Re: [MENTORS] Podling reports are due 5th
Ratis report has been updated. thanks jitendra On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:33 PM Nathan Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:13 PM Justin Mclean > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Reports are due today, still missing are: > > Annotator** > > NuttX* > > PageSpeed > > Pinot > > Ratis > > S2Graph > > SDAP > > Taverna** > > > > * which I know is being worked on > > ** Did not report last month > > > Hello, > > The NuttX report has been submitted. > > Cheers, > Nathan >
Re: [MENTORS] Podling reports are due 5th
On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:13 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > Reports are due today, still missing are: > Annotator** > NuttX* > PageSpeed > Pinot > Ratis > S2Graph > SDAP > Taverna** > > * which I know is being worked on > ** Did not report last month Hello, The NuttX report has been submitted. Cheers, Nathan
[MENTORS] Podling project report format
Hi, Can mentors please review the format of the reports when they are submitted and get PPMC to fix up any formatting issues. For the second month in a row a large amount of manual changes needed to be made. In future reports that require large amounts of manual formatting will be rejected. The instructions for the formatting are at the top of the temple and are quite clear: • Keep all lines under 76 characters long. • All content under the ### headings should be indented by two spaces. Do not use tabs. • Please don't change the text in the headings or add new ones. • Include a space after a bullet point or full stop on a numbered list. • Use [X](X and no spaces) to sign off reports. The reflow fixes some of these issue but not all, please follow them. Thanks, Justin PS I’ve BCC'ed the projects where I had to make the most changes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [MENTORS] Podling reports are due 5th
Hi, Reports are due today, still missing are: Annotator** NuttX* PageSpeed Pinot Ratis S2Graph SDAP Taverna** * which I know is being worked on ** Did not report last month Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] NLPCraft Proposal
Hi, Great proposal and an interesting project you have there: Some comments: - The common clause is a big concern, it basically means this is not open source software. The project needs to be willing to remove it and have permission to do so from all contributors. - Is nlpcraft a company name? (Website seems to imply it might be by giving it a physical address) The domains nlpcraft.com nlpcraft.net and nlpcraft.org are currently taken, will they be donated or redirected to the ASF? - A quick search of the repro shows 3rd party content of unknown licensing, are you aware of this? e.g [1] Is there a relationship between DataLingvo and NLPCraft? If so what is it? Would a software grant from them be needed? I notice a number of other files are also copyright DataLingvo. - Generally Incubator projects don’t start with a user list, is there a reason why you want to start with one? Thanks, Justin 1. ./src/main/resources/stopwords/first_words.txt.gz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache PageSpeed 1.14.36.1-rc3
Hi, > Can I raise a new VOTE thread for that? After you have VOTEed on your dev list yes. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache PageSpeed 1.14.36.1-rc3
Hi, > Well, we include > https://github.com/chromium/chromium/blob/2ca8c5037021c9d2ecc00b787d58a31ed8fc8bcb/base/third_party/nspr/LICENSE > [1] > Now I'm wondering: should that propagate to our top-level LICENSE? Ideally yes, but you are an incubating project and do include the license so IMO that’s OK. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache PageSpeed 1.14.36.1-rc3
So with some help, rc4 is now staged in the right location! https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/pagespeed/1.14.36.1-rc4/ Can I raise a new VOTE thread for that? Otto Op zo 2 feb. 2020 om 11:40 schreef Otto van der Schaaf : > Well, we include > https://github.com/chromium/chromium/blob/2ca8c5037021c9d2ecc00b787d58a31ed8fc8bcb/base/third_party/nspr/LICENSE > [1] > Now I'm wondering: should that propagate to our top-level LICENSE? > > [1] ~/rc-4/third_party/chromium/src/base/third_party/nspr$ ls -lah > > -rw-r--r-- 1 oschaaf oschaaf 1.7K Jan 31 19:52 LICENSE > . > > Op zo 2 feb. 2020 om 11:17 schreef Justin Mclean >: > >> Hi, >> >> > which doesn’t contain any compiled code plus moves to DISCLAIMER-WIP to >> track the >> > remaining issues. >> >> Great! >> >> > The MPL licensed source code is still there >> >> Have you included it’s license? >> >> > Is this a blocking issue now that we have the WIP disclaimer in place? >> >> In general not, but you still need to abide by the MPL license terms. >> >> Thanks, >> Justin >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >>
Re: [RESULT] [IP CLEARANCE] Maven Wrapper
