Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases
On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 4:11 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > I agree with other respondents that 'serious' seems bad here. To me the > > serious ones are the only ones they can't release with. > > So we just continue as is then? You have any suggests to what we change? > I don't think we're using the same word meanings. I think that serious = release blocker; but I equally think there are very few items that are serious. > > > ReleaseBlocking: Has a LICENSE. Legally permitted to release and > complies > > with the license via some mechanism. > > We currently allow releases that are not strictly legal. This would be a > step backwards. > > I'd love to hear some examples. I suspect they are all legal. Speculating hypothetically: * We should never make a release that we know there is some content in that we explicitly do not have permission to publish. * We should never make a release that we know contains content that is criminal (for whatever that would mean). Other than that... I'm not sure what else would come under 'all legal' label. > > GraduationBlocking: Everything else; including complying with the > license > > via our preferred mechanism (i.e. we might want the MIT license text in > our > > LICENSE file, but would accept it being in the source header of the files > > themselves). > > We currently allow podlings to graduate with some issues as longs as the > PPMC is dealing with them. This would be a step backwards. > > Yeah. We need a third category for "MehNotBlockingPleaseFix". > > I don't see a need to go to the board on this :) > > If we don’t want to change anything - sure there's no need to go to the > board. > I'd definitely like to see change. My feeling is that there's a lot we can make that falls comfortably within the scope of the Incubator PMC. IIRC the release policies came out of the Incubator; I don't recall there being a request for the board to ratify them, but I might be failing to remember something a decade+ ago :) > > >> issues have been fixed. The IPMC will add additional information to the > > incubator DISCLAIMER to cover that podling release may not abide by all > > > > The IPMC? That sounds like a people scaling problem. The podling > committee > > should handle it. > > I mean just changing this page [1] , podlings can update their own > disclaimers. > Gotya :) > > > "This release still has the following issues that will need to be > resolved > > before the Foo Project can graduate to an Apache vetted Top Level > Project” > > What about unknown issues? > By that are you suggesting that the text implies a guarantee that those are the only issues? (Otherwise I'm off into philosophy of whether the unknown can exist when the only test makes it known :) ). "The Foo Project have currently identified the following issues that will need to be resolved before the project can graduate to an Apache vetted Top Level Project” Any better? > > Are the board lawyers? :) Until you have a well-defined list, I doubt > > anything could be confirmed. I'd go with: "Conceptually what you > describe > > could lead to a situation where a PPMC releases a project fully compliant > > with the ASF's expectations. “ > > I assume you mean “not fully compliant”? > Nope. I was being defensive in my broad statements. For the given question; sure, someone might manage a perfect release someday :) Hen
Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases
Hi, Given we didn’t have consensus I’ve removed the proposal [1] and submitted the report to the board.[2] I’ve added further commentary about this thread. Feedback, as always welcome, I’ve tried to give an overview of the situation and actions going forward, but I may of missed something and it may not the the whole picture or how any individual IPMC member see it. Thanks, Justin 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/June2019 2. https://whimsy.apache.org/board/agenda/2019-06-19/Incubator - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] check LICENSE and NOTICE for Apache Tuweni
Hi, Sorry there’s been a lot going on in the last week and I’ve not been able to double check it. I will have some time this weekend if someone else can’t look before then. I had a quick look and it seems fine. I not you mention cryto code, you may need to apply for an export license. [1] Thanks, Justin 1. http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] check LICENSE and NOTICE for Apache Tuweni
I’m not sure what to do at this point. Should I make a new release candidate and hope for the best? > On Jun 8, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote: > > Is there anything else I need to get looked at? > >> On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:45 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote: >> >> Thanks Justin. >> >>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 14:30, Justin Mclean wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> If that’s no trouble, I’d rather have the text inlined and in the LICENSE file. Please let me know if that’s a problem. >>> >>> No issue it can be done either way. I won’t be able to do a full check >>> until later this week, so hopefully someone else can review it. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Justin >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
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[IP CLEARANCE] ServiceComb Toolkit project contribution
Hi Incubator PMC, The TLP Apache ServiceComb has been donated code for a toolkit, being referred to as `servicecomb-toolkit`[1], old hostsd at MaBin's personal repo[2]. This is the formal request for IP clearance to be checked as per [3]. The donated code can be found at [4] . Please check the ip-clearance filed here[5] for more information. The PMC has voted and passed to accept this donation. The ICLA of major contributors, Bin Ma and Lisen Sun have been filed before. The SGA from Huawei has been filed. Please vote to approve this contribution. This majority vote is open for at least 72 hours and as usual lazy consensus applies. [1]https://github.com/apache/servicecomb-toolkit [2]https://github.com/MabinGo/toolkit [3]https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html#form-filling [4]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-239 [5]https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/servicecomb-toolkit.html Willem Jiang - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Updated] (INCUBATOR-239) IP clearance for ServiceComb Toolkit
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-239?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Willem Jiang updated INCUBATOR-239: --- Attachment: servicecomb-toolkit.zip > IP clearance for ServiceComb Toolkit > > > Key: INCUBATOR-239 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-239 > Project: Incubator > Issue Type: Task >Reporter: Willem Jiang >Priority: Major > Attachments: servicecomb-toolkit.zip > > > Mabin is contributing the Toolkit to Apache ServiceComb. > The clearance tasks are in progress and recorded at: > https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/servicecomb-toolkit.html > This issue is partly to track that and primarily to provide an official > record of the code drop contribution. The contributed code is attached to > this issue as toolkit-master.zip > md5sum toolkit-master.zip > MD5 (toolkit-master.zip) = 8bbf00a59e0476192d3dced20e2565ef -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Created] (INCUBATOR-239) IP clearance for ServiceComb Toolkit
Willem Jiang created INCUBATOR-239: -- Summary: IP clearance for ServiceComb Toolkit Key: INCUBATOR-239 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-239 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Task Reporter: Willem Jiang Mabin is contributing the Toolkit to Apache ServiceComb. The clearance tasks are in progress and recorded at: https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/servicecomb-toolkit.html This issue is partly to track that and primarily to provide an official record of the code drop contribution. The contributed code is attached to this issue as toolkit-master.zip md5sum toolkit-master.zip MD5 (toolkit-master.zip) = 8bbf00a59e0476192d3dced20e2565ef -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org