Re: making project decisions with a small number of PMC members

2007-05-15 Thread Leo Simons
On May 15, 2007, at 12:26 AM, Brett Porter wrote: Quick question (I hope). I was thinking about what will happen if the NMaven podling would like to add a committer, make a release, etc. Would votes by Maven PMC members (As the sponsoring project) be considered binding in this case, or should

Re: [Vote] Ratify the release of Apache Tuscany SDO 1.0-incubating-beta1

2007-05-15 Thread kelvin goodson
Niall, many thanks for the fix. That's really helpful. With regards to the license issue, in the future I believe OSOA will publish the SDO APIs, in a maven repository, but that's not the case yet, and we need these artifacts to publish an SDO release. I believe that we are compliant with

Re: guides/graduation

2007-05-15 Thread Danny Angus
Craig, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think On 5/14/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I'm confused. Could someone put some alias names to these concepts? I thought we were talking about project-dev and project- user. What aliases are others referring to? Thanks,

Re: WANTED: Another Mentor for QPid

2007-05-15 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/14/07, Martin Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, just wanted to keep this thread alive as it has been almost a month and we are still a mentor short. I just saw this, I'd be happy to serve if needed, FWIW I work in Glasgow so I have some degree of geographical proximity with the QPid

Re: [Vote] Ratify the release of Apache Tuscany SDO 1.0-incubating-beta1

2007-05-15 Thread Niall Pemberton
On 5/15/07, kelvin goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Niall, many thanks for the fix. That's really helpful. With regards to the license issue, in the future I believe OSOA will publish the SDO APIs, in a maven repository, but that's not the case yet, and we need these artifacts to publish

Re: making project decisions with a small number of PMC members

2007-05-15 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Brett, +1 to most of what Leo says. I'd point out that the main purpose of the PPMC is to get the podling to the point of making decisions the Apache Way and the IPMC then ratifies the decisions. This model should allow the decisions to be made by the people who know and care the most,

Re: guides/graduation

2007-05-15 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Danny, Thanks for that. This does put a different slant on things. I intend to discuss all of these mailing lists along with the email alias file, posting to the lists, and subscribing to the lists, in the update. Craig On May 15, 2007, at 5:33 AM, Danny Angus wrote: Craig, [EMAIL

RE: Demote TSIK to dormant

2007-05-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I already did this a while back... http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html where else do i have to do it? Remove it from incubator-info.txt (and from the Wiki reporting pages). Again, the redundant data problem raises its ugly head. --- Noel

Re: Demote TSIK to dormant

2007-05-15 Thread Davanum Srinivas
It's not on the wiki pages either...i'll look into the incubator-info.txt (svn?) thanks, dims On 5/15/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already did this a while back... http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html where else do i have to do it? Remove it from

Re: making project decisions with a small number of PMC members

2007-05-15 Thread Brett Porter
Thanks folks. What Leo and Craig said is what I expected, though I was a bit concerned about finding the IPMC people to ratify such decisions. I'll still look for more mentors. - Brett On 15/05/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brett, +1 to most of what Leo says. I'd point out

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 6 May 07, at 11:11 AM 6 May 07, Shane Isbell wrote: [ ] use standard repositories [ x ] relocate repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator My reasons are as follows: First, NMaven does not follow the standard repo layout; second, the repository layout structure is still in a

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 6 May 07, at 8:56 PM 6 May 07, Daniel Kulp wrote: Shane, Honestly, it sounds like the NMaven stuff will need a complete new set of repositories for NMaven artifacts. There isn't any way, IMO, that the repo layout can change for the normal maven 1 and maven 2 repositories.

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 6 May 07, at 9:13 PM 6 May 07, Carlos Sanchez wrote: I didn't have a chance to talk about this with Shane but the idea in the end is to make the repository agnostic on how things are stored and how the client uses them. Right now is a simple directory, but could be a database with a web

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread Shane Isbell
Just to clarify, the implementation is now as follows: NMaven uses the default repo format remotely and then transforms locally; this is the most pragmatic approach, and I don't have any immediate concerns. The problem, however, is that we are exposing the internal schema to the client; this

[VOTE] Release Apache ODE 1.0

2007-05-15 Thread Matthieu Riou
The ODE community held a vote for its first incubator release. See [1] for the tally of 6 +1s (including one mentor vote) and no 0 or -1s. We're now asking for a vote by the incubator PMC to authorize the publication of our 1.0 release. The release consists of 3 different artifacts: - A

RE: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Although HTTP GET with a URL may qualify as an API, under its current form its really implementation (file-system) specific. What makes it implementation specific? You can't store the files in a DB, and map the URI to the resource? Isn't it really a URI, specifying the package name and

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/15/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although HTTP GET with a URL may qualify as an API, under its current form its really implementation (file-system) specific. What makes it implementation specific? You can't store the files in a DB, and map the URI to the resource? Isn't

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread Shane Isbell
Hi Noel, Correct, using a URI does not require a specific implementation; but in today's environment, if someone needs a different repo format, they get one of two responses: 1) create your own repo that uses a different repo format; or 2) use the same repo format but transform the artifact

Re: Yoko Incubator Report?

2007-05-15 Thread Darren Middleman
OK...I'll get it done for next month. Darren On 5/14/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darren Middleman wrote: Sorry about the incubator report, I didn't realize it was that time already. I'll get this together and post it to the Wiki tomorrow (Tuesday). That will be too late.