Re: Review mailing list membership?

[Gian Merlino]

Thanks Taylor!

Do you know if this is something that the PPMCs are supposed to have access
to or should we be asking you for help if we want to check again?

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:44 PM, P. Taylor Goetz  wrote:

> I sent the subscriber list for dev@druid and private@druid to
> private@druid.
>
> -Taylor
>
> > On Apr 17, 2018, at 5:31 PM, P. Taylor Goetz  wrote:
> >
> > I can do it when I’m back at a computer. Basically you have to send the
> ezlm email from an ASF machine. The easiest way is to ssh into minotaur.a.o
> and use the mail command to send the email.
> >
> > Do you want just the subscription list for dev@ or private@ as well?
> >
> > -Taylor
> >
> >> On Apr 17, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Julian Hyde  wrote:
> >>
> >> I’m one of your (druid codling’s) mentors and, yes, I moderate the
> druid lists. I tried a week or so ago to list the members of druid’s lists
> and struck out.
> >>
> >> In twenty minutes, I couldn’t find the solutions listed below:  whimsy
> and dev-l...@druid.apache.org . (I
> looked at https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/druid-dev/ <
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/druid-dev/> for instance, and
> emailed dev-h...@druid.apache.org .)
> >>
> >> So either I’m stupid or the documentation needs improvement (or both).
> >>
> >>> On Apr 17, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Gian Merlino  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I didn't know it existed until now - thanks! I just tried it from my
> apache
> >>> email and got the response "fatal: Command allowed only to moderators
> >>> (#5.7.1)". Maybe only our mentors are set up as moderators?
> >>>
>  On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Christopher 
> wrote:
> 
>  Have you tried the tool at
>  https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/moderationhelper.cgi ?
> 
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:06 PM Gian Merlino 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi incubators,
> >
> > Is there a tool somewhere to review the membership of a mailing list?
> >
> > We (Druid) are working on migrating our mailing lists now. As I work
> out
> > the logistics of doing that I am finding that it would help to know
> how
> > many people from the old list have subscribed to the new one, as we
> have
> > been encouraging people to do for about a month. If the overlap is
> good
> > then we know we are clear to migrate without leaving too many people
> > behind. If the overlap is poor then we know we need to do more
> outreach
>  to
> > get people to subscribe to the new list.
> >
> > Gian
> >
> 
> >>
>
>

Re: Review mailing list membership?

[John D. Ament]

You should be able to do it from the email address you're moderating from.
For instance, my @incubator moderation is using my gmail address for some
reason, so I can't use my @apache.org but I can use my @gmail.com address.

Not sure if this helps Julian.

John

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:31 PM P. Taylor Goetz  wrote:

> I can do it when I’m back at a computer. Basically you have to send the
> ezlm email from an ASF machine. The easiest way is to ssh into minotaur.a.o
> and use the mail command to send the email.
>
> Do you want just the subscription list for dev@ or private@ as well?
>
> -Taylor
>
> > On Apr 17, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Julian Hyde  wrote:
> >
> > I’m one of your (druid codling’s) mentors and, yes, I moderate the druid
> lists. I tried a week or so ago to list the members of druid’s lists and
> struck out.
> >
> > In twenty minutes, I couldn’t find the solutions listed below:  whimsy
> and dev-l...@druid.apache.org . (I
> looked at https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/druid-dev/ <
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/druid-dev/> for instance, and
> emailed dev-h...@druid.apache.org .)
> >
> > So either I’m stupid or the documentation needs improvement (or both).
> >
> >> On Apr 17, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Gian Merlino  wrote:
> >>
> >> I didn't know it existed until now - thanks! I just tried it from my
> apache
> >> email and got the response "fatal: Command allowed only to moderators
> >> (#5.7.1)". Maybe only our mentors are set up as moderators?
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Christopher 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Have you tried the tool at
> >>> https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/moderationhelper.cgi ?
> >>>
>  On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:06 PM Gian Merlino  wrote:
> 
>  Hi incubators,
> 
>  Is there a tool somewhere to review the membership of a mailing list?
> 
>  We (Druid) are working on migrating our mailing lists now. As I work
> out
>  the logistics of doing that I am finding that it would help to know
> how
>  many people from the old list have subscribed to the new one, as we
> have
>  been encouraging people to do for about a month. If the overlap is
> good
>  then we know we are clear to migrate without leaving too many people
>  behind. If the overlap is poor then we know we need to do more
> outreach
> >>> to
>  get people to subscribe to the new list.
> 
>  Gian
> 
> >>>
> >
>
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>

