This is the mail officially saying the Incubator are aware(not approve) of the
Zipkin community has left to their OpenZipkin org.
The repositories have been transferred back to OpenZipkin.
We have official consensus now.
I am not going to check binding or not, because like we have talked much
Hi IPMC,
The Apache Druid community has voted on and approved a proposal to release
Apache Druid (incubating) 0.15.0 (rc2).
We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
incubator release.
Apache Druid (incubating) is a high performance analytics data store for
Good effort Bertrand that's definitely some discussions we should have and
ease incubation!
To be honest I'm mentoring some projects but sometimes I'm out of
motivation due to the huge number of nitpicking tasks/requests.
I perfectly understand people reactions when they try to go trough the
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:14 PM Ted Dunning wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:17 AM Greg Stein wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:48 AM Justin Mclean
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > The VOTE was ridiculous. It can only come out "Yes", so why?
> > >
> > > Which is the outcome of
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:02 PM Alex Harui wrote:
>...
> To close with Justin's bread analogy: A bread maker that just says "just
> add yeast and flour and water, kneed, let rise and bake" and then makes you
> toss out the results and start over is not going to attract nearly as many
> students
I know this isn't the latest posts on this thread, but this is the post that
best suits what I want to say.
Almost all of my posts recently have been about trying to determine if all
policies must be attached to the same pendulum. I think I'm seeing from Ted,
Roy (in the past), and Hen that
> On Jun 19, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 7:14 PM Ted Dunning wrote:
>> ...This vote is *confirming* that
>> nobody has objections (of any form) to Zipkin leaving and control of the
>> git repos being transferred...
>
> I agree and this means
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 6:58 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
> ...I wonder if we agree on the Core issue?...
To me the core issue, as I said in the "overzealous bureaucracy"
thread is that the Incubator is perceived as a stern gatekeeper of the
ASF, due to the way we act in general.
To fix this I
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 7:14 PM Ted Dunning wrote:
> ...This vote is *confirming* that
> nobody has objections (of any form) to Zipkin leaving and control of the
> git repos being transferred...
I agree and this means that in this case a [LAZY] vote would have been
sufficient.
-Bertrand
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:17 AM Greg Stein wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:48 AM Justin Mclean
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > The VOTE was ridiculous. It can only come out "Yes", so why?
> >
> > Which is the outcome of most votes, they confirm consensus.
>
>
> A vote has two outcomes. This
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 11:10:14 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> My only comment here is that the Incubator performed a legal action in
> accepting Zipkin; in doing so, Zipkin enjoyed some level of ASF
> services as well as legal protection.
> To dissolve that 'relationship', there should be a clear
Hi -
In retrospect this phrase:
"Better documentation, relaxing ASF policy or putting off stuff until
graduation might improve things, but probably(sic) doesn't solve the core
issue.”
I wonder if we agree on the Core issue? To me the core issue is that starting
in the Incubator is hard,
Hi,
+1
Kind Regards,
Furkan KAMACI
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 7:37 PM Mark Struberg
wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 19.06.2019, 11:11 -0400 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > +1 (binding)
> >
> > > On Jun 17, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Sheng Wu
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> >
+1 (binding)
LieGrue,
strub
Am Mittwoch, den 19.06.2019, 11:11 -0400 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> +1 (binding)
>
> > On Jun 17, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > This is a call for official vote of Zipkin leave from incubator, and return
> > back to OpenZipkin.
> >
> > PPMC
Hi Justin,
You are certainly correct about this. I’ve been learning to cook the last few
years and have a cupboard full of recipes to follow.
I made a directory in the incubator git for us all to share our tools and
recipes in the hopes that they are useful.
Hi -
I agree with Greg and Bertrand to focusing on the Incubator's service
orientation. And have written in other threads that we should update our
documentation.
A podling exit needs to be visible to the Incubator here on general@. (Jim’s
clear trail)
(1) In order to maintain a record about
+1 (binding)
> On Jun 17, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Sheng Wu wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> This is a call for official vote of Zipkin leave from incubator, and return
> back to OpenZipkin.
>
> PPMC have voted.[1], carried two IPMC +1 vote from Sheng Wu and Willem Jiang
>
> There is no trademark, logo transfer,
My only comment here is that the Incubator performed a legal action in
accepting Zipkin; in doing so, Zipkin enjoyed some level of ASF services as
well as legal protection.
To dissolve that 'relationship', there should be a clear trail of intent and
action in doing so, not only by Zipkin but
An enthusiastic +1 from me, both for Bertrand's statement and Greg's
characterization of it.
: o),
Myrle
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 2:55 PM Sheng Wu wrote:
> +1 help/mentor/service
>
> That is my only goal as mentor to ShardingSphere today. Provide
> experiences and helps as much as I could.
>
>
+1 help/mentor/service
That is my only goal as mentor to ShardingSphere today. Provide experiences and
helps as much as I could.
Sheng Wu
Apache Skywalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> 在 2019年6月19日，下午7:13，Greg Stein 写道：
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:14 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
>
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:14 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:13 AM Greg Stein wrote:
> > ...Let's talk about the overzealous bureaucracy of the IPMC...
>
> IMO something that can help fix that is declaring that the IPMC's goal
> is
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:13 AM Greg Stein wrote:
> ...Let's talk about the overzealous bureaucracy of the IPMC...
IMO something that can help fix that is declaring that the IPMC's goal
is to *provide services to podlings so they can become top-level ASF
Projects".
Currently, many things
+1 (binding)
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 3:22 AM Sheng Wu wrote:
> Hi
>
> This is a call for official vote of Zipkin leave from incubator, and
> return back to OpenZipkin.
>
> PPMC have voted.[1], carried two IPMC +1 vote from Sheng Wu and Willem
> Jiang
>
> There is no trademark, logo transfer,
I don't think anyone here asked for a vote with ill-will; it was mostly a
matter of uncertainty (1). However, I do agree with Greg that only one
vote among the departing community, taken on their public list, should be
necessary when a community like Zipkin decides to leave.
Nonetheless, I did
Hi,
The IPMC does share its experiences and tools it uses, and it's up to podlings
(with their mentors help) to find out how best to use them for their releases.
There's unlikely to be a single solution that fits all podlings without a lot
more work on the podling side, which would probably
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:48 AM Justin Mclean
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > The VOTE was ridiculous. It can only come out "Yes", so why?
>
> Which is the outcome of most votes, they confirm consensus.
A vote has two outcomes. This kind of vote should never have a "no"
outcome. Thus, it is specious on its
Hi,
> The VOTE was ridiculous. It can only come out "Yes", so why?
Which is the outcome of most votes, they confirm consensus. But to be more
specific in this case, to give a clear searchable record in the mail archives
that this wasn’t a fork or other adverse situation. Others might have
Hi
> 在 2019年6月19日，下午2:12，Greg Stein 写道：
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 7:42 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
>
>> Hi David and Greg,
>>
>
>>> On Jun 18, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Justin Mclean
>> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>
>>> BTW in all previous cases of podlings exiting I could find, a vote was
>> taken (see
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 7:42 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi David and Greg,
>
> > On Jun 18, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Justin Mclean
> wrote:
>
>...
> > BTW in all previous cases of podlings exiting I could find, a vote was
> taken (see below links and there’s more I’ve not listed). In most cases
> this
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