Re: December reporting: All Mentors Please Sign Off and general note

2012-12-02 Thread Upayavira
Yes, true, but any invitation to communicate such difficulties is
welcome IMO.

Upayavira

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012, at 02:37 AM, Tim Williams wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  First of several reminders:
 
  For podlings reporting in December, we'd like *all* mentors to sign
  off on the reports. I hope to use this to get a clearer picture of
  where we have mentor weaknesses.
 
  General note: if you are a PPMC member or mentor, and you feel that
  your community is undersupplied with Mentor attention (e.g., you have
  trouble getting votes for releases), please start a thread here.
 
 The report is meant to communicate this sort of health info...
 
 --tim
 
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate OpenMeetings from Incubator

2012-12-02 Thread Ross Gardler
+1

Sent from my tablet
On Dec 2, 2012 6:51 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear Incubation members,

 During incubation, OpenMeetings has :
  * Produced 1 Release
  * Added 5 new Committer/PPMC members and shows constant community
 activities
  * Cleared IP on all code
  * Developed Roadmap(s) for the next major and minor releases in a
 community process and started working on that

 Given these accomplishments, I propose that we submit the following
 graduation resolution to the incubator PMC.
 We organized already a community vote:
 http://markmail.org/thread/wnxvkvukdqgdddpn

 The vote received:
 1x +1 Yegor IPMC
 5x +1 solomax, aaf, sebawagner, greenes PMC
 1x +1 Irina

 Please VOTE over the next 72 hours on the resolution below:

 [ ] +1 Graduate OpenMeetings from the Incubator per the resolution below.
 [ ] +0 Don't care.
 [ ] -1 Don't graduate OpenMeetings from the Incubator because:

 =
 Charter here:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Draft+Charter

 and copied below:
 X. Establish the Apache OpenMeetings Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
the public, related to OpenMeetings Web-Conferencing tool.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache OpenMeetings Project,
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenMeetings Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to the OpenMeetings Web-Conferencing tool;
and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache OpenMeetings
 be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache OpenMeetings Project, and to have primary
 responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache OpenMeetings Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache OpenMeetings Project:

  * Alexei Fedotova...@apache.org
  * Sebastian Wagner  sebawag...@apache.org
  * Maxim Solodovnik  solo...@apache.org
  * Oliver Becherer  smoe...@apache.org
  * Rodion Volkovrc...@apache.org
  * Eugen Schwert   eschw...@apache.org
  * German Grekhovggrek...@apache.org
  * Timur Tleukenov ti...@apache.org
  * Alvaro Bustos Ruiz  al...@apache.org
  * George Kirkham  gkirk...@apache.org
  * Stephen Cotthammegatroni...@apache.org
  * Sascha Xander   sxan...@apache.org
  * Evgeny Rovinskyrovin...@apache.org

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Sebastian Wagner
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache OpenMeetings,
 to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache OpenMeetings PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache OpenMeetings Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenMeetings Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator OpenMeetings podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator OpenMeetings podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.



Re: [VOTE] Graduate OpenMeetings from Incubator

2012-12-02 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
+1
On Dec 2, 2012 1:51 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear Incubation members,

 During incubation, OpenMeetings has :
  * Produced 1 Release
  * Added 5 new Committer/PPMC members and shows constant community
 activities
  * Cleared IP on all code
  * Developed Roadmap(s) for the next major and minor releases in a
 community process and started working on that

 Given these accomplishments, I propose that we submit the following
 graduation resolution to the incubator PMC.
 We organized already a community vote:
 http://markmail.org/thread/wnxvkvukdqgdddpn

 The vote received:
 1x +1 Yegor IPMC
 5x +1 solomax, aaf, sebawagner, greenes PMC
 1x +1 Irina

 Please VOTE over the next 72 hours on the resolution below:

 [ ] +1 Graduate OpenMeetings from the Incubator per the resolution below.
 [ ] +0 Don't care.
 [ ] -1 Don't graduate OpenMeetings from the Incubator because:

 =
 Charter here:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Draft+Charter

 and copied below:
 X. Establish the Apache OpenMeetings Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
the public, related to OpenMeetings Web-Conferencing tool.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache OpenMeetings Project,
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenMeetings Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to the OpenMeetings Web-Conferencing tool;
and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache OpenMeetings
 be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache OpenMeetings Project, and to have primary
 responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache OpenMeetings Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache OpenMeetings Project:

