Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-17 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
I'm not in favor of an Ombudsman. Seems like an extra layer of overhead beyond what the Chair already provides. Seriously does someone need a title in order to be the clearinghouse for folks' honest assessments of the Incubator, its personnel, or other sensitive issues? My 2c. Cheers, Chris +++

[RESULT] [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Mesos

2013-06-17 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
Hi Folks, OK, this VOTE has passed with the following tallies: +1 Chris Mattmann* Vinod Kone Benjamin Hindman Benjamin Mahler Yan Xiu Deepal Jayasinghe Brenden Matthews Matei Zaharia Ant Elder* Konstantin Boudnik Christian Grobmeier* Henry Saputra* Alex Karasulu* Roman Shaposhnik* Alan Cabrera*

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

2013-06-17 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > C'mon Marvin. The project has enough ASF committers on the initial > commiter list (ignoring mentors) to be able to conduct a committer > vote. > > Lets not add unnecessary bureaucracy during the initial set-up phase. Voting in a new committ

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-17 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Just curious, is the ombudsman not allowed to be a mentor for a podling? > Otherwise, that podling doesn't have a safe third-party? Good point. Podlings are heavily dependent on their Mentors, especially for providing IPMC votes on releases.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-17 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Joseph Schaefer wrote: > So just chill out for a moment or two and try to take in the more > substantive issue around having someone who is proactively tasked with > gathering data about our overall performance as seen through the eyes of our > consumers. This isn

RE: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator

2013-06-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think one concern here is appropriation of a generic, specified-tied name to an implementation, even a reference implementation. "Apache OData" seems over-reaching in that respect, especially since there are other projects, at ASF and elsewhere, that may employ OData bindings and services of

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mesos 0.12.0-incubating (RC1)

2013-06-17 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
Hey Ben, Looks like we got a 3rd +1 from Tom W -- woot -- so we can proceed :) Way to put a cherry on top since we're pushing on graduating now too! Great work guys. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist

Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator

2013-06-17 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Henry Saputra wrote: > I love having the (reference) implementation for OData specs, should help > the adoption of the specifications. > > The immediate red flag is the homogeneous participation for initial > committers. Any plan to add more diverse members as the i

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6-incubating(RC6)

2013-06-17 Thread Florian Hopf
Hi all, thank you all for finally getting our long anticipated release out. These are the results of the vote: From IPMC members: +1 Dave Fisher +1 Nick Burch +1 Joe Brockmeier From PPMC members: +1 Rob Weir +1 Oliver Rau +1 Florian Hopf Other: +1 Ian C Regards Florian On 06.06.2013 07:43

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mesos 0.12.0-incubating (RC1)

2013-06-17 Thread Tom White
+1 (verified checksum and signature, checked LICENSE, NOTICE, DISCLAIMER). Tom On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Benjamin Mahler wrote: > Please vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache Mesos > (incubating) version 0.12.0. This will be the fourth incubator release for > Mesos in Apache

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-17 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > A paradox: > > The VP is not supposed to exercise authority in normal circumstances. > Projects are supposed to have mentors that advocate for them. If a > project comes 'to the ombudsman', whether that's the VP or not, what > can this per

Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights

2013-06-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
> > From: Roman Shaposhnik >To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer >Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:26 PM >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights > > >On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >>> So isn't learning this bit of information a

Re: Change of Chair

2013-06-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > ...I have tendered my resignation as VP, Incubator. The PMC has recommend > Marvin Humphrey as my successor in a motion submitted to the > Foundation board for consideration at the meeting next week Many thanks Benson for your servic

Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator

2013-06-17 Thread Henry Saputra
I love having the (reference) implementation for OData specs, should help the adoption of the specifications. The immediate red flag is the homogeneous participation for initial committers. Any plan to add more diverse members as the initial goals? Does the project have contributions from external

Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights

2013-06-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >> So isn't learning this bit of information a crucial part of graduation? >> After >> all, once the project leaves the incubator its commiters and PMC won't have >> an access to the Ombudsman, isn't it in all of our best interest to teach >> t

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mesos 0.12.0-incubating (RC1)

2013-06-17 Thread Benjamin Mahler
+chris Hey Chris, looks like we're stalled on releasing again. What are the rules for a lack of IPMC participation in the 72 hour window? Can we proceed? On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Benjamin Mahler wrote: > Unfortunately 0.12.0 was at a point where we had flaky tests, we're in > much bett

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

2013-06-17 Thread Debo Dutta (dedutta)
Thanks a lot Sanjiva, Ross, Afkham! debo From: Afkham Azeez mailto:afk...@gmail.com>> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:05:14 +0530 To: mailto:general@incubator.apache.org>> Cc: Debo~ Dutta mailto:dedu...@cisco.com>> Subject: Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer? Added D

Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights

2013-06-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - > From: Roman Shaposhnik > To: Joseph Schaefer > Cc: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 2:02 AM > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Joseph Schaefer > wrote: >> The typical escalation path is ei

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

2013-06-17 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
I'm also not worried about figuring out how to do stuff .. :-). Sanjiva. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > C'mon Marvin. The project has enough ASF committers on the initial > commiter list (ignoring mentors) to be able to conduct a committer > vote. > > Lets not add unnec

