If I am not mistaken, no one really doubt the possible value of Tez
(incubating) for other open- and close-source projects. I don't think it
is an intention of the IPMC or a wider incubator community to pass the
judgement on the technical viability of a project.
What is discussed, on the other han
My personal experience with Tez for last few months was very good.
Although I am not from the same company from where the Tez project originally
started, the Tez community was very helpful to quickly ramp me up. The
community has patiently and promptly gave the constructive feedbacks/comments
I will add my two cents in here on the diversity front as a member of the
Pig team which has been working closely with Tez team for the past 3
quarters.
There has been a whole lot of features and design changes done in Tez
driven by requirements from Pig and it has been a pleasure working with th
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> I think its not enough to just look at release / committer additions.
>
> In the case of Wave, there was a committer addition in the past year. Still
> no commits, nor a release. Looking closer you would find that committer was
> added
P. Taylor Goetz wrote:
> As I understand it, using the the alternate voting system requires IPMC
> approval (correct me if I'm wrong...).
Yes, an IPMC vote is required for a podling to participate in the alternate
release procedure.
> Is it as difficult to get IPMC votes for that approval as it
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli
wrote:
> I see two threads here
> - Concerns about graduation of Apache Tez project w.r.t diversity based on
> the PPMC html page
> - Community related threads about things like whether diversity is a hard
> requirement or how
> to grow
I see two threads here
- Concerns about graduation of Apache Tez project w.r.t diversity based on the
PPMC html page
- Community related threads about things like whether diversity is a hard
requirement or how to grow communities.
AFAICT, Hitesh's latest information on the state of the members
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Bikas Saha wrote:
>
>> Community building is an organic process that grows on its own accord.
>>
>
> Really, I was going to run away for a bit, but my feeling is that this
> statement is amazingly naive about h
I think we are on the same page here about working hard to build the
community. We need to work hard to make the community grow. I was merely
saying that how that effort converts into adoption is not something that can
be predicted. I hope that clarifies. Always looking for guidance to make the
mos
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Bikas Saha wrote:
> Community building is an organic process that grows on its own accord.
>
Really, I was going to run away for a bit, but my feeling is that this
statement is amazingly naive about how communities are built.
Community doesn't just happen. Comm
Community building is an organic process that grows on its own accord.
Members can only make efforts to evangelize the project and support the
initial users of the project by answering questions and helping them out.
We have tried do our part as the initial members of the community and we
think tha
Thanks Ted, appreciate it and we will make sure to address your comments
and sincerely appreciate the time you took to type your replies and
do your research. It will no doubt help the community and thank you again.
++
Chris Mattmann
I will look as soon as possible. I am on a trip right now and am occupied with
day job stuff >12 hours a day.
If you don't hear from me in a short time, move forward based in your best
judgment. I trust the group to consider my impressions and to think about what
merit they may (or may not) h
Thanks Hitesh, this is great data too. I also found the issues list
to be a gold source of conversation.
I'll now wait to see what Ted thinks, but as far as I'm concerned you
guys are moving in the direction I suspected (graduation) based on my
admittedly limited searching of mail archives and bas
Hi folks,
To be very clear, the project's source of truth has always been its status
file:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/tez.xml
For the tez website, http://tez.incubator.apache.org/team-list.html, the onus
was for the committers to test out their co
Hi Ted,
Thanks. One thing after doing some of my own digging:
TEZ has a large JIRA repository and apparently a lot of the work is going
on there:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TEZ-1218?jql=project%20%3D%20TEZ
Over 1200 issues to that tune as well.
This is validated by the following mai
Taylor, thanks for making 0.9.2 available.
I did some preliminary tests and looked through the artifacts. +1 (binding)
from me for the release.
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
> Only IPMC members' votes are binding until the podling is out of the
> incubator. This releas
Let me repeat that my desired outcome here is Tez graduation.
It is just that I want to see Tez graduate as a viable project.
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Thanks Ted, these are all important points that require responses.
Thanks Ted, these are all important points that require responses. I have
CC'ed the dev@tez.i.a.o
list, where I hope the Tez community can respond to your points below in
detail.
Guys, please see Ted's comments below and please try to address them in
light of the
recent [DISCUSS] Graduation thre
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >Regardless of whether it is an explicit requirement to have some specific
> >level of diversity, there is a requirement that the group demonstrate
> >community building.
>
> I'm also sympathetic to
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