Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)

[Kevin A. McGrail]

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On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> Agreed. I think some of the conversation on that thread was likely
> polarizing and heated and my hope is that it isn't continued in this thread
> (whether it was self-justified as being "ham-handed" or not).
>
> > On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest
> > changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to
> > present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings.
> >
> > I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator
> > being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good.
> >
> > Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented
> > basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that
> > we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past.
> >
> > If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of
> > the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed.
> >
> > I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-)
> > the general idea of this change.
> >
> > I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the
> > Incubator PMC objects.
> >
> > -Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache MXNet (incubating) version 1.5.0.rc2

[Lai Wei]

Thank you very much for voting, I have sent out the result.[1]
I think it's best to remove or replace those images, I have summarized all
license issues on GitHub to track and resolve before next release.[2]

[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/89c17ab4a14f9004dc5ad96f07f28ac79f95f5fc9c593926c740feed@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
[2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/issues/15542


Best Regards

Lai


On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 8:15 PM Jason Dai  wrote:

> +1 (binding)
>
> I checked:
>  - incubating in name
>  - Signatures and checksum look good
>  - DISCLAIMER exists
>
> Thanks,
> -Jason
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:53 AM Sheng Zha  wrote:
>
> > Dear IPMC members,
> >
> > Thank you for all the help in spotting the license issues. Given that
> they
> > are relatively minor we would like to address them in the next release.
> >
> > Since there is no longer any blocker, it would be great if you could
> > continue to vote on this release. We still need one more vote to make
> this
> > release. Thank you.
> >
> > Best,
> > -sz
> >
> > On 2019/07/17 21:50:01, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > Duane Merril (author of CUB and this file in particular) sent an
> > explanation to this list, but either his reply is stuck in moderation or
> > there was some other technical difficulty and the message is not showing
> > up. Below is the email that he sent to me.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the explanation and that looks fine to me.
> > >
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[RESULTS] [VOTE] Release Apache MXNet (incubating) version 1.5.0

[Lai Wei]

Dear community,

I'm happy to announce the results of the vote.

This vote passes with 4 +1 votes (4 binding) and no 0 or -1 votes.

+1 votes
* Paul King / binding
* Michael Wall / binding
* Justin Mclean / binding
* Jason Dai / binding

0 votes
* No votes

-1 votes
* No votes

Vote thread can be found here [1]. The list of members can be found here
[2]. I will continue with the release process and the release
announcement will follow in the next few days.


[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5365cdab7dee08d220e32decc76fd54aa05e29bc891c416828cb64d2@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

[2] http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?ctte=incubator

Best Regards

Lai

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache MXNet (incubating) version 1.5.0.rc2

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

+1 (binding) However note the image issues below, I'll leave it up to the 
project if they think it's OK to distribute these files or want to create a new 
release.

I checked:
- includbatibng in name
- signature and hashes correct
- NOTICE copyright don’t include current year ("2017 and onwards” should be 
"2017-2019")
- Several minor license issues in LICENSE (see previous emails)
- No unexpected binary files
- All ASF files have ASF headers
- Didn’t compile from source

There are a couple of images in the source distribution that are not mentioned 
in license:
1. ./contrib/clojure-package/examples/infer/objectdetector/images/marcel.jpg
2. ./contrib/clojure-package/test/test-images/Pug-Cookie.jpg
3. ./contrib/clojure-package/test/test-images/kitten.jpg
4. ./julia/examples/imagenet/ijulia-pretrained-predict/cat.png

Have the license of these images been confirmed and/or do you have permission 
from the owners to use/distribute them? If so it would be good to add those 
details to LICENSE. If not it may be best to replace those images with one of a 
known license compatible with ALv2 license.

From a quick search 1 looks to be a personal photo, 2 seems to be a stock 
photo, (but I cannot find its license), 3 has "Copyright by MaxPixel” as meta 
data (also unknown license), and 4 seem to be stock photos of unknown license.

