know if you have any suggestions wrt. wording of the proposal.

We're planning to move to a 

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...You may think that the discussion has died down, but perhaps recall
 the lesson of NiFi. Or not, it might not strike you as applicable...

I wasn't involved (or maybe I think I wasn't ;-) so I don't - archive
URLs welcome.

-Bertrand

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[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Apache Singa as incubator project

2015-03-17 Thread Thejas Nair
After a week-long voting period, the VOTE for accepting Singa into the
Apache Incubator has passed with 7 binding +1s and 1 binding +0 .

+1 (binding)
Konstantin I Boudnik
Ted Dunning
Alan Gates
Thejas Nair
Konstantin I Boudnik
Alan Cabrera
Daniel Dai

+0 (binding)
Jan I

Thanks for voting!

I will work on getting the infra JIRAs created.

Thanks,
Thejas


-- Forwarded message --
From: Thejas Nair thejas.n...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 7:30 AM
Subject: [VOTE] Accept Apache Singa as incubator project
To:
Cc: oo...@comp.nus.edu.sg


The Singa Incubator Proposal document has been updated based on
feedback in the proposal thread.

This vote is proposing the inclusion of Apache Singa as incubator project.
The vote will run for at least 72 hours.

[ ] +1 Accept Apache Singa into the Incubator
[ ] +0 Don’t care.
[ ] -1 Don’t accept Apache Singa into the Incubator because..

Please vote !

Here is my +1 .

Link to version of proposal being voted on :
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SingaProposal?action=recallrev=10

The text is below
--

= Singa Incubator Proposal =
== Abstract ==
SINGA is a distributed deep learning platform.

== Proposal ==
SINGA is an efficient, scalable and easy-to-use distributed platform
for training deep learning models, e.g., Deep Convolutional Neural Network and
Deep Belief Network. It parallelizes the computation (i.e., training) onto a
cluster of nodes by distributing the training data and model automatically to
speed up the training. Built-in training algorithms like Back-Propagation and
Contrastive Divergence are implemented based on common abstractions of deep
learning models. Users can train their own deep learning models by simply
customizing these abstractions like implementing the Mapper and
Reducer in Hadoop.

== Background ==
Deep learning refers to a set of feature (or representation) learning models
that consist of multiple (non-linear) layers, where different layers learn
different levels of abstractions (representations) of the raw input data.
Larger (in terms of model parameters) and deeper (in terms of number of layers)
models have shown better performance, e.g., lower image classification error in
Large Scale Visual Recognition Challenge. However, a larger model requires more
memory and larger training data to reduce over-fitting. Complex
numeric operations
make the training computation intensive. In practice, training large
deep learning
models takes weeks or months on a single node (even with GPU).

== Rational ==
Deep learning has gained a lot of attraction in both academia and
industry due to
its success in a wide range of areas such as computer vision and
speech recognition.
However, training of such models is computationally expensive,
especially for large
and deep models (e.g., with billions of parameters and more than 10
layers). Both
Google and Microsoft have developed distributed deep learning systems
to make the
training more efficient by distributing the computations within a
cluster of nodes.
However, these systems are closed source softwares. Our goal is to leverage the
community of open source developers to make SINGA efficient, scalable
and easy to
use. SINGA is a full fledged distributed platform, that could benefit the
community and also benefit from the community in their involvement in
contributing
to the further work in this area. We believe the nature of SINGA and our visions
for the system fit naturally to Apache's philosophy and development framework.

== Initial Goals ==
We have developed a system for SINGA running on a commodity computer
cluster. The initial goals include,
 * improving the system in terms of scalability and efficiency, e.g.,
using Infiniband for network communication and multi-threading for one
node computation. We would consider extending SINGA to GPU clusters
later.
 * benchmarking with larger datasets (hundreds of millions of training
instances) and models (billions of parameters).
 * adding more built-in deep learning models. Users can train the
built-in models on their datasets directly.


== Current Status ==
=== Meritocracy ===
We would like to follow ASF meritocratic principles to encourage more developers
to contribute in this project. We know that only active and excellent developers
can make SINGA a successful project. The committer list and PMC will be updated
based on developers' performance and commitment. We are also improving the
documentation and code to help new developers get started quickly.

