Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP

2010-01-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Matthieu Riou matthieu.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...By the way if you have a few minutes, some feedback about the resolution
 that Eric attached would be cool...

The resolution looks good to me, but the proposed PMC is really small:

 * Jonathan Ellisjbel...@apache.org
 * Eric Evanseev...@apache.org
 * Jun Rao   jun...@apache.org
 * Chris Goffinetgoffi...@apache.org

And all of its members are currently active in Cassandra only.

Would it be possible for (some of) the mentors to stay onboard for a while?
With only 4 PMC members to start with, the risk of being unable to get
3 votes on issues is real.

-Bertrand

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Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP

2010-01-19 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Matthieu Riou matthieu.r...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 ...By the way if you have a few minutes, some feedback about the resolution
 that Eric attached would be cool...

 The resolution looks good to me, but the proposed PMC is really small:

         * Jonathan Ellis            jbel...@apache.org
         * Eric Evans                eev...@apache.org
         * Jun Rao                   jun...@apache.org
         * Chris Goffinet            goffi...@apache.org

 And all of its members are currently active in Cassandra only.

 Would it be possible for (some of) the mentors to stay onboard for a while?
 With only 4 PMC members to start with, the risk of being unable to get
 3 votes on issues is real.

that's a good point, Bertrand. Those that are involved in other
communities are the
mentors, like Torsten, Matthieu or Brian (according to [1]). Looks like the only
exception is Johan Oskarsson, but I am not to familiar with the
community itself
and its activity. However I noted that Johan voted for the graduation...

I am also not sure why the proposed PMC is that small. Some try to expand
their PPMC during incubation with all the active folks (mailings and commits).
So, I am not sure on the reason why there is this small (P)PMC.

-Matthias

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Re: Handling of Traffic Server Trademark

2010-01-19 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:50, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
 Leif Hedstrom wrote:

 Traffic Server would like to resolve the TradeMark issues.
 Who would be able to make this call?

snip/
 Does anyone else have an opinion?  Please do offer it.  :-)

There's a third option: Rename the project.
Has this been discussed already?

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Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP

2010-01-19 Thread ant elder
I echo Matthieu's comments about Cassandra being ready to graduate,
I'll vote +1 for it in a vote. Not sure if that PMC list is actually
the complete list as I thought there was talk of adding others, i'll
ask about it on their private list.

   ...ant

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
 bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Matthieu Riou matthieu.r...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 ...By the way if you have a few minutes, some feedback about the resolution
 that Eric attached would be cool...

 The resolution looks good to me, but the proposed PMC is really small:

         * Jonathan Ellis            jbel...@apache.org
         * Eric Evans                eev...@apache.org
         * Jun Rao                   jun...@apache.org
         * Chris Goffinet            goffi...@apache.org

 And all of its members are currently active in Cassandra only.

 Would it be possible for (some of) the mentors to stay onboard for a while?
 With only 4 PMC members to start with, the risk of being unable to get
 3 votes on issues is real.

 that's a good point, Bertrand. Those that are involved in other
 communities are the
 mentors, like Torsten, Matthieu or Brian (according to [1]). Looks like the 
 only
 exception is Johan Oskarsson, but I am not to familiar with the
 community itself
 and its activity. However I noted that Johan voted for the graduation...

 I am also not sure why the proposed PMC is that small. Some try to expand
 their PPMC during incubation with all the active folks (mailings and commits).
 So, I am not sure on the reason why there is this small (P)PMC.

 -Matthias

 [1] http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html


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Re: Missing reports due NOW

2010-01-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
The notification was sent but got stuck in moderation with no
moderator for the dev@ list.

Martijn

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Francis De Brabandere
franci...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as I know we (empire-db) also did not receive a notification.

 Cheers,
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 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Hyrum K. Wright
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 On Jan 18, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
 Missing:

        Subversion

 Hmm.  Something went wrong with the automated notifier as this ball
 got dropped, I guess.  Subversion should have something submitted by
 this evening.  -- justin

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RE: Missing reports due NOW

2010-01-19 Thread Gav...