Re 3, what I found about MaxPixel doesn’t sound good. [1] It seems they may of 
stole the image from here. [2]

Does the project want to distribute an image that may of been stolen from 
another site and copyright incorrectly claimed for it?

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://medium.com/the-daily-h/just-say-no-to-max-pixel-73ffea38eddb
2. https://pixabay.com/photos/cat-tabby-outdoors-animals-cute-1506960/
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache MXNet (incubating) version 1.5.0.rc2

[Jason Dai]

+1 (binding)

I checked:
 - incubating in name
 - Signatures and checksum look good
 - DISCLAIMER exists

Thanks,
-Jason

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:53 AM Sheng Zha  wrote:

> Dear IPMC members,
>
> Thank you for all the help in spotting the license issues. Given that they
> are relatively minor we would like to address them in the next release.
>
> Since there is no longer any blocker, it would be great if you could
> continue to vote on this release. We still need one more vote to make this
> release. Thank you.
>
> Best,
> -sz
>
> On 2019/07/17 21:50:01, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > > Duane Merril (author of CUB and this file in particular) sent an
> explanation to this list, but either his reply is stuck in moderation or
> there was some other technical difficulty and the message is not showing
> up. Below is the email that he sent to me.
> >
> > Thanks for the explanation and that looks fine to me.
> >
> > Thanks,
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Re: Question regarding Apache incubation

[Sheng Wu]

Hi

I should you could send an introduction of the project. Then, we could see 
whether people get interests.
Is it already open sourced?

Sheng Wu
Apache Skywalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin



> 在 2019年7月19日，上午3:21，Xun Hu  写道：
> 
> Hi, there,
> 
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> project.
> 
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RE: Question regarding Apache incubation

[Xun Hu]

Hi, there,
 
Currently I am leading a team to develop an inventory management system for 
Internet advertising, we would like to apply Apache incubation for this project.

Can you please help me on this? And is it possible to have a mentor to help on 
the application?

Regards,

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> 
>  
> 
> Currently I am leading a team to develop an inventory management 
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> 
>  
> 
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> help on the application?
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  
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> Chief Architect : Ads,
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[GitHub] [incubator] jvz commented on a change in pull request #12: Rework the homepage as discussed in 'overzealous bureaucracy' thread

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jvz commented on a change in pull request #12: Rework the homepage as discussed 
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URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12#discussion_r305074357
 
 

 ##
 File path: pages/index.ad
 ##
 @@ -1,37 +1,52 @@
-= Apache Incubator
+= The Apache Incubator
 Apache Incubator PMC
 2002-10-16
 :jbake-type: homepage
 :jbake-status: published
 :idprefix:
 :imagesdir: ./images/
 
-The Incubator is the entry path into The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) for 
projects and codebases wishing to become part of the Foundation's efforts. All 
code donations from external organisations and existing external projects 
wishing to join Apache enter through the Incubator.
+The Apache Incubator provides services to projects which want to enter
+the Apache Software Foundation (ASF).
 
-The Apache Incubator has two primary goals:
+It helps those incoming projects (called "podlings") adopt the Apache
+link:http://apache.org/theapacheway/[style of governance and operation]
+and guides them to the ASF services available to our projects so they
+can become top-level ASF projets ("TLPs").
 
-- Ensure all donations are in accordance with the ASF 
http://www.apache.org/licenses/[legal standards]
-- Develop new communities that adhere to our 
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html[guiding principles]
+The Incubator delegates a few mentors for each podling, as "on the
+ground" agents to act as liaisons with the various ASF teams:
+link:http://incubator.apache.org[Incubator PMC],
+link:https://selfserve.apache.org/[Infrastructure team] etc.
+and facilitate the podling's growth and operations.
 
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[GitHub] [incubator] jvz commented on a change in pull request #12: Rework the homepage as discussed in 'overzealous bureaucracy' thread

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jvz commented on a change in pull request #12: Rework the homepage as discussed 
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URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12#discussion_r305074198
 
 

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 :jbake-status: published
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 :imagesdir: ./images/
 
-The Incubator is the entry path into The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) for 
projects and codebases wishing to become part of the Foundation's efforts. All 
code donations from external organisations and existing external projects 
wishing to join Apache enter through the Incubator.
+The Apache Incubator provides services to projects which want to enter
+the Apache Software Foundation (ASF).
 