=== Community ===
SINGA is currently being developed in the Database System Research Lab at the
National University of Singapore (NUS) in collaboration with Zhejiang
University in China.
Our lab has extensive experience in building database related systems, including
distributed systems. Six PhD students and research assistants (Jinyang Gao,
Kaiping Zheng, Sheng Wang, Wei Wang, Zhaojing Luo and Zhongle Xie) , a research
fellow (Anh Dinh) and three 

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Upayavira
Roman is saying he will start the vote tomorrow. You will see a thread
on this list with [VOTE] in the subject.

As to what the vote is about - this is the Apache Incubator PMC (Project
Management Committee) voting as to whether to accept Groovy into the
Incubator. Votes from others, who aren’t on the Incubator PMC are
welcome as they inform the process, but for this particular purpose,
won’t be binding.

Personally, it seems a pretty straight-forward thing to me, but then, we
won’t know that for sure until the vote has actually happened.

I’d expect Roman’s vote email to explain how long the vote will run for.

Upayavira

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015, at 06:27 PM, Pascal Schumacher wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 when will the voting start? Or if it did start already when will there 
 be decision?
 
 Thanks and kind regards,
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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Matt Franklin
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:09 PM Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org
wrote:

 Hi,

 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
 wrote:
  ...having seen some of the issues that came from prior proposals rushing
  a vote, I'd like to see [VOTE] thread to exist for at least a week

 I don't think letting the vote drag on purpose is useful - after
 almost a week of discussions it seems like all the (minor) issues that
 have not come to closure need to be discussed once the podling is
 established. A longer vote would be counterproductive w.r.t these
 issues.


+1.  That is the purpose of the discussion phase.  We should all have
enough context to vote one way or another.



 So unless new issues come up once the vote starts (which would be bad
 - that's why we have a DISCUSS phase) I would very much like to close
 the vote after the standard 72 hours.

 -Bertrand

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Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
... Starting the vote on the proposal is Roman's job anyway, as the Groovy
 champion, so let's wait for him...

Is there any reason to wait more?
IMO the discussion on the proposal has died down so we can move forward.

Roman, WDYT?

-Bertrand

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[ANNOUNCE] Apache NiFi 0.0.2-incubating release

2015-03-17 Thread Joe Witt
Hello

The Apache NiFi team is excited to announce the release of Apache NiFi
0.0.2-incubating.

Apache NiFi is an easy to use, powerful, and reliable system to
process and distribute data.  Apache NiFi was made for dataflow.  It
supports highly configurable directed graphs of data routing,
transformation, and system mediation logic.

More details on Apache NiFi can be found here:
http://nifi.incubator.apache.org/

The release artifacts can be downloaded from here:
http://nifi.incubator.apache.org/downloads/

Maven artifacts have been made available here:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/releases/org/apache/nifi/

Release notes available here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12316020version=12329373

Thank you
The Apache NiFi team


DISCLAIMER

Apache NiFi is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache Software
Foundation (ASF), sponsored by  Apache Incubator. Incubation is
required of all newly accepted projects until a further review
indicates that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making
process have stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful
ASF projects. While incubation status is not necessarily a reflection
of the completeness or stability of the code, it does indicate that
the project has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.

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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny elecha...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...We already have demonstrated our ability to raises various points on
 various subjects, time to demonstrate The ASF in action !..

+1 - as I said elsethread it's in theory Roman's job to start the
vote, as the Groovy champion.

But I guess if any of the mentors feel impatient we can do that as
well...going once... ;-)

-Bertrand

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Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Hi guys,


we can discuss for 3 more months, but at some point, isn't it time to
start a vote ?

We already have demonstrated our ability to raises various points on
various subjects, time to demonstrate The ASF in action !


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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Cédric Champeau

On 17/03/2015 15:34, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny elecha...@gmail.com wrote:

...We already have demonstrated our ability to raises various points on
various subjects, time to demonstrate The ASF in action !..

+1 - as I said elsethread it's in theory Roman's job to start the
vote, as the Groovy champion.