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 From: Martijn Dashorst [mailto:martijn.dasho...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 7:24 PM
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Missing reports due NOW
 
 The notification was sent but got stuck in moderation with no
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Or no 'active' moderators, these are listed as mods for the dev list.


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Gav...

 
 Martijn
 
 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Francis De Brabandere
 franci...@gmail.com wrote:
  As far as I know we (empire-db) also did not receive a notification.
 
  Cheers,
  Francis
 
  On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Hyrum K. Wright
  hyrum_wri...@mail.utexas.edu wrote:
 
  On Jan 18, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com
 wrote:
  Missing:
 
         Subversion
 
  Hmm.  Something went wrong with the automated notifier as this ball
  got dropped, I guess.  Subversion should have something submitted
 by
  this evening.  -- justin
 
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Re: Missing reports due NOW

2010-01-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
AFAIK those were added after 1 januari (6 januari iirc), which is when
the notice was sent out.

Martijn

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 Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 7:24 PM
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 Subject: Re: Missing reports due NOW

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 Or no 'active' moderators, these are listed as mods for the dev list.


 francisdb
 doebele
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 Gav...


 Martijn

 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Francis De Brabandere
 franci...@gmail.com wrote:
  As far as I know we (empire-db) also did not receive a notification.
 
  Cheers,
  Francis
 
  On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Hyrum K. Wright
  hyrum_wri...@mail.utexas.edu wrote:
 
  On Jan 18, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com
 wrote:
  Missing:
 
         Subversion
 
  Hmm.  Something went wrong with the automated notifier as this ball
  got dropped, I guess.  Subversion should have something submitted
 by
  this evening.  -- justin
 
  The automated notifier (Marvin?) sent it's notification on Jan. 1,
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Re: Missing reports due NOW

2010-01-19 Thread jean-frederic clere
On 01/19/2010 10:57 AM, Gav... wrote:
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martijn Dashorst [mailto:martijn.dasho...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 7:24 PM
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Missing reports due NOW

 The notification was sent but got stuck in moderation with no
 moderator for the dev@ list.
 
 Or no 'active' moderators, these are listed as mods for the dev list.
 
 
 francisdb
 doebele
 reiher

Add me.

Cheers

Jean-Frederic

 
 Gav...
 

 Martijn

 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Francis De Brabandere
 franci...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as I know we (empire-db) also did not receive a notification.

 Cheers,
 Francis

 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Hyrum K. Wright
 hyrum_wri...@mail.utexas.edu wrote:

 On Jan 18, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com
 wrote:
 Missing:

Subversion

 Hmm.  Something went wrong with the automated notifier as this ball
 got dropped, I guess.  Subversion should have something submitted
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 The automated notifier (Marvin?) sent it's notification on Jan. 1,
 and it was promptly missed in all the post-holiday revelry.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept OODT for Incubation

2010-01-19 Thread Ross Gardler

On 18/01/2010 20:17, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

Per the previous proposal that was sent to gene...@incubator, I'd like
to now call a vote for accepting OODT into the Incubator.


[X] +1 - Accept OODT into the Incubator

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Fwd: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)

2010-01-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Forwarding to Incubator PMC, your votes are welcome (and sorry about
re-voting...we at ESME changed our minds slightly)

-- Forwarded message --
From: Anne Kathrine Petterøe yoji...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM
Subject: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
To: esme-...@incubator.apache.org


PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright
issue ESME-47.

1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each source file:
/* Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more
 * contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file distributed with
 * this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership.
 * The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0
 * (the License); you may not use this file except in compliance with
 * the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at *
 * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 *
 * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
 * distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS,
 * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
 * See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
 * limitations under the License. */

2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only
in files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists,
except any files where user dpp has not made any contribution):
/* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */

3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added:
Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation.
This product includes software developed at The Apache Software
Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).


For details, please see this legal-discuss mailing list thread:
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Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)

2010-01-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
(ccing both lists now..)

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
yoji...@gmail.com wrote:
 PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue 
 ESME-47.

