Re: Missing multiple board reports in a row
HI, > Could you please remind me what was that about? The Apache Annotator PPMC has missed reporting to the board in the incubator report a few months in a row. They can fill in the report here. [1] Thanks, Justin 1. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2018 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Guidance : Gitter --> Slack
Slack has no F/OSS discounts, but they *do* have a discount for charities like the ASF. The ASF has not (yet) chosen to purchase a license, though, as we encourage mailing lists rather than synchronous chat services. We also want the discussions *recorded* on ASF hardware for archival/review purposes. Mailing lists are easily archived, but not so easily for chat. At Apache, chat services should be viewed as *supplemental* to a project's dev@ list. This is why we're not spending $$ on them. Projects should be more concerned about keeping discussion on-list, rather than what chat service to use. Cheers, -g On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:59 PM Abhishek Tiwari wrote: > Are you okay with message count limitation with Slack? or is there any > license that they have for open source projects? > > Abhishek > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM Sid Anand wrote: > > > Hi Folks! > > The Airflow community would like to move to Slack from Gitter. Is there > any > > guidance on this list on how to do that? We would essentially like to > > shutdown Gitter. > > > > -s > > >
Re: Guidance : Gitter --> Slack
Are you okay with message count limitation with Slack? or is there any license that they have for open source projects? Abhishek On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM Sid Anand wrote: > Hi Folks! > The Airflow community would like to move to Slack from Gitter. Is there any > guidance on this list on how to do that? We would essentially like to > shutdown Gitter. > > -s >
Re: [DISCUSS] Absent mentors
Hi, Coming back to this old thread and coming up with some simple draft emails. Feedback welcome. > Taking a closer look at the data [1] (only accessible by IPMC and ASF members > sorry) it may be a good idea to split the mentors/podlings into groups and > draft a different email for each? For instance: > - Mentors who are not signing off reports at all or only occasionally (sent to mentor) I can see you are are the mentor of XXX and haven’t been signing off reports on a frequent basis. Life happens and things change and you may no longer be in the position to be able to put in the same effort that you once did to mentor this podling. If that is the case perhaps you would consider stepping down as mentor and/or help find the podling another mentor. By my rough count there about 90 mentors :-( who are in this position. > - Mentors who have missed a few as they it looks like they have too many > podlings on their plate (sent to mentor) I can see you are are the mentor of XXX, YYY and ZZZ and haven’t been signing off all reports on a frequent basis. While we appreciate your enthusiasm for helping out at the incubator PMC, perhaps you’ve got busy with other things or you've just taken on too many podlings to mentor. Would it be better for you and your podlings if you cut back a little on the number you mentor and let someone else handle the load? By my rough count there about 15 mentors who are in this position. > - Podlings that have a less that 50% (say) sign off rate (sent to dev or private list) It looks like your mentors haven’t been signing off board reports as much as they should. Can you tell us if your mentors are still active or if you need help in any other way? By my rough count there about 30 podlings who are in this position. That more than half the current podlings. Those numbers are a lot larger that I expected, but I think we've known that. So they emails might get some mentors re-engaged and they may get some mentors to resign. The question may be where do we find mentors to help podlings out if a large number do decide to step down. Thanks, Justin 1. https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/signoff.cgi#bypodling - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Poddlings length of time in the incubator
Hi - Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2018, at 9:08 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 8:22 PM Ted Dunning wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM Dave Fisher wrote: >>> >>> Hi - >>> >>> ... Possibly retirement? ODF toolkit (7 years in the incubator!) >>> >>> I’ve discussed this some on the ODF toolkit dev list. Development was >>> recently moved to Git. The Incubator needs to decide if we will turnover >>> the domains that were donated in 2011 by IBM(?) to the only consistent >>> developer. If that is true then we can quickly let them retire, but >> survive >>> on Github. >>> >>> What do people think? >>> >> >> Sounds like a perfect one person project. We should let them have any >> non-Apache domains that they want. >> > > We only own "odftoolkit.org" now. There used to be about a dozen (eg. > domain squatting approach from the prior holders), and when they came up > for renewal, I pushed back. The PPMC requested us to hold odftoolkit.org as > the only one ever actually used. So, we dropped the others, saving $$ for > the Foundation. > > The IPMC is the "owner" of this domain (with some dotted-line to Brand), > with Infra handling the mechanics. If the IPMC decides to retire > odftoolkit, and IPMC/Brand wants to release the domain to a new caretaker, > then a simple email (or Jira ticket) can make it happen. Easy stuff. Thanks Greg. I’m seeing one new person and one of the early developers decloak today. Let’s see if something is finally happening organically. If not in a week or two then we can start their egress. Regards, Dave > > Cheers, > Greg > InfraAdmin, ASF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Missing multiple board reports in a row
Hey - Inline. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > HI, > > JFYI Was bcc’d to Annotator, Milagro, S2Graph and SensSoft dev lists. > > Pony mail (only mentioned as a podling with multiple missing reports) I’m > happy to see was actually one of the first podlings to report this month. I saw that since I got them as a Shepherd assignment. Regards, Dave > > Thanks, > Justin > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Missing multiple board reports in a row
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 16:20 Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > It lookalike you missed a couple of board reports in a row. Does your > project needs help? If so please ask for it on the general@incubator > list. Are you still working towards graduation? If not perhaps it time to > consider retirement? > Thanks for the check-in, Justin. We missed July due to neglect and then I was on vacation for August and offline. > Whatever the reason for the missed reports we’d really like to know what > is going on in your project. It's important that you fill in the current > report due on the 5th. If for some reason, you are unable to report by that > time please get in touch and explain why. > You should have an update for this one. Progress has definitely been slow, but the core of us are still keen to move the project forward for the time being.