Re: Review mailing list membership?

[P. Taylor Goetz]

I sent the subscriber list for dev@druid and private@druid to private@druid.

-Taylor

> On Apr 17, 2018, at 5:31 PM, P. Taylor Goetz  wrote:
> 
> I can do it when I’m back at a computer. Basically you have to send the ezlm 
> email from an ASF machine. The easiest way is to ssh into minotaur.a.o and 
> use the mail command to send the email.
> 
> Do you want just the subscription list for dev@ or private@ as well?
> 
> -Taylor
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Julian Hyde  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m one of your (druid codling’s) mentors and, yes, I moderate the druid 
>> lists. I tried a week or so ago to list the members of druid’s lists and 
>> struck out.
>> 
>> In twenty minutes, I couldn’t find the solutions listed below:  whimsy and 
>> dev-l...@druid.apache.org . (I looked at 
>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/druid-dev/ 
>>  for instance, and 
>> emailed dev-h...@druid.apache.org .)
>> 
>> So either I’m stupid or the documentation needs improvement (or both).
>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Gian Merlino  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I didn't know it existed until now - thanks! I just tried it from my apache
>>> email and got the response "fatal: Command allowed only to moderators
>>> (#5.7.1)". Maybe only our mentors are set up as moderators?
>>> 
 On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Christopher  wrote:
 
 Have you tried the tool at
 https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/moderationhelper.cgi ?
 
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:06 PM Gian Merlino  wrote:
> 
> Hi incubators,
> 
> Is there a tool somewhere to review the membership of a mailing list?
> 
> We (Druid) are working on migrating our mailing lists now. As I work out
> the logistics of doing that I am finding that it would help to know how
> many people from the old list have subscribed to the new one, as we have
> been encouraging people to do for about a month. If the overlap is good
> then we know we are clear to migrate without leaving too many people
> behind. If the overlap is poor then we know we need to do more outreach
 to
> get people to subscribe to the new list.
> 
> Gian
> 
 
>> 



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Re: Review mailing list membership?

[P. Taylor Goetz]

I can do it when I’m back at a computer. Basically you have to send the ezlm 
email from an ASF machine. The easiest way is to ssh into minotaur.a.o and use 
the mail command to send the email.

Do you want just the subscription list for dev@ or private@ as well?

-Taylor

> On Apr 17, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Julian Hyde  wrote:
> 
> I’m one of your (druid codling’s) mentors and, yes, I moderate the druid 
> lists. I tried a week or so ago to list the members of druid’s lists and 
> struck out.
> 
> In twenty minutes, I couldn’t find the solutions listed below:  whimsy and 
> dev-l...@druid.apache.org . (I looked at 
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/druid-dev/ 
>  for instance, and 
> emailed dev-h...@druid.apache.org .)
> 
> So either I’m stupid or the documentation needs improvement (or both).
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Gian Merlino  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't know it existed until now - thanks! I just tried it from my apache
>> email and got the response "fatal: Command allowed only to moderators
>> (#5.7.1)". Maybe only our mentors are set up as moderators?
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Christopher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried the tool at
>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/moderationhelper.cgi ?
>>> 
 On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:06 PM Gian Merlino  wrote:
 
 Hi incubators,
 
 Is there a tool somewhere to review the membership of a mailing list?
 