+1 on what's suggested below (IPMC binding)
-Bertrand



 1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each source 
 file:
 /* Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more
  * contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file distributed with
  * this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership.
  * The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0
  * (the License); you may not use this file except in compliance with
  * the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at *
  * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 *
  * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
  * distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS,
  * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
  * See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
  * limitations under the License. */

 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in 
 files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except any 
 files where user dpp has not made any contribution):
 /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */

 3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added:
 Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation.
 This product includes software developed at The Apache Software Foundation 
 (http://www.apache.org/).


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Re: Fwd: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)

2010-01-19 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me

-- dims

On 01/19/2010 06:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 Forwarding to Incubator PMC, your votes are welcome (and sorry about
 re-voting...we at ESME changed our minds slightly)
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Anne Kathrine Petterøe yoji...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM
 Subject: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
 To: esme-...@incubator.apache.org
 
 
 PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright
 issue ESME-47.
 
 1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each source 
 file:
 /* Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more
  * contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file distributed with
  * this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership.
  * The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0
  * (the License); you may not use this file except in compliance with
  * the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at *
  * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 *
  * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
  * distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS,
  * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
  * See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
  * limitations under the License. */
 
 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only
 in files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists,
 except any files where user dpp has not made any contribution):
 /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */
 
 3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added:
 Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation.
 This product includes software developed at The Apache Software
 Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
 
 
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Re: Missing reports due NOW

2010-01-19 Thread Francis De Brabandere
can I as a new mod see what messages are still in the mod queue?

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:02 AM, jean-frederic clere jfcl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 01/19/2010 10:57 AM, Gav... wrote:


 -Original Message-
 From: Martijn Dashorst [mailto:martijn.dasho...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 2010 7:24 PM
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Missing reports due NOW

 The notification was sent but got stuck in moderation with no
 moderator for the dev@ list.

 Or no 'active' moderators, these are listed as mods for the dev list.


 francisdb
 doebele
 reiher

 Add me.

 Cheers

 Jean-Frederic


 Gav...


 Martijn

 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Francis De Brabandere
 franci...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as I know we (empire-db) also did not receive a notification.

 Cheers,
 Francis

 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Hyrum K. Wright
 hyrum_wri...@mail.utexas.edu wrote:

 On Jan 18, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com
 wrote:
 Missing:

        Subversion

 Hmm.  Something went wrong with the automated notifier as this ball
 got dropped, I guess.  Subversion should have something submitted
 by
 this evening.  -- justin

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Re: Missing reports due NOW

2010-01-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Francis De Brabandere
franci...@gmail.com wrote:
 can I as a new mod see what messages are still in the mod queue?

I don't know the command and if it is possible. I do know that the
marvin messages have expired already (they do so after a week iirc).

You can read more about ezml here [1]. Page 40 and on contain stuff
about moderation.

Martijn

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Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)

2010-01-19 Thread Anne Kathrine Petterøe
Not my day for multi-tasking apparently, sorry...
Apache ESME of course.

+1


On 19 Jan, 2010, at 12:25 , Richard Hirsch wrote:

 The NOTICE should say Apache ESME instead of Apache Foo
 
 +1
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
 bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 (ccing both lists now..)
 
 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
 yoji...@gmail.com wrote:
 PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue 
 ESME-47.
 
 +1 on what's suggested below (IPMC binding)
 -Bertrand
 
 
 
 1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each source 
 file:
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  * this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership.
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  * (the License); you may not use this file except in compliance with
  * the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at *
  * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 *
  * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
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  * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
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 This product includes software developed at The Apache Software Foundation 
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Re: [VOTE] Accept OODT for Incubation

2010-01-19 Thread Luciano Resende
[X] +1 - Accept OODT into the Incubator

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Re: [Discuss] Apache Cassandra as a TLP

2010-01-19 Thread Matthieu Riou
The relative smallness of the PMC is more a result of Cassandra's history I
think. They've started really small (basically one active committer) and
added committers gradually. Those committers have been elected in the PPMC
usually one to two months after their election, you can check the archives.
The pace has been accelerating lately so a few committers are in the
pipeline for PMC. I wouldn't read any more than that in the PMC size. For
the record, my first PPMC (ODE) was elected with more names but the same
amount of active ones. And that was a bit painful, a tight PMC will help
them get a quicker vote turnaround.

