[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-05 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, Since Apache NetBeans (incubating) entered the Apache incubator in October 2016, we have completed 3 releases, integrated the NetBeans community into working in the Apache Way, gradually migrated donations received from Oracle to Apache, and are not complete in that process since there

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread James Bognar
My $.02. Apache is sorely in need of a portal similar to StackOverflow. I, like many other software developers, primarily use Google for finding answers. 90% of the time those answers are going to be found on StackOverflow. Answers on mailing lists are not going to show up in Google results,

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread Vinayakumar B
Agree with james. Most of us search for an answer in Google.. which eventually take us to stackoverflow. Apache Mailing list answers are very rare in Google results. Stackoverflow like portal could become next podling for incubator. -Vinay On Fri, 5 Apr 2019, 7:05 pm James Bognar, wrote: >

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - > On Apr 5, 2019, at 7:49 AM, Serge Huber wrote: > > If I may contribute my view here. > > Using StackOverflow is mostly great for StackOverflow. The more people go > there to post questions and get answers really helps mostly StackOverflow's > bottom line. Also, StackOverflow does NOT

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 3:35 PM James Bognar wrote: > ...Apache is sorely in need of a portal similar to StackOverflow... What makes you think we need our own service, as opposed to helping our users where they are? As Ted said in this thread: > Just subscribe to appropriate tags on stack

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread sebb
On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 at 15:58, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi - > > > On Apr 5, 2019, at 7:49 AM, Serge Huber wrote: > > > > If I may contribute my view here. > > > > Using StackOverflow is mostly great for StackOverflow. The more people go > > there to post questions and get answers really helps

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread Kenneth Knowles
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 6:35 AM James Bognar wrote: > My $.02. > > Apache is sorely in need of a portal similar to StackOverflow. I, > like many other software developers, primarily use Google for finding > answers. 90% of the time those answers are going to be found on > StackOverflow.

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread Serge Huber
If I may contribute my view here. Using StackOverflow is mostly great for StackOverflow. The more people go there to post questions and get answers really helps mostly StackOverflow's bottom line. Also, StackOverflow does NOT allow to simply link to sites for answers, which is smart on their part

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Sorry the bit I pasted doesn’t make sense on it’s own It should of started with "for other than personal, noncommercial use is expressly prohibited …” Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread Ted Dunning
Justin, THis is a huge and important point. I had completely forgotten that SO had these abusive terms. To summarize, just so everybody is clear, according to their terms of service *anything* you put on SO is the property of SO. That is sooo completely anti-Apache, that I have a hard time

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread Adrian Cole
I think we should get legal clarity if folks disagree, but providing content under CC license does not stop you from also licensing it under ASL. IOTW, I can give an answer, license that answer simultaneously to two parties. Agree that we cant lift other people's content from SO based on its

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, You also might want to note that anything contributed to stack overflow is licensed under the CC-SA-3.0 [1] which may causes issues. [2] For instance code from a stack overflow post can’t be included in a Apache project's code base. In edition also note "noncommercial use is expressly

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo Spring Boot Project (Incubating) 2.7.1

2019-04-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, + 1 (binding) I checked: - incubating in name - signature and hashes good - DISCLAIMER exists - LICENSE and NOTICE exists - No unexpected binary files in release - All source files have ASF headers - Can compile from source Thanks, Justin

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread Adrian Cole
not saying it is practical but what I was getting at with the "also licensing to ASF" thing would be a feature request to SO similar to github contributing file integration. ASF members could choose to license to ASF by default and have a badge put on their content accordingly. This doesn't

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache PLC4X (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-05 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
+1 from my side. This looks like a small but very viable community to me. Thanks, Roman. On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 6:38 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > Thanks! My concern is that in the past the IPMC has graduated podlings with 5 > PMC members that fairly quickly ended up in the Attic. >

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Ted, > On Apr 5, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > Justin, > > THis is a huge and important point. > > I had completely forgotten that SO had these abusive terms. > > To summarize, just so everybody is clear, according to their terms of > service *anything* you put on SO is the

Re: Podling use of StackOverflow

2019-04-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Not by my reading. Contributions to the content are licensed to SO by a grant > similar to the way contributions to Apache are licensed by a grant. It's not > copyright assignment, it's "just a grant. I believe they become a little more friendlier and it use to be that they did own

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Druid (incubating) 0.14.0 [RC3]

2019-04-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, +1 (binding) I checked: - incubating in name - signatures and hashes fine - DISCLAIMER exists - LICENSE and NOTICE ok - No unexpected binary files - All source files have ASF headers - Can compile from source Thanks, Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache PLC4X (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, +1 - looks good to me Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org