 We (Druid) are working on migrating our mailing lists now. As I work out
 the logistics of doing that I am finding that it would help to know how
 many people from the old list have subscribed to the new one, as we have
 been encouraging people to do for about a month. If the overlap is good
 then we know we are clear to migrate without leaving too many people
 behind. If the overlap is poor then we know we need to do more outreach
>>> to
 get people to subscribe to the new list.
 
 Gian
 
>>> 
> 

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Re: Review mailing list membership?

[Julian Hyde]

I’m one of your (druid codling’s) mentors and, yes, I moderate the druid lists. 
I tried a week or so ago to list the members of druid’s lists and struck out.

In twenty minutes, I couldn’t find the solutions listed below:  whimsy and 
dev-l...@druid.apache.org . (I looked at 
https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/druid-dev/ 
 for instance, and 
emailed dev-h...@druid.apache.org .)

So either I’m stupid or the documentation needs improvement (or both).

> On Apr 17, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Gian Merlino  wrote:
> 
> I didn't know it existed until now - thanks! I just tried it from my apache
> email and got the response "fatal: Command allowed only to moderators
> (#5.7.1)". Maybe only our mentors are set up as moderators?
> 
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Christopher  wrote:
> 
>> Have you tried the tool at
>> https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/moderationhelper.cgi ?
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:06 PM Gian Merlino  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi incubators,
>>> 
>>> Is there a tool somewhere to review the membership of a mailing list?
>>> 
>>> We (Druid) are working on migrating our mailing lists now. As I work out
>>> the logistics of doing that I am finding that it would help to know how
>>> many people from the old list have subscribed to the new one, as we have
>>> been encouraging people to do for about a month. If the overlap is good
>>> then we know we are clear to migrate without leaving too many people
>>> behind. If the overlap is poor then we know we need to do more outreach
>> to
>>> get people to subscribe to the new list.
>>> 
>>> Gian
>>> 
>> 

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

[Dave Fisher]

> On Apr 17, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Matt Sicker  wrote:
> 
> On 17 April 2018 at 13:47, Greg Stein  wrote:
> 
>> The easiest solution is to place your site source into Git, specifically as
>> part of our "gitbox" program. That will allow for direct editing on
>> github.com. When the edits are saved, then buildbot or jenkins can pick up
>> the change, generate/save the site, and pubsub will pick up the
>> newly-generated change(s) to the site.
>> 
> 
> This is a clearer explanation of what I was trying to suggest. I didn't
> even consider the GitHub editor feature, though, which would be super handy
> here

Why don’t we create a test gitbox site where anyone with incubator commit bit 
can experiment?

Regards,
Dave






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Re: Default webpages for new podlings

[Matt Sicker]

On 17 April 2018 at 13:47, Greg Stein  wrote:

> The easiest solution is to place your site source into Git, specifically as
> part of our "gitbox" program. That will allow for direct editing on
> github.com. When the edits are saved, then buildbot or jenkins can pick up
> the change, generate/save the site, and pubsub will pick up the
> newly-generated change(s) to the site.
>

This is a clearer explanation of what I was trying to suggest. I didn't
even consider the GitHub editor feature, though, which would be super handy
here!


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Re: Default webpages for new podlings

[Roman Shaposhnik]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:51 AM, sebb  wrote:
> On 17 April 2018 at 19:47, Greg Stein  wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>...
>>
>>> Greg - You know which project I’m thinking about - OpenOffice.org. (1) I
>>> can see a way to make Jekyll or something similar function for site
>>> generation. Since I did the migration in I ought to be able to migrate out.
>>> (2) The main challenge is that the CMS provides good in site patching by
>>> new contributors on page. Replacing that method of getting new contributors
>>> to easily provide patches is the hurdle AFAICT. Has Infra thought about a
>>> solution for this?
>>>
>>
>> The easiest solution is to place your site source into Git, specifically as
>> part of our "gitbox" program. That will allow for direct editing on
>> github.com. When the edits are saved, then buildbot or jenkins can pick up
>> the change, generate/save the site, and pubsub will pick up the
>> newly-generated change(s) to the site.
>
> How about creating a dummy podling site using this feature?