-The Apache Incubator has two primary goals:
+It helps those incoming projects (called "podlings") adopt the Apache
+link:http://apache.org/theapacheway/[style of governance and operation]
+and guides them to the ASF services available to our projects so they
+can become top-level ASF projets ("TLPs").
 
-- Ensure all donations are in accordance with the ASF 
http://www.apache.org/licenses/[legal standards]
-- Develop new communities that adhere to our 
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html[guiding principles]
+The Incubator delegates a few mentors for each podling, as "on the
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+link:http://incubator.apache.org[Incubator PMC],
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[VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.1

[Antoine Toulme]

Hi all,
The Tuweni community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Tuweni 
0.8.1.

This release includes the following changes:
* Exclude gradle wrapper jar from source distribution
* Remove binary jar file from testing resources, recreating on the fly instead
* Adding a stage task to automate staging releases

We are now bringing this proposal to the attention of the incubator PMC for a 
vote.
We have one +1 IPMC vote.

This vote will be open for no less than 72 hours.

Thanks
Antoine

Proposal:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/272c4a468f038af7b3f77b298d9f8de5e00a0f45b772c4897fbebc41@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
 


Vote result:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a3a475ce235ab14f53a00d0591b10424d6a96f34780914cfaba8f363@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
 


Releases section of the Incubation Policy:
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache MXNet (incubating) version 1.5.0.rc2

[Sheng Zha]

Dear IPMC members,

Thank you for all the help in spotting the license issues. Given that they are 
relatively minor we would like to address them in the next release.

Since there is no longer any blocker, it would be great if you could continue 
to vote on this release. We still need one more vote to make this release. 
Thank you.

Best,
-sz

On 2019/07/17 21:50:01, Justin Mclean  wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
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> > explanation to this list, but either his reply is stuck in moderation or 
> > there was some other technical difficulty and the message is not showing 
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> 
> Thanks for the explanation and that looks fine to me.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Druid (incubating) as a TLP

[Gian Merlino]

Hey Justin,

Thanks for your comments.

The other repos under https://github.com/druid-io contain projects loosely
affiliated with Apache Druid but that are not seen as part of the core
project. Some of them have ongoing discussions about whether the community
wants to migrate them to Apache (as sub projects, maybe, or as part of
Apache Druid proper) or perhaps sunset them. I expect these conversations
to continue after graduation.

On the topic of branding, the PPMC is definitely aware of its
responsibilities in that area. Internally we have updated our own project
site branding, and externally we've reached out in a few cases already to
ask for the Apache Druid name to be used correctly and to clarify the
independent nature of the project. We hadn't reached out before about the
two specific documents you mentioned, but I just did a few minutes ago.

On the topic of committers and PPMC members, from my POV the reason for
adding a bunch of committers at once was that once we started thinking
about adding more, a variety of names came up at once. I think in the
future we’ll likely invite additional people in a more typical manner.
We’ve recently invited all active committers to join the initial PMC slate,
and I expect we’d continue a policy of having an inclusive PMC.

Your point on committer merit as it relates to noncode contributions is
noted. It is something that we should keep an open mind on.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 6:33 PM Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a couple of questions/observations:
>
> What the situation/status of the repositories under
> https://github.com/druid-io?
> A quick google search turns up some branding/trademark issues e.g. [1][2]
> is the PPMC aware of this?
> Have the trademark issues been resolved?
> I note you added a number of committers but no PPMC members. Why is this?
> Is also seems that all these people were added at the same time, which
> seems a little unusual. I’m curious to why was it done that way.
> A recent discussion seems to imply that only people who commit code are
> considered for committership. You might want to reconsider that.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1.
> https://medium.com/airbnb-engineering/druid-airbnb-data-platform-601c312f2a4c
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)

[Jim Jagielski]

Agreed. I think some of the conversation on that thread was likely polarizing 
and heated and my hope is that it isn't continued in this thread (whether it 
was self-justified as being "ham-handed" or not).