  * Alexei Fedotova...@apache.org
  * Sebastian Wagner  sebawag...@apache.org
  * Maxim Solodovnik  solo...@apache.org
  * Oliver Becherer  smoe...@apache.org
  * Rodion Volkovrc...@apache.org
  * Eugen Schwert   eschw...@apache.org
  * German Grekhovggrek...@apache.org
  * Timur Tleukenov ti...@apache.org
  * Alvaro Bustos Ruiz  al...@apache.org
  * George Kirkham  gkirk...@apache.org
  * Stephen Cotthammegatroni...@apache.org
  * Sascha Xander   sxan...@apache.org
  * Evgeny Rovinskyrovin...@apache.org

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Sebastian Wagner
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache OpenMeetings,
 to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache OpenMeetings PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache OpenMeetings Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenMeetings Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator OpenMeetings podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator OpenMeetings podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.



Re: Incubator report reminders sent for Dec 2012

2012-12-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 07:20:35PM +0100, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
 I miss Onami and Ripple from the reminders.
 

Helix and HDT are also missing; these four are all set up as
${podling}.incubator.apache.org - related?

 But they are listed here:
 http://incubator.apache.org/report-next-month.html#onami
 
 What do I need to fix to get these reminders?
 I just know the old wiki-styled process
 
 
 On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Marvin no-re...@apache.org wrote:
 
 
  The next board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 PST.
 
  I have just sent reminder emails to the below addresses, requesting them
  to supply board reports 2 weeks before the above date (Wed, Dec 5th).
 
  Please recall that the Incubator report is due Wed, Dec 12th.
 
  Allura Developers   allura-...@incubator.apache.org
  Bloodhound Developers   bloodhound-...@incubator.apache.org
  Blur Developers blur-...@incubator.apache.org
  cTAKES Developers   ctakes-...@incubator.apache.org
  Drill Developersdrill-...@incubator.apache.org
  Etch Developers etch-...@incubator.apache.org
  Flex Developers flex-...@incubator.apache.org
  Hadoop Development Tools Developers 
  general@incubator.apache.org
  HCatalog Developers hcatalog-...@incubator.apache.org
  Kalumet Developers  kalumet-...@incubator.apache.org
  Openmeetings Developers openmeetings-...@incubator.apache.org
  S4 Developers   s4-...@incubator.apache.org
  Wave Developers wave-...@incubator.apache.org
 
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Incubator PMC/Board report for Dec 2012 ([ppmc])

2012-12-02 Thread Marvin


Dear podling,

This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator 
PMC.
It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
board report.

The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 PST. The 
report 
for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator 
PMC 
requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to allow 
sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Dec 5th).

Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and 
subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you 
should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.

Thanks,

The Apache Incubator PMC

Submitting your Report
--

Your report should contain the following:

 * Your project name
 * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the 
project
   or necessarily of its field
 * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards 
   graduation.
 * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
 * How has the community developed since the last report
 * How has the project developed since the last report.
 
This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2012

Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
  created from a template.

Mentors
---
Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the 
Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the 
project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.

Incubator PMC


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Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-12-02 Thread Henk P. Penning

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:


Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:05:15 +0100
From: Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org
To: general@incubator.apache.org, infrastruct...@apache.org
Subject: Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums
Sender: shaposh...@gmail.com



On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:50 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:

Personally, I find it difficult to verify the GPG generated checksums.


Ditto. It's particularly awkward when the hash is wrapped over several lines.

I ended up writing a Perl script to handle all the variations.


If I'm not alone perhaps we should discourage the use of this
format and modify the release FAQ page.


+1


Question: how do we go about discouraging it then? Do we need a vote
to modify the content of:
   http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing#md5


  I assume 'it' is md5 cheksum files generated with

gpg --print-md MD5 [fileName]  [fileName].md5

  I am +1 on suggesting (on that page) a 'normal' form for
  the content of a .md5 file.

  I am definitedly -1 on removing the gpg line above, or
  suggesting that only one form of .md5 files is allowed.

  The reason given I ended up writing a Perl script doesn't
  make sense ; .md5 files come in many forms but the algorithm
  to verify is the same for all of them (there are no 'variations.') :

verify (checksum md5, .md5-file fff) :
  -- tmp = lowercase cat fff
  -- md5 = lowercase cat md5
  -- squeeze non-hex ([^a-f0-9]) out of tmp (and md5)
  -- match md5 ~ tmp

  HPP

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Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
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Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-12-02 Thread Mark Thomas


Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:

+infra

Ping! I would really like this annoyance to be resolved one way or the
other.
Could somebody more experienced with Apache web properties answer
the question?


 Question: how do we go about discouraging it then? Do we need a vote
 to modify the content of:
http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing#md5

 Or even more basic question -- where's the source for that
 webpage?


No vote is required to change that web page. Those pages are infra owned but 
any member can change them.

Since infra owns the page, it would be polite to suggest the alternative text 
on infrastructure@. Once that is agreed, any member can apply it.

With my infra hat on, I have no objection to standardising on the md5sum format 
for MD5 checksums.

A couple of side issues:
Firstly, you removed far to much context when adding infra to the thread. I had 
to go digging through the archives to figure out what the problem was.

Secondly, votes are not the way to drive change. Discussion is.

The process is not:
- see an issue
- pick a solution
- start a vote for implementing that solution
- drive through the change

but:
- see an issue
- discuss options to fix it
- agree the way forward (consensus)
- make the change

Releases and new committers are pretty much the only time I'd expect to see 
votes in an Apache community.

Mark

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Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-12-02 Thread Jake Farrell
That page is part of the 
Apache CMS and ASF members can edit that page by using the following 
http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#usage. Non ASF members can create a 
ticket within jira under the infra project and attach a patch for the 
changes they would like to make. 

The repo and file you are looking for is 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/content/dev/release-signing.mdtext

-Jake


   	   
   	Roman Shaposhnik  
  November 29, 2012
 9:05 PM
  +infra

Ping! I would really like this annoyance to be resolved one way or the other.
Could somebody more experienced with Apache web properties answer
the question?


Question: how do we go about discouraging it then? Do we need a vote
to modify the content of:
   http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing#md5

Or even more basic question -- where's the source for that
webpage?


Thanks,
Roman.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:50 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
Personally, I find it difficult to verify the GPG generated checksums.
Ditto. It's particularly awkward when the hash is wrapped over several lines.

I ended up writing a Perl script to handle all the variations.

If I'm not alone perhaps we should discourage the use of this
format and modify the release FAQ page.
+1
Question: how do we go about discouraging it then? Do we need a vote
to modify the content of:
   http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing#md5

Or even more basic question -- where's the source for that
webpage?

Thanks,
Roman.





Re: Incubator report reminders sent for Dec 2012

2012-12-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Daniel Shahaf danie...@apache.org wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 07:20:35PM +0100, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
 I miss Onami and Ripple from the reminders.


 Helix and HDT are also missing; these four are all set up as
 ${podling}.incubator.apache.org - related?

Yes, I think so too. Davids e-mail indicated something like that. I
have just looked at
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1400367
but could not see anything of interested (for this case). But this is
related to my lack of python knowledge.

It seems some sorts of files like:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/report_due_3.txt

are generated by clutch and then later used by Marvin (I really don't
know anything about this tool) to send out the reminders.
That said, HDT, Ripple, Onami and Helix all have a wrong recipient
address in this file. So my idea is that we need to find
out how Clutch extracts the recipient address of the podling and fix
either the source of it or the alogrithm in clutch.


 But they are listed here:
 http://incubator.apache.org/report-next-month.html#onami

 What do I need to fix to get these reminders?
 I just know the old wiki-styled process


 On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Marvin no-re...@apache.org wrote:
 
 
  The next board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 
  PST.
 
  I have just sent reminder emails to the below addresses, requesting them
  to supply board reports 2 weeks before the above date (Wed, Dec 5th).
 
  Please recall that the Incubator report is due Wed, Dec 12th.
 
  Allura Developers   allura-...@incubator.apache.org
  Bloodhound Developers   bloodhound-...@incubator.apache.org
  Blur Developers blur-...@incubator.apache.org
  cTAKES Developers   ctakes-...@incubator.apache.org
  Drill Developersdrill-...@incubator.apache.org
  Etch Developers etch-...@incubator.apache.org
  Flex Developers flex-...@incubator.apache.org
  Hadoop Development Tools Developers 
  general@incubator.apache.org
  HCatalog Developers hcatalog-...@incubator.apache.org
  Kalumet Developers  kalumet-...@incubator.apache.org
  Openmeetings Developers openmeetings-...@incubator.apache.org
  S4 Developers   s4-...@incubator.apache.org
  Wave Developers wave-...@incubator.apache.org
 
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate OpenMeetings from Incubator

2012-12-02 Thread Yegor Kozlov
+1 (mentor)

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 10:50 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com
seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Incubation members,

 During incubation, OpenMeetings has :
  * Produced 1 Release
  * Added 5 new Committer/PPMC members and shows constant community
 activities
  * Cleared IP on all code
  * Developed Roadmap(s) for the next major and minor releases in a
 community process and started working on that

 Given these accomplishments, I propose that we submit the following
 graduation resolution to the incubator PMC.
 We organized already a community vote:
 http://markmail.org/thread/wnxvkvukdqgdddpn

 The vote received:
 1x +1 Yegor IPMC
 5x +1 solomax, aaf, sebawagner, greenes PMC
 1x +1 Irina

 Please VOTE over the next 72 hours on the resolution below:

 [ ] +1 Graduate OpenMeetings from the Incubator per the resolution below.
 [ ] +0 Don't care.
 [ ] -1 Don't graduate OpenMeetings from the Incubator because:

 =
 Charter here:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Draft+Charter

 and copied below:
 X. Establish the Apache OpenMeetings Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
the public, related to OpenMeetings Web-Conferencing tool.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache OpenMeetings Project,
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenMeetings Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to the OpenMeetings Web-Conferencing tool;
and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache OpenMeetings be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache OpenMeetings Project, and to have primary
 responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache OpenMeetings Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache OpenMeetings Project:

  * Alexei Fedotova...@apache.org
  * Sebastian Wagner  sebawag...@apache.org
  * Maxim Solodovnik  solo...@apache.org
  * Oliver Becherer  smoe...@apache.org
  * Rodion Volkovrc...@apache.org
  * Eugen Schwert   eschw...@apache.org
  * German Grekhovggrek...@apache.org
  * Timur Tleukenov ti...@apache.org
  * Alvaro Bustos Ruiz  al...@apache.org
  * George Kirkham  gkirk...@apache.org
  * Stephen Cotthammegatroni...@apache.org
  * Sascha Xander   sxan...@apache.org
  * Evgeny Rovinskyrovin...@apache.org

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Sebastian Wagner
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache OpenMeetings, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache OpenMeetings PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache OpenMeetings Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenMeetings Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator OpenMeetings podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator OpenMeetings podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate OpenMeetings from Incubator

2012-12-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 (IPMC)

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:50 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com
seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Incubation members,

 During incubation, OpenMeetings has :
  * Produced 1 Release
  * Added 5 new Committer/PPMC members and shows constant community
 activities
  * Cleared IP on all code
  * Developed Roadmap(s) for the next major and minor releases in a
 community process and started working on that

 Given these accomplishments, I propose that we submit the following
 graduation resolution to the incubator PMC.
 We organized already a community vote:
 http://markmail.org/thread/wnxvkvukdqgdddpn

 The vote received:
 1x +1 Yegor IPMC
 5x +1 solomax, aaf, sebawagner, greenes PMC
 1x +1 Irina

 Please VOTE over the next 72 hours on the resolution below:

 [ ] +1 Graduate OpenMeetings from the Incubator per the resolution below.
 [ ] +0 Don't care.
 [ ] -1 Don't graduate OpenMeetings from the Incubator because:

 =
 Charter here:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Draft+Charter

 and copied below:
 X. Establish the Apache OpenMeetings Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
the public, related to OpenMeetings Web-Conferencing tool.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache OpenMeetings Project,
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenMeetings Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to the OpenMeetings Web-Conferencing tool;
and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache OpenMeetings be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache OpenMeetings Project, and to have primary
 responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache OpenMeetings Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache OpenMeetings Project:

  * Alexei Fedotova...@apache.org
  * Sebastian Wagner  sebawag...@apache.org
  * Maxim Solodovnik  solo...@apache.org
  * Oliver Becherer  smoe...@apache.org
  * Rodion Volkovrc...@apache.org
  * Eugen Schwert   eschw...@apache.org
  * German Grekhovggrek...@apache.org
  * Timur Tleukenov ti...@apache.org
  * Alvaro Bustos Ruiz  al...@apache.org
  * George Kirkham  gkirk...@apache.org
  * Stephen Cotthammegatroni...@apache.org
  * Sascha Xander   sxan...@apache.org
  * Evgeny Rovinskyrovin...@apache.org

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Sebastian Wagner
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache OpenMeetings, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache OpenMeetings PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache OpenMeetings Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenMeetings Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator OpenMeetings podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator OpenMeetings podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.



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Re: Incubator report reminders sent for Dec 2012

2012-12-02 Thread Benson Margulies
You supplied the critical information; it's supposed to all flow from
the clutch, there are no other manually maintained files.

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:05 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
 Benson Margulies wrote:
 Can you point to some maintenance instructions for all of this?

 Sorry i do not have time to find them right now,
 but it has been explained to this list on various
 occasions so should be in the archives. We do need to
 have better docs, so that we do not all forget, me included.

 The main data file is now content/podlings.xml
 Clutch parses that, gets other hints from each project
 status page, checks that the podling's mail lists are
 established and operating, then generates the report
 lists of dev addresses.
 http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#notes
 http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#data

 I think that i can see the glitch reported today.
 Recently the setup of new projects mail lists infra
 procedure changed. I immediately followed up an tweaked
 Clutch to handle that. However it seems that the writing
 of the report_due_[1-3].txt data files (which 'marvin'
 uses to send the reminders) is not quite right.
 Sorry no time to fix right now.
 See http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1400367

 The reporting web page lists are also generated from
 content/podlings.xml each time that data file changes.
 The CMS triggers and its Ant build uses some XSL in the
 top level of the incubator SVN.
 Some other stuff that we need to make more obvious:
 http://incubator.apache.org/report-next-month.html
 http://incubator.apache.org/report-groups.txt

 -David

 On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  Hmm maybe it is this file?
  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/report_due_3.txt
 
  Onami which is listed there does have a wrong dev@ address.
  Not sure why Marvin didn't report it
 
  On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  I'm embarassed to admit that I don't know either.
  http://incubator.apache.org/report-groups.txt looks right, what else
  needs to be done?
 
  On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  I miss Onami and Ripple from the reminders.
 
  But they are listed here:
  http://incubator.apache.org/report-next-month.html#onami
 
  What do I need to fix to get these reminders?
  I just know the old wiki-styled process
 
 
  On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Marvin no-re...@apache.org wrote:
 
 
  The next board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 December 2012, 10:00:00 
  PST.
 
  I have just sent reminder emails to the below addresses, requesting them
  to supply board reports 2 weeks before the above date (Wed, Dec 5th).
 
  Please recall that the Incubator report is due Wed, Dec 12th.
 
  Allura Developers   allura-...@incubator.apache.org
  Bloodhound Developers   bloodhound-...@incubator.apache.org
  Blur Developers blur-...@incubator.apache.org
  cTAKES Developers   ctakes-...@incubator.apache.org
  Drill Developersdrill-...@incubator.apache.org
  Etch Developers etch-...@incubator.apache.org
  Flex Developers flex-...@incubator.apache.org
  Hadoop Development Tools Developers 
  general@incubator.apache.org
  HCatalog Developers hcatalog-...@incubator.apache.org
  Kalumet Developers  kalumet-...@incubator.apache.org
  Openmeetings Developers openmeetings-...@incubator.apache.org
  S4 Developers   s4-...@incubator.apache.org
  Wave Developers wave-...@incubator.apache.org
 
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checking on the shepherd inventory (or, 3.14159 IPMC members ...)

2012-12-02 Thread Benson Margulies
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorShepherds is the official
list of willing shepherds.

I would be exceedingly grateful for additional volunteers here, and of
course of someone needs to leave the list, please edit yourself out.

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Re: checking on the shepherd inventory (or, 3.14159 IPMC members ...)

2012-12-02 Thread Suresh Marru
On Dec 2, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorShepherds is the official
 list of willing shepherds.
 
 I would be exceedingly grateful for additional volunteers here, and of
 course of someone needs to leave the list, please edit yourself out.

Hi Benson,

I added my name to the wiki, I will be willing to help as  needed. But if there 
is a choice, I prefer java based middleware, especially the big data, hadoop 
family of podlings.

Suresh

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Re: checking on the shepherd inventory (or, 3.14159 IPMC members ...)

2012-12-02 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:
 On Dec 2, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorShepherds is the official
 list of willing shepherds.

 I would be exceedingly grateful for additional volunteers here, and of
 course of someone needs to leave the list, please edit yourself out.

 Hi Benson,

 I added my name to the wiki, I will be willing to help as  needed. But if 
 there is a choice, I prefer java based middleware, especially the big data, 
 hadoop family of podlings.

Thank you very much Suresh, I have inventory in that area to point you at!


 Suresh

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Re: checking on the shepherd inventory (or, 3.14159 IPMC members ...)

2012-12-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Benson,

I liked that Jukka assigned me to random podlings as this exposes me to new 
ideas.

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:
 On Dec 2, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorShepherds is the official
 list of willing shepherds.
 
 I would be exceedingly grateful for additional volunteers here, and of
 course of someone needs to leave the list, please edit yourself out.
 
 Hi Benson,
 
 I added my name to the wiki, I will be willing to help as  needed. But if 
 there is a choice, I prefer java based middleware, especially the big data, 
 hadoop family of podlings.
 
 Thank you very much Suresh, I have inventory in that area to point you at!
 
 
 Suresh
 
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Re: Actively seeking for organic mentors

2012-12-02 Thread Alan Cabrera

On Dec 2, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

 By 'organic mentor', I mean a PPMC member who, while not an ASF
 member, has shown the necessary engagement and understanding to
 qualify as an IPMC member, and thus mentor and release voter.
 
 PPMC members who are also active in TLP communities are obvious
 candidates. We have, as well, inducted some people even if the PPMC is
 their first involvement at the ASF.
 
 I would ask all mentors, but especially mentors who are having trouble
 finding the time to be as engaged as they might like, to seek out and
 nominate PPMC members for membership in the IPMC.
 
 As a PMC, we will be want to much more than a rubber stamp,
 particularly in the second case. However, this is one of our best
 avenues to improve mentor coverage of projects
 
 In the next few months, I intend to send other messages focussed on
 podlings that have symptoms of mentor-deprivation, but I thought this
 might be a low-stress start.

Great idea.  May I suggest that this list of organic mentors be collected on 
private?


Regards,
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Re: Actively seeking for organic mentors

2012-12-02 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:

 On Dec 2, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

 By 'organic mentor', I mean a PPMC member who, while not an ASF
 member, has shown the necessary engagement and understanding to
 qualify as an IPMC member, and thus mentor and release voter.

 PPMC members who are also active in TLP communities are obvious
 candidates. We have, as well, inducted some people even if the PPMC is
 their first involvement at the ASF.

 I would ask all mentors, but especially mentors who are having trouble
 finding the time to be as engaged as they might like, to seek out and
 nominate PPMC members for membership in the IPMC.

 As a PMC, we will be want to much more than a rubber stamp,
 particularly in the second case. However, this is one of our best
 avenues to improve mentor coverage of projects

 In the next few months, I intend to send other messages focussed on
 podlings that have symptoms of mentor-deprivation, but I thought this
 might be a low-stress start.

 Great idea.  May I suggest that this list of organic mentors be collected on 
 private?

Yes, nominations for IPMC membership belong, I believe, on private.
I'm trying my best to be as public as possible, and than you for
pointing out the little line in the sand here.




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 Alan


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An idea for the clutch department

2012-12-02 Thread Benson Margulies
David,

I'm thinking about how to make clutch.py grab a description from each
project. I have two uses for this: first, if it were in the pkl
output, I could make a generator for reporting templates that included
the description. Second, if I were feeling silly, I could make it a
popup div on the lines of the clutch table.

It looks to me like the following xpath would yield the results I'm looking for:

section[@id='Description']/p/text()

Would you object to this idea? If not, off I go.

---benson

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Re: An idea for the clutch department

2012-12-02 Thread Benson Margulies
Sorry, I now see that there's a perfectly good description already
being picked up.

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 David,

 I'm thinking about how to make clutch.py grab a description from each
 project. I have two uses for this: first, if it were in the pkl
 output, I could make a generator for reporting templates that included
 the description. Second, if I were feeling silly, I could make it a
 popup div on the lines of the clutch table.

 It looks to me like the following xpath would yield the results I'm looking 
 for:

 section[@id='Description']/p/text()

 Would you object to this idea? If not, off I go.

 ---benson

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Karma for incubator wiki

2012-12-02 Thread Martin Veith
Could anybody please grant me write access to the incubator wiki, I need this 
to fill in the Etch report. My wiki id is MartinVeith.

Thanks,
Martin




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