But I guess if any of the mentors feel impatient we can do that as
well...going once... ;-)

-Bertrand

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I wouldn't mind starting a vote early, given the time constraints that 
we have :)


--
Cédric Champeau
Groovy language developer
http://twitter.com/CedricChampeau
http://melix.github.io/blog


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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Cédric Champeau
cedric.champ...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...I wouldn't mind starting a vote early, given the time constraints that we
 have :)...

Ok, I'll start the vote Wednesday morning CET unless we hear from
Roman until then.

-Bertrand

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Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 You may think that the discussion has died down, but perhaps recall
 the lesson of NiFi. Or not, it might not strike you as applicable.

exactly!

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
 On 3/11/15 4:20 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
 Great initiative!

 Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and
 possible trademark in the proposal. Does Pivotal have any claims to
 the name groovy, and if so are those claims transferred to the ASF?

 Good point.  Just from the Apache *policy* side, the ASF must have
 trademark rights to a podling's name before the board will approve a
 graduation vote.  With such a long history, we would need a clear
 statement of some sort from whoever was previously hosting Groovy
 software product releases, which would seem to be Pivotal.  Or, the
 podling would have to choose a new name that we did have rights to.  8-)

 If the PPMC requests it, we can then register the project's name as a
 trademark in the US *after* graduation.

 If this podling joins the incubator, please coordinate some Groovy PPMC
 and Pivotal contacts with trademarks@.  Presuming Pivotal is willing
 (and I can't imagine why they wouldn't be), trademarks@ can ensure the
 right stuff gets done.

Turns out it is not up to Pivotal. In fact, the statement I've just got goes
like this: Pivotal does not have, nor will it make, any claims to the GROOVY
trademark

Basically, Pivotal was happy to sponsor the project (just like it sponsors
RabbitMQ or Redis) but wasn't involved in sorting out the situation around
the Groovy project name and its legal status.

Shane, please let me know if this bit of information is sufficient for you.
It appears as though ASF will have to do the usual PODDLINGNAMESEARCH
and determine the status of Groovy trademark on its own.

I plan to start a [VOTE] thread sometime on Wed, unless you tell me otherwise.

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Benson Margulies
You may think that the discussion has died down, but perhaps recall
the lesson of NiFi. Or not, it might not strike you as applicable.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
 bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
... Starting the vote on the proposal is Roman's job anyway, as the Groovy
 champion, so let's wait for him...

 Is there any reason to wait more?
 IMO the discussion on the proposal has died down so we can move forward.

 Roman, WDYT?

 -Bertrand

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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny elecha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,


 we can discuss for 3 more months, but at some point, isn't it time to
 start a vote ?

Sure. But at least a week for something like Groovy should be expected.
Besides, I still owe IPMC an answer about status of the Groovy trademark.
I'm trying to research this on my end with Pivotal team.

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi!

having seen some of the issues that came from prior proposals rushing
a vote, I'd like to see [VOTE] thread to exist for at least a week.

I am going to start a vote tomorrow once a full week of [DISCUSS]
elapses.

Thanks,
Roman.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Cédric Champeau
 cedric.champ...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...I wouldn't mind starting a vote early, given the time constraints that we
 have :)...

 Ok, I'll start the vote Wednesday morning CET unless we hear from
 Roman until then.

 -Bertrand

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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
 ...I still owe IPMC an answer about status of the Groovy trademark.
 I'm trying to research this on my end with Pivotal team...

Sure, it's good to find out but I don't think that's a blocker for
entering incubation.

-Bertrand

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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi,

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
 ...having seen some of the issues that came from prior proposals rushing
 a vote, I'd like to see [VOTE] thread to exist for at least a week

I don't think letting the vote drag on purpose is useful - after
almost a week of discussions it seems like all the (minor) issues that
have not come to closure need to be discussed once the podling is
established. A longer vote would be counterproductive w.r.t these
issues.

So unless new issues come up once the vote starts (which would be bad
- that's why we have a DISCUSS phase) I would very much like to close
the vote after the standard 72 hours.

-Bertrand

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