> On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest
> changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to
> present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings.
> 
> I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator
> being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good.
> 
> Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented
> basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that
> we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past.
> 
> If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of
> the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed.
> 
> I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-)
> the general idea of this change.
> 
> I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the
> Incubator PMC objects.
> 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache MXNet (incubating) version 1.5.0.rc2

[Duane Merrill]

Hi,
I'm the author of CUB, and in particular, [9] (half.h) below.
>> but what about the last one [9]?
The boilerplate no-redistribution license at top of half.h was an oversight; it 
should read the same as the BSD-style headers for the rest of CUB's source 
files.  (It was cribbed from an internal project to facilitate regression 
testing, and isn't part of the core library.  I simply forgot to update the 
header when adding regression tests for that data type type.)
I've updated the source for half.h in CUB's master branch (see 
https://github.com/NVlabs/cub/blob/master/test/half.h).  However, it would be 
several days before I could qualify and tag a new release version (v1.8.1) of 
CUB.  Further, there are several other aspects of "master" that are ahead of 
the current v1.8.0 branch, which might impact your own release qualification 
process.  Let me know if snapping a new release would be a priority for you.
Happy to help,
Duane
_
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Principal Research Scientist
NVIDIA Corporation
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On 2019/07/17 05:08:08, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> Hi,>
>
> > It's added in this PR[1] which is trying to improve our LICENSE file. >
>
> Thanks for that.>
>
> > I have verified all license in the top level LICENSE file are included in>
> > source release except this MKL BLAS license.>
>
> I run the release through Fossology [1] and did some spot checks (not an 
> exhaustive check) and it found a number of things:>

> - [2] Seems to be BSD 3 clause not BSD 2 clause>
> - LICENSE seems to be missing info on [3][4][5][6][7][8] (all are permissive 
> licenses). There might be other things missing.>

> - This file [9] may be an issue as it contains "Redistribution and use in 
> source and binary forms, with or without modification, are not permitted.">

>
> There was not other category X license or included files that I could see. 
> Obviously the first 2 are fix next release sort of issues, but what about the 
> last one [9]?>

>
> Thanks,>
> Justin>
>
> 1. https://www.fossology.org>
> 2. 
> /3rdparty/onnx-tensorrt/third_party/onnx/third_party/pybind11/tools/FindPythonLibsNew.cmake>
> 3. /src/operator/contrib/erfinv-inl.h>
> 4. /3rdparty/nvidia_cub/test%2

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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)

[Ted Dunning]

That sounds good to me (the general idea at least).



On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 1:12 AM Bertrand Delacretaz 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest
> changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to
> present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings.
>
> I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator
> being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good.
>
> Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented
> basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that
> we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past.
>
> If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of
> the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed.
>
> I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-)
> the general idea of this change.
>
> I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the
> Incubator PMC objects.
>
> -Bertrand
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[VOTE][LAZY] the Incubator as a service provider for podlings (was: overzealous bureaucracy...)

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi,

As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest
changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to
present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings.

I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator
being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good.

Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented
basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that
we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past.

If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of
the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed.

I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-)
the general idea of this change.

I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the
Incubator PMC objects.

-Bertrand

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[GitHub] [incubator] bdelacretaz opened a new pull request #12: Rework the homepage as discussed in 'overzealous bureaucracy' thread

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bdelacretaz opened a new pull request #12: Rework the homepage as discussed in 
'overzealous bureaucracy' thread
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12
 
 
   I have reworked the homepage to express the Incubator's mission as providing 
services to podlings, as opposed to the current text which describes it more as 
a "stern gatekeeper to the ASF".
   
   I'll ask for general agreement about this change on the general@ list and we 
can discuss details about the proposed text here if needed.


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