That, frankly, is an awesome idea!

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: Default webpages for new podlings

[sebb]

On 17 April 2018 at 19:47, Greg Stein  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>...
>
>> Greg - You know which project I’m thinking about - OpenOffice.org. (1) I
>> can see a way to make Jekyll or something similar function for site
>> generation. Since I did the migration in I ought to be able to migrate out.
>> (2) The main challenge is that the CMS provides good in site patching by
>> new contributors on page. Replacing that method of getting new contributors
>> to easily provide patches is the hurdle AFAICT. Has Infra thought about a
>> solution for this?
>>
>
> The easiest solution is to place your site source into Git, specifically as
> part of our "gitbox" program. That will allow for direct editing on
> github.com. When the edits are saved, then buildbot or jenkins can pick up
> the change, generate/save the site, and pubsub will pick up the
> newly-generated change(s) to the site.

How about creating a dummy podling site using this feature?

> Cheers,
> -g

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Re: Default webpages for new podlings

[Greg Stein]

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>...

> Greg - You know which project I’m thinking about - OpenOffice.org. (1) I
> can see a way to make Jekyll or something similar function for site
> generation. Since I did the migration in I ought to be able to migrate out.
> (2) The main challenge is that the CMS provides good in site patching by
> new contributors on page. Replacing that method of getting new contributors
> to easily provide patches is the hurdle AFAICT. Has Infra thought about a
> solution for this?
>

The easiest solution is to place your site source into Git, specifically as
part of our "gitbox" program. That will allow for direct editing on
github.com. When the edits are saved, then buildbot or jenkins can pick up
the change, generate/save the site, and pubsub will pick up the
newly-generated change(s) to the site.

Cheers,
-g

Re: Review mailing list membership?

[Gian Merlino]

I didn't know it existed until now - thanks! I just tried it from my apache
email and got the response "fatal: Command allowed only to moderators
(#5.7.1)". Maybe only our mentors are set up as moderators?

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Christopher  wrote:

> Have you tried the tool at
> https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/moderationhelper.cgi ?
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:06 PM Gian Merlino  wrote:
>
> > Hi incubators,
> >
> > Is there a tool somewhere to review the membership of a mailing list?
> >
> > We (Druid) are working on migrating our mailing lists now. As I work out
> > the logistics of doing that I am finding that it would help to know how
> > many people from the old list have subscribed to the new one, as we have
> > been encouraging people to do for about a month. If the overlap is good
> > then we know we are clear to migrate without leaving too many people
> > behind. If the overlap is poor then we know we need to do more outreach
> to
> > get people to subscribe to the new list.
> >
> > Gian
> >
>

Re: Review mailing list membership?

[Dave Fisher]

Also moderators can do it via email.

https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#list-subscribers 



> On Apr 17, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Christopher  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried the tool at
> https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/moderationhelper.cgi ?
> 
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:06 PM Gian Merlino  wrote:
> 
>> Hi incubators,
>> 
>> Is there a tool somewhere to review the membership of a mailing list?
>> 
>> We (Druid) are working on migrating our mailing lists now. As I work out
>> the logistics of doing that I am finding that it would help to know how
>> many people from the old list have subscribed to the new one, as we have
>> been encouraging people to do for about a month. If the overlap is good
>> then we know we are clear to migrate without leaving too many people
>> behind. If the overlap is poor then we know we need to do more outreach to
>> get people to subscribe to the new list.
>> 
>> Gian
>> 



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Re: Review mailing list membership?

[Christopher]

Have you tried the tool at
https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/moderationhelper.cgi ?