Thanks John, I'll share this with the PMC and we'll let you now what we'll decide. Robert On 4-2-2020 17:07:31, John D. Ament wrote: To be very explicit here: - The code for the maven wrapper is fine, it's already apache licensed and has no NOTICE file declared with it, so would be perfectly fine to import. ICLA's would be nice, but not required, and adding a NOTICE indicating the origination of parts of it would also be nice but not required. - The code for the Takari Maven Plugin is EPLv1 and requires an SGA to change the license to apache license. I'd recommend the Maven PMC take this back and decide if importing just the wrapper is enough. John On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 5:20 PM Brian Fox wrote: > I do not have answers to those questions, which seems like good ones. > I just wanted to break the loop, which I think I might have ;-) > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 5:13 PM David Nalley wrote: > > > > My sense from reading this thread is that it was a 'work-for-hire' and > > that the contributors are not owners. Otherwise, why have they been > > bothering to talk to Walmart Labs? Why is a company (as opposed to > > project or indivudal(s)) listed as the copyright holder in source > > code? > > > > The copyright headers identify Takari Inc as the copyright > > holder/owner, which from this thread seems to have been acquired by > > Walmart Labs? > > > > --David > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 11:01 PM Brian Fox wrote: > > > > > > I think what Robert is highlighting was that collectively, the > > > contributors are still owners and have granted permission to use > > > another license. > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:59 PM David Nalley wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 9:27 PM Justin Mclean <> > jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > HI, > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what John wrote, part of the code is EPL which is not > compatible with the ALv2, you need the owner permission to change the > license on that.. > > > > > > > > > > My understanding of "Let me try to get in contact with Walmart > Labs to get an SGA for the Takari Maven Wrapper.” was that the next step > would be an SGA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Justin. > > > > > > > > The lack of an SGA makes this ineligible for the normal lazy > consensus route. > > > > The fact that 1 of the chunks of code you're looking at is licensed > > > > under the EPL is a further blocker. You can't relicense it without > > > > explicit permission from the owner, preferably memorialized as a SGA. > > > > > > > > While I don't think that the IP Clearance process is perfectly rigid, > > > > it is a process and this one is missing some significant parts of > that > > > > process. > > > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [RESULT] [IP CLEARANCE] Maven Wrapper
To be very explicit here: - The code for the maven wrapper is fine, it's already apache licensed and has no NOTICE file declared with it, so would be perfectly fine to import. ICLA's would be nice, but not required, and adding a NOTICE indicating the origination of parts of it would also be nice but not required. - The code for the Takari Maven Plugin is EPLv1 and requires an SGA to change the license to apache license. I'd recommend the Maven PMC take this back and decide if importing just the wrapper is enough. John On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 5:20 PM Brian Fox wrote: > I do not have answers to those questions, which seems like good ones. > I just wanted to break the loop, which I think I might have ;-) > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 5:13 PM David Nalley wrote: > > > > My sense from reading this thread is that it was a 'work-for-hire' and > > that the contributors are not owners. Otherwise, why have they been > > bothering to talk to Walmart Labs? Why is a company (as opposed to > > project or indivudal(s)) listed as the copyright holder in source > > code? > > > > The copyright headers identify Takari Inc as the copyright > > holder/owner, which from this thread seems to have been acquired by > > Walmart Labs? > > > > --David > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 11:01 PM Brian Fox wrote: > > > > > > I think what Robert is highlighting was that collectively, the > > > contributors are still owners and have granted permission to use > > > another license. > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:59 PM David Nalley wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 9:27 PM Justin Mclean < > jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > HI, > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what John wrote, part of the code is EPL which is not > compatible with the ALv2, you need the owner permission to change the > license on that.. > > > > > > > > > > My understanding of "Let me try to get in contact with Walmart > Labs to get an SGA for the Takari Maven Wrapper.” was that the next step > would be an SGA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Justin. > > > > > > > > The lack of an SGA makes this ineligible for the normal lazy > consensus route. > > > > The fact that 1 of the chunks of code you're looking at is licensed > > > > under the EPL is a further blocker. You can't relicense it without > > > > explicit permission from the owner, preferably memorialized as a SGA. > > > > > > > > While I don't think that the IP Clearance process is perfectly rigid, > > > > it is a process and this one is missing some significant parts of > that > > > > process. > > > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [DISCUSS] NLPCraft Proposal