That being said, I've already mentioned on Cassandra's mailing lists that
I'd be sticking around a little longer as a member. If you see that it would
facilitate things, I'd be happy to do it as a PMC member as well.

Thanks,
Matthieu

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:00 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 I echo Matthieu's comments about Cassandra being ready to graduate,
 I'll vote +1 for it in a vote. Not sure if that PMC list is actually
 the complete list as I thought there was talk of adding others, i'll
 ask about it on their private list.

   ...ant

 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
  bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Matthieu Riou matthieu.r...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  ...By the way if you have a few minutes, some feedback about the
 resolution
  that Eric attached would be cool...
 
  The resolution looks good to me, but the proposed PMC is really small:
 
  * Jonathan Ellisjbel...@apache.org
  * Eric Evanseev...@apache.org
  * Jun Rao   jun...@apache.org
  * Chris Goffinetgoffi...@apache.org
 
  And all of its members are currently active in Cassandra only.
 
  Would it be possible for (some of) the mentors to stay onboard for a
 while?
  With only 4 PMC members to start with, the risk of being unable to get
  3 votes on issues is real.
 
  that's a good point, Bertrand. Those that are involved in other
  communities are the
  mentors, like Torsten, Matthieu or Brian (according to [1]). Looks like
 the only
  exception is Johan Oskarsson, but I am not to familiar with the
  community itself
  and its activity. However I noted that Johan voted for the graduation...
 
  I am also not sure why the proposed PMC is that small. Some try to expand
  their PPMC during incubation with all the active folks (mailings and
 commits).
  So, I am not sure on the reason why there is this small (P)PMC.
 
  -Matthias
 
  [1] 
  http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.htmlhttp://people.apache.org/%7Ejim/committers.html
 
 
  -Bertrand
 
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Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)

2010-01-19 Thread Daniel Kulp

+1

Let's get this finalized and move on.

Dan


On Tue January 19 2010 6:17:16 am Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 (ccing both lists now..)
 
 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
 
 yoji...@gmail.com wrote:
  PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue
  ESME-47.
 
 +1 on what's suggested below (IPMC binding)
 -Bertrand
 
  1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each source
  file: /* Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or
  more * contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file distributed
  with * this work for additional information regarding copyright
  ownership. * The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License,
  Version 2.0 * (the License); you may not use this file except in
  compliance with * the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at *
   * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 *
   * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
   * distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS,
   * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or
  implied. * See the License for the specific language governing
  permissions and * limitations under the License. */
 
  2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in
  files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except
  any files where user dpp has not made any contribution): /* * Portions
  Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */
 
  3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added:
  Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation.
  This product includes software developed at The Apache Software
  Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
 
 
  For details, please see this legal-discuss mailing list thread:
  http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201001.mbox/%3
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Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)

2010-01-19 Thread Anne Kathrine Petterøe
Robert,

We have already had a lengthy discussion on legal-discuss:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201001.mbox/thread
Look for the Committer refuses to remove copyright notices in source 
(ESME-47),how best to solve?  thread.

I am not sure if this is the same list as the legal-private list you mention?

The text in this vote is a suggestion from William Rowe:
http://markmail.org/message/q6yweleer2voqvd3
(which no one on the legal-list objected to)

/Anne
 
On 19 Jan, 2010, at 17:51 , Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
 yoji...@gmail.com wrote:
 PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue 
 ESME-47.
 
 snip
 
 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in 
 files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except any 
 files where user dpp has not made any contribution):
 /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */
 
 ipmc-hatlegal-hatianal
 
 if this language has not been cleared with our lawyers on legal-private then :
 
 * i'm -1 on this phrasing
 * please raise a legal JIRA for appropriate language
 
 /ianal/legal-hat/ipmc-hat
 
 the reason for this veto is that i believe that this phrasing is
 
 1. potentially untrue
 
 for example, if at some future time someone decides to revert all the
 relevant commits - or in time the code is so extensively revised then
 no portions of the code will be subject to that copyright and the
 statement will be untrue.
 