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:06 PM Gian Merlino  wrote:

> Hi incubators,
>
> Is there a tool somewhere to review the membership of a mailing list?
>
> We (Druid) are working on migrating our mailing lists now. As I work out
> the logistics of doing that I am finding that it would help to know how
> many people from the old list have subscribed to the new one, as we have
> been encouraging people to do for about a month. If the overlap is good
> then we know we are clear to migrate without leaving too many people
> behind. If the overlap is poor then we know we need to do more outreach to
> get people to subscribe to the new list.
>
> Gian
>

Review mailing list membership?

[Gian Merlino]

Hi incubators,

Is there a tool somewhere to review the membership of a mailing list?

We (Druid) are working on migrating our mailing lists now. As I work out
the logistics of doing that I am finding that it would help to know how
many people from the old list have subscribed to the new one, as we have
been encouraging people to do for about a month. If the overlap is good
then we know we are clear to migrate without leaving too many people
behind. If the overlap is poor then we know we need to do more outreach to
get people to subscribe to the new list.

Gian

Re: Default webpages for new podlings

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Matt,

It's a little more complex than that. These are users who are often non-English 
speaking who want to translate plus the full site is about 9GB.
No rush on things just need to discuss with PMC and think it over. See what is 
really happening now. Any change here is large, very large for the project. 
Need to do it so that no one goes ballistic like I did when this was first 
proposed a few years ago.

Regards,
Dave

> On Apr 17, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Matt Sicker  wrote:
> 
> Can't you still provide patches a pull requests to the asf-site branch for
> example? Or to the docs source itself if it's generated.
> 
> On 16 April 2018 at 20:57, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 5:13 PM, Greg Stein  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
>>> bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
>>> 
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Matt Sicker  wrote:
> ...Most places I've seen the CMS still in use was because of svnpubsub,
 not
> necessarily cms.a.o. We use it to commit the output from
 maven-site-plugin,
> javadocs, scaladocs, etc. Am I confused here?...
 
 AFAIK both svnpubsub and gitpubsub are fully supported by ASF infra.
 
>>> 
>>> Correct.
>>> 
>>> 
 It's the content management part of the ASF CMS that's deprecated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Grandfathered. No new projects, but projects currently using it, can
>>> continue to do so. We have other priorities, but will eventually get
>> around
>>> to a plan to move everybody off the CMS.
>> 
>> Greg - You know which project I’m thinking about - OpenOffice.org. (1) I
>> can see a way to make Jekyll or something similar function for site
>> generation. Since I did the migration in I ought to be able to migrate out.
>> (2) The main challenge is that the CMS provides good in site patching by
>> new contributors on page. Replacing that method of getting new contributors
>> to easily provide patches is the hurdle AFAICT. Has Infra thought about a
>> solution for this?
>> 
>> Feel free to move this thread.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Greg
>>> InfraAdmin, ASF
>> 
>> 
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Re: Default webpages for new podlings

[Matt Sicker]

Can't you still provide patches a pull requests to the asf-site branch for
example? Or to the docs source itself if it's generated.

On 16 April 2018 at 20:57, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Hi -
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 16, 2018, at 5:13 PM, Greg Stein  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> >
> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Matt Sicker  wrote:
> >>> ...Most places I've seen the CMS still in use was because of svnpubsub,
> >> not
> >>> necessarily cms.a.o. We use it to commit the output from
> >> maven-site-plugin,
> >>> javadocs, scaladocs, etc. Am I confused here?...
> >>
> >> AFAIK both svnpubsub and gitpubsub are fully supported by ASF infra.
> >>
> >
> > Correct.
> >
> >
> >> It's the content management part of the ASF CMS that's deprecated.
> >
> >
> > Grandfathered. No new projects, but projects currently using it, can
> > continue to do so. We have other priorities, but will eventually get
> around
> > to a plan to move everybody off the CMS.
>
> Greg - You know which project I’m thinking about - OpenOffice.org. (1) I
> can see a way to make Jekyll or something similar function for site
> generation. Since I did the migration in I ought to be able to migrate out.
> (2) The main challenge is that the CMS provides good in site patching by
> new contributors on page. Replacing that method of getting new contributors
> to easily provide patches is the hurdle AFAICT. Has Infra thought about a
> solution for this?
>
> Feel free to move this thread.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Greg
> > InfraAdmin, ASF
>
>
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Re: Challenges using Gitbox