Hi, I've checked your proposal, website, and blog posts and seems promising! I can help as a mentor if needed too. Kind Regards, Furkan KAMACI On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 1:21 PM Paul King wrote: > All sounds good to me. > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 4:30 PM Nikita Ivanov wrote: > > > Hi Paul, > > I'm one of the NLPCraft project members, let me chime in here. > > > > 1. The project is very interested in native Groovy/Kotlin/Scala model > > APIs. It is a bit unclear for now how much work needs to be done > > specifically for these languages given that NLPCraft provides a very > plain > > (and Scala-friendly) Java APIs. I think it deserves a separate deep > > conversation. > > 2. The topic of Commons Clause (with ALV2) is very clear - if and when > the > > project enters the ASF Incubator the license will change to plain Apache > > License, v2.0. There's no disagreement on this among project members. > > Thanks! > > -- > > Nikita Ivanov > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 9:35 PM Paul King wrote: > > > >> Looks like you have close to a full house for mentors. I could certainly > >> put my hat in the ring if you need another, otherwise I will certainly > be > >> an interested community member. It seems like an interesting project. I > >> would have a particular interest in Groovy/Micronaut integration. > >> > >> I did notice in the current repo, usage of the Commons Clause (with > ALV2). > >> The usage by Redis of something similar, albeit with notable > differences, > >> was controversial a little while back but seemed to die down as per > >> LEGAL-402. As someone who hasn't been following this lately, is that > >> something the project needs to manage expectations for? > >> > >> Cheers, Paul. > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 10:43 AM Konstantin Boudnik > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Good time of the time to all! > >> > > >> > I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion, > >> comments > >> > and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its > acceptance > >> > into > >> > Incubator. > >> > > >> > People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were > >> behind > >> > the > >> > Apache Ignite incubation, which I consider a huge success as the > >> community > >> > is > >> > literally thriving almost 5 years after the graduation. > >> > > >> > I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just > started > >> > privately a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the > community > >> > however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways > of > >> > doing > >> > things. Nikita Ivanov (from Ignite PMC) is very instrumental in > >> tirelessly > >> > helping this group to learn what it means to be a truly open source > >> > project. > >> > > >> > The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will > >> see > >> > it > >> > has a lot of organic connections with the rest of Apache ecosystem and > >> IMO > >> > will fit very well here and continue to grow the community. > >> > > >> > The project's proposal is available at [1]. > >> > > >> > Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide! > >> > -- > >> > With best regards, > >> > Cos > >> > > >> > [1] > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/NLPCraftProposal > >> > > >> > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] NLPCraft Proposal
All sounds good to me. On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 4:30 PM Nikita Ivanov wrote: > Hi Paul, > I'm one of the NLPCraft project members, let me chime in here. > > 1. The project is very interested in native Groovy/Kotlin/Scala model > APIs. It is a bit unclear for now how much work needs to be done > specifically for these languages given that NLPCraft provides a very plain > (and Scala-friendly) Java APIs. I think it deserves a separate deep > conversation. > 2. The topic of Commons Clause (with ALV2) is very clear - if and when the > project enters the ASF Incubator the license will change to plain Apache > License, v2.0. There's no disagreement on this among project members. > Thanks! > -- > Nikita Ivanov > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 9:35 PM Paul King wrote: > >> Looks like you have close to a full house for mentors. I could certainly >> put my hat in the ring if you need another, otherwise I will certainly be >> an interested community member. It seems like an interesting project. I >> would have a particular interest in Groovy/Micronaut integration. >> >> I did notice in the current repo, usage of the Commons Clause (with ALV2). >> The usage by Redis of something similar, albeit with notable differences, >> was controversial a little while back but seemed to die down as per >> LEGAL-402. As someone who hasn't been following this lately, is that >> something the project needs to manage expectations for? >> >> Cheers, Paul. >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 10:43 AM Konstantin Boudnik >> wrote: >> >> > Good time of the time to all! >> > >> > I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion, >> comments >> > and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its acceptance >> > into >> > Incubator. >> > >> > People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were >> behind >> > the >> > Apache Ignite incubation, which I consider a huge success as the >> community >> > is >> > literally thriving almost 5 years after the graduation. >> > >> > I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just started >> > privately a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community >> > however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways of >> > doing >> > things. Nikita Ivanov (from Ignite PMC) is very instrumental in >> tirelessly >> > helping this group to learn what it means to be a truly open source >> > project. >> > >> > The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will >> see >> > it >> > has a lot of organic connections with the rest of Apache ecosystem and >> IMO >> > will fit very well here and continue to grow the community. >> > >> > The project's proposal is available at [1]. >> > >> > Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide! >> > -