 2. potentially dangerous
 
 for example it could be read as a claim rather than a statement
 
 
 AIUI (please jump in if i'm wrong) some source files was derived from
 originals that contained the notice Copyright 2009 WorldWide
 Conferencing, LLC. something along the lines below seems to me more
 truthful:
 
 /*
 * This document was derived from an original containing the following
 copyright notice:
 *
 * Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC
 *
 */
 
 but IMO this is a job for a lawyer
 
 - robert



Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)

2010-01-19 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

+1

Daniel Kulp wrote:

+1

Let's get this finalized and move on.

Dan


On Tue January 19 2010 6:17:16 am Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

(ccing both lists now..)

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe

yoji...@gmail.com wrote:

PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue
ESME-47.

+1 on what's suggested below (IPMC binding)
-Bertrand


1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each source
file: /* Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or
more * contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file distributed
with * this work for additional information regarding copyright
ownership. * The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License,
Version 2.0 * (the License); you may not use this file except in
compliance with * the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at *
 * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 *
 * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
 * distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS,
 * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or
implied. * See the License for the specific language governing
permissions and * limitations under the License. */

2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in
files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except
any files where user dpp has not made any contribution): /* * Portions
Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */

3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added:
Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation.
This product includes software developed at The Apache Software
Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).


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Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)

2010-01-19 Thread Ralph Goers

On Jan 19, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
 yoji...@gmail.com wrote:
 PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue 
 ESME-47.
 
 snip
 
 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in 
 files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except any 
 files where user dpp has not made any contribution):
 /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */
 
 ipmc-hatlegal-hatianal
 
 if this language has not been cleared with our lawyers on legal-private then :
 
 * i'm -1 on this phrasing
 * please raise a legal JIRA for appropriate language
 

As others have said, this has been discussed at length on legal-discuss. The 
lawyers have expressed their opinion (that it mostly doesn't matter).  I 
think requesting a Jira issue for this is a bad idea because a) it is highly 
unlikely that the result will be different and b) legal Jira issues aren't 
noted for being resolved quickly and c) Jira issues are resolved by lawyers.

I suggest you review the thread that was provided and then see if you want to 
reconsider your veto.

Ralph
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Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)

2010-01-19 Thread Craig L Russell

+1

Craig

On Jan 19, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:



This issue was discussed extensively on legal-discuss, this proposal  
matches my understanding of the consensus opinion reached there.


Here's my +1 (IPMC binding)

--kevan

On Jan 19, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:


(ccing both lists now..)

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
yoji...@gmail.com wrote:
PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright  
issue ESME-47.


+1 on what's suggested below (IPMC binding)
-Bertrand




1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each  
source file:
/* Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or  
more
* contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file distributed  
with
* this work for additional information regarding copyright  
ownership.
* The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License,  
Version 2.0
* (the License); you may not use this file except in compliance  
with

* the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at *
* http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 *
* Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing,  
software

* distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS,
* WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or  
implied.
* See the License for the specific language governing permissions  
and

* limitations under the License. */

2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment  
(Only in files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently  
exists, except any files where user dpp has not made any  
contribution):

/* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */

3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added:
Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software  
Foundation.
This product includes software developed at The Apache Software  
Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).



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[VOTE] release cassandra 0.5.0 (final)

2010-01-19 Thread Eric Evans
The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache
Cassandra 0.5.0. We would now like to request the approval of the
Incubator PMC for this release.

Cassandra is a massively scalable, eventually consistent, distributed,
structured key-value store.

Podling vote thread: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.devel/811
0.5.0 artifacts: http://people.apache.org/~eevans
SVN tag:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/cassandra/tags/cassandra-0.5.0
Project home: http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra/
Incubation status: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cassandra.html

We received three (IPMC )binding votes[1][2][3] during the poddling vote,
but help with artifact review is always welcome. 

The vote will remain open for 72 hours.

Regards,


[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.devel/814
[2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.devel/820
[3] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.devel/825

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Re: [VOTE] Accept OODT for Incubation

2010-01-19 Thread Alan D. Cabrera

+1

Regards,
Alan

On Jan 18, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:


Per the previous proposal that was sent to gene...@incubator, I'd like
to now call a vote for accepting OODT into the Incubator.