Re: Dealing with Unresponsive Mentors
HI, > I increasingly tend to agree. However, if we put the onus on PPMCs to police > inactive mentors, there should probably be a documented process in place > (which it is [1]). If mentors can’t sign off reports on a frequent basis I think the PPMC should ask for them to be replaced. If they are not doing that then it likely they are not doing anything else. Some podling have under a 50% sign off rate [1]. It was suggest that we send out some emails a few months back to podling with possible inactive mentors/ possible inactive mentors, I think that probably a better idea than asking PPMCs to tell us as as you say they may be reluctant to do so. Thanks, Justin 1. https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/signoff.cgi#bypodling - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Poddlings length of time in the incubator
I’d be a +1. -Taylor > On Aug 31, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:30 PM Justin Mclean > wrote: > >> ... >>> FWIW, for the DLab proposal [1], we added a voluntary incubation period >> max of 2 years, essentially saying we didn’t want to become a resource >> drain. I haven’t checked to see if any other projects have done this. >> >> Nice idea. I think we shovel add to the template “How long do you think >> you'll spend in incubation” to the proposal template - what do others >> think? At least they sets some expectations even if it’s not binding. >> > > I think that is a great suggestion. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Missing multiple board reports in a row
HI, JFYI Was bcc’d to Annotator, Milagro, S2Graph and SensSoft dev lists. Pony mail (only mentioned as a podling with multiple missing reports) I’m happy to see was actually one of the first podlings to report this month. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Missing multiple board reports in a row
Hi, It lookalike you missed a couple of board reports in a row. Does your project needs help? If so please ask for it on the general@incubator list. Are you still working towards graduation? If not perhaps it time to consider retirement? Whatever the reason for the missed reports we’d really like to know what is going on in your project. It's important that you fill in the current report due on the 5th. If for some reason, you are unable to report by that time please get in touch and explain why. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Poddlings length of time in the incubator
I’m game to help with Joshua for sure. I haven’t really been participating in Senssoft. But I know that community (originally from XDATA) and they want to do well. I think that the only thing next on Joshua is to post the resolution to graduate, which I never got around to doing. Thanks, Chris From: Justin Mclean Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Friday, August 31, 2018 at 3:39 PM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: Poddlings length of time in the incubator Hi, Thanks Lewis for that. Lets see if we can get these two projects to graduate. If they need help with that (i.e. mentors are missing) please ask for help here. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Guidance : Gitter --> Slack
Hi Folks! The Airflow community would like to move to Slack from Gitter. Is there any guidance on this list on how to do that? We would essentially like to shutdown Gitter. -s
Re: Podlings slow to make releases
Hi, Given no response in regards to Superset release, I’ll ask what the situation is on their dev list. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Poddlings length of time in the incubator
Hi, Thanks Lewis for that. Lets see if we can get these two projects to graduate. If they need help with that (i.e. mentors are missing) please ask for help here. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Poddlings length of time in the incubator
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:30 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > ... > > FWIW, for the DLab proposal [1], we added a voluntary incubation period > max of 2 years, essentially saying we didn’t want to become a resource > drain. I haven’t checked to see if any other projects have done this. > > Nice idea. I think we shovel add to the template “How long do you think > you'll spend in incubation” to the proposal template - what do others > think? At least they sets some expectations even if it’s not binding. > I think that is a great suggestion.
Re: Poddlings length of time in the incubator
Hi, > FWIW, for the DLab proposal [1], we added a voluntary incubation period max > of 2 years, essentially saying we didn’t want to become a resource drain. I > haven’t checked to see if any other projects have done this. Nice idea. I think we shovel add to the template “How long do you think you'll spend in incubation” to the proposal template - what do others think? At least they sets some expectations even if it’s not binding. Thanks, Justin
Re: Poddlings length of time in the incubator
Hi, > Basically, I'm +1 on every single point that Julian makes, but having > said this I'm unsure as to where can we go from here. IMO Ask the podlings in questing if they need help and how long they intends to stay in incubation / what are the issues stopping them from graduating. It may be that they require more time for community building but may be for other reasons. Thanks, Justin