[Ted Dunning]

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:28 PM, Ralph Goers 
wrote:

> ...
> >> such people can earn merit by becoming involved with the community and
> > helping out where they can.
> >
> > In theory, that sounds good, but as a practical matter, how many people
> > that have ever been on the ASF board of directors neither know/knew, nor
> > use(d) any programming languages in getting there? IOW, they got there
> > exclusively on their ability to write documentation, do community
> > relations, or utilize other non-coding skills?
>
> It has happened many times. When I was a committer on Apache Cocoon we
> voted Arje Cahn as a committer for his contributions to the project which
> had nothing to do with coding. He was voted in as an ASF member for pretty
> much the same reason.
>


It has happened. I was voted as a committer for simply answering questions
(and it stuck). I know of at least one or two others.

But we should be honest here. It isn't all that common. It should be much
more common.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Daffodil (incubating) 2.1.0-rc3

[Steve Lawrence]

I cannot reproduce the gpg failure. On a fresh CentOS install, I ran the
following:

$ wget
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/daffodil/2.1.0-rc3/bin/apache-daffodil-2.1.0-incubating-bin.tgz
$ wget
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/daffodil/2.1.0-rc3/bin/apache-daffodil-2.1.0-incubating-bin.tgz.asc
$ wget https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/daffodil/KEYS
$ gpg --import KEYS
gpg: key 033AE661: public key "Steve Lawrence "
imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:   imported: 1  (RSA: 1)
$ gpg --verify apache-daffodil-2.1.0-incubating-bin.tgz.asc
gpg: Signature made Thu 05 Apr 2018 12:27:15 PM EDT using RSA key ID
033AE661
gpg: Good signature from "Steve Lawrence "
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to the
owner.
Primary key fingerprint: B58C 8114 2758 101A 43D5  B17D 36F3 494B 033A E661

Can you verify the sha sums? The sha256sum of the .asc file is:

63ebf795e4cfed85e4ef55e872a71f6f29696c4145d89c37aa5e1d74e29c08b2


I think you are correct that there is an issue regarding the [1][2]
files. We did thoroughly go through our code and thought that all
contributions from Mitre had been removed/replaced, but it looks like we
missed these two. Because of this, we never attempted to get an SGA/CLA
from Mitre, and so these files did have the ASLv2 header incorrectly
added. The original license of these files was University of Illinois
NCSA Open Source license [3], which is Cat A and compatible with ASLv2.
These test files do not provide much value, and should just be removed.

Is your vote still a +1 if we plan to remove these two files in the
2.2.0 release? DAFFODIL-1925 [4] tracks this issue.

Thanks,
- Steve

[3] https://opensource.org/licenses/NCSA
[4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DAFFODIL-1925

On 04/17/2018 12:58 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ignoring the signing issues I would be +1 if the license of the files[1][2]  
> known and the LICENSE fixed in the next release.  However a quick search 
> seems to imply that the two files below [1][2] may be licensed under terms 
> which are not compatible with the Apache license but I’m not 100% sure and 
> INAL.
> 
> Re everything else:
> - incubating in name.
> - DISCLAIMER exists
> - NOTICE is good
> - LICENSE looks to be missing info on these files [1][2] Has an ASF header 
> has been added incorrectly? How are they licensed and is that compatable with 
> the ALv2?
> - No unexpected binary files
> - All source files have ASF headers
> - Can compile from source
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 
> 1. 
> apache-daffodil-2.1.0-incubating-src/daffodil-test/src/test/resources/org/apache/daffodil/usertests/json5.dfdl.xsd
> 2. 
> apache-daffodil-2.1.0-incubating-src/daffodil-test/src/test/resources/org/apache/daffodil/usertests/testWSPStar.dfdl.xsd
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