[ ] +1 - Accept OODT into the Incubator
[ ] -1 - Do not accept OODT into the Incubator (rationale strongly  
desired!)


Per the proposal below, the mentors for this proposal are myself,
Ross, Jean-Frederic, and Ian.

Unless there are any extenuating circumstances, I will close this vote
on Thursday morning, January 21.

Thanks.  -- justin

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OODTProposal

OODT, a grid middleware framework for science data processing,
information integration, and retrieval.

Abstract

OODT is a grid middleware framework used on a number of successful
projects at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory/California Institute of
Technology, and many other research institutions and universities,
specifically those part of the:

National Cancer Institute's (NCI's) Early Detection Research Network
(EDRN) project - over 40+ institutions all performing research into
discovering biomarkers which are early indicators of disease.

NASA's Planetary Data System (PDS) - NASA's planetary data archive, a
repository and registry for all planetary data collected over the past
30+ years.

various Earth Science data processing missions, including
Seawinds/QuickSCAT, the Orbiting Carbon Observatory, the NPP Sounder
PEATE project, and the Soil Moisture Active Passive (SMAP) mission.

From the OODT website:

It's middleware for metadata:

Transparent access to distributed resources
Data discovery and query optimization
Distributed processing and virtual archives

It's a software architecture:

Models for information representation
Solutions to knowledge capture problems
Unification of technology, data, and metadata

Proposal

OODT is an established open source project, with 9+ years of
existence, and deployment at universities, federal research
institutions, other NASA centers, and the NIH (it won runner-up NASA
software of the year in 2003). It has a strong community of those that
operate and support its growth. Our proposal is to bring OODT into
Apache to strengthen its support and its capabilities even further on
the laurels of Apache's brand and its growing huge community of
developers from all over the world. In short, bringing OODT into
Apache will significantly enhance OODT's widespread use, will likely
improve its codebase, and furthermore will help Apache philosophy and
community spread into OODT's already large community-base reaching
across government, academia and industry.

OODT will be, to the best of our knowledge, the first grid community
project to bear the Apache brand. By grid technology, we mean a
technology that provides the ability to create virtual organizations,
as originally described by Kesselman and Foster in their seminal paper
on grid computing. OODT provides both computational and data grid
support, and is built with a component-philosophy. OODT includes
components that allow for virtual information integration across
organizations (provided by the Profile, Product and Query server
components), and that allow for distributed data management and
processing across heterogeneous virtual organizations (provided by the
Catalog and Archive Service set of components, including File Manager,
Workflow Manager and Resource Manager).

Each set of components exist as independently organized Maven2
projects, that reference each other (where appropriate), forming a
layered set of components and a framework for grid computing.

Background

OODT is an established project within JPL and in use at several NASA
centers, as well as univerities, and other government organizations
and industrial collaborations. Chris Mattmann, a JPL employee, and ASF
PMC (Lucene) and Committer (Nutch, Tika), has been working for the
past 2 years on obtaining the necessary permission from JPL to release
OODT into Apache. After initially being stalled, JPL has granted
permission to allow OODT into Apache.

Through his academic relationship with Justin Erekrantz, Apache
President, and through their collective Ph.D. studies, OODT has been
discussed between Chris and Justin on several occasions, and Justin
offered to help champion OODT into the Apache Incubator when JPL was
ready to release OODT. In December 2009, that permission was granted.

This proposal is the result of the above efforts and related
discussions. Some alternatives to incubation, like Apache Labs came up
during the discussions but we believe that taking the project to the
Incubator is the best way to start growing a viable Apache-based
community to sustain OODT. Furthermore, given its larger code base and
existing sub-projects, the goal would be for OODT to leverage the
incubator to graduate into Apache's first top-level grid project,
rather than graduate into a sub-project of an existing TLP.

Rationale

Grid computing has been around for the past 10 years and 

Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)

2010-01-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
 ...I suggest you review the thread that was provided and then see if you want 
 to reconsider your veto

As this vote is not about a technical issue, I don't think there are
vetos - we should have explicitely specified that this is a majority
vote.

Robert and Gianugo, did you mean to veto this with your -1s, or just
express your disagreement with the majority?

-Bertrand

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