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

2013-06-17 Thread Afkham Azeez
Added Debo to the initial committer list. Azeez On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I have not closed the vote yet because it ran over the weekend. I did > state I would leave it running into this week. > > As champion I have no objection to you adding Debo. Ultimately it > r

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

2013-06-17 Thread Ross Gardler
C'mon Marvin. The project has enough ASF committers on the initial commiter list (ignoring mentors) to be able to conduct a committer vote. Lets not add unnecessary bureaucracy during the initial set-up phase. Ross On 17 June 2013 19:01, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

2013-06-17 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > Debo Dutta, cc'ed, from Cisco, will be joining the project and it took a > bit of time to get it sorted. > > I realize this is a late request as the VOTE is already running .. is it ok > to add him now? ;-) > > If not we will bring him

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

2013-06-17 Thread Ross Gardler
I have not closed the vote yet because it ran over the weekend. I did state I would leave it running into this week. As champion I have no objection to you adding Debo. Ultimately it reduces unnecessary traffic on this list since we won't have to formally vote him in. Ross On 17 June 2013 18:37,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-17 Thread Benson Margulies
A paradox: The VP is not supposed to exercise authority in normal circumstances. Projects are supposed to have mentors that advocate for them. If a project comes 'to the ombudsman', whether that's the VP or not, what can this person do? All they can do is bring the matter to the community. If it's

Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

2013-06-17 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Debo Dutta, cc'ed, from Cisco, will be joining the project and it took a bit of time to get it sorted. I realize this is a late request as the VOTE is already running .. is it ok to add him now? ;-) If not we will bring him after the project starts. Cheers, Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.

Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator

2013-06-17 Thread Olemis Lang
On 6/17/13, Klevenz, Stephan wrote: > Dear ASF members, > > We would like to propose the OData project to the Incubator. > > The OData Proposal is available at: > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODataProposal > > We welcome your feedback and suggestions. > JFTR , at present there is an ongoing

Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator

2013-06-17 Thread Rob Vesse
Stephan What overlap (if any) do you see with the existing Marmotta podling? They are building out an implementation of the Linked Data Platform which is a ongoing W3C standardization effort (http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Main_Page) and can be thought of as a more RDF/Semantic Web centric alter

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-17 Thread Chip Childers
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 08:52:38AM -0700, Alan Cabrera wrote: > > Problem: podlings are confused on where to go when there's a problem. > > Cause: we seem to collect/handle/organize problems in an ad hoc manner and > sometimes mentors are the problem. > > Solution: we create an elected Incuba

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-17 Thread Daniel Kulp
+1 Dan On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter > the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation > policy. The accepta

[PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator

2013-06-17 Thread Klevenz, Stephan
Dear ASF members, We would like to propose the OData project to the Incubator. The OData Proposal is available at: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODataProposal We welcome your feedback and suggestions. Thanks! Stephan Klevenz = Apache OData = === Abstract === Apache OData is a generic

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache jclouds 1.6.1-incubating, RC3

2013-06-17 Thread Andrew Bayer
Yes - we'll have a detailed one up for the next release. For now, building from the tarballs (with a standard mvn clean install, in the order the repos are listed below) should suffice - that'll cover compilation, unit tests, and RAT check. Going forward, we'll have a guide for running the live

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache jclouds 1.6.1-incubating, RC3

2013-06-17 Thread Sebastien Goasguen
Hi, I would love to vote on this, it would be nice to have a test procedure like this one: https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/release-test-procedure.html Cheers, -sebastien On Jun 16, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote: > Hello, > > This is the third release candidate for Apache jcloud

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6-incubating(RC6)

2013-06-17 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013, at 12:12 AM, Florian Hopf wrote: > the voting period has passed but we had another IPMC +1 from our mentor > Nick Burch on odf-dev. Our other mentor Yegor seems to be pretty busy > currently so it would be great if somebody else could have a look at the > release candidate.

Re: Permission to add a page to the Incubator wiki

2013-06-17 Thread Upayavira
Done. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Klevenz, Stephan wrote: > Hello, > > May I have permission to add and edit OData proposal on the Incubator > wiki? My username is StephanKlevenz. > > Thanks! > > Stephan - To unsubscri

Permission to add a page to the Incubator wiki

2013-06-17 Thread Klevenz, Stephan
Hello, May I have permission to add and edit OData proposal on the Incubator wiki? My username is StephanKlevenz. Thanks! Stephan

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-17 Thread ant elder
+1 ...ant On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter > the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation > policy. The

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-17 Thread Suresh Marru
On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:19 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Marvin Humphrey > wrote: >> ... >> It's inconceivable to me that this will have an ounce of impact on either >> someone of Sanjiva's accomplishments or a future podling with the momentum of >> Stratos, but to ensu

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-17 Thread Marlon Pierce
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 Marlon On 6/16/13 12:15 PM, Milinda Pathirage wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > Thanks Milinda > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan > wrote: > >> +1 (non-binding) >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jim Jagielski >>

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-17 Thread Ruwan Linton
+1 Ruwan On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Milinda Pathirage < milinda.pathir...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > Thanks > Milinda > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan > wrote: > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-17 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: >... > It's inconceivable to me that this will have an ounce of impact on either > someone of Sanjiva's accomplishments or a future podling with the momentum of > Stratos, but to ensure that my positive assessment is communicated > unequivoc

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-17 Thread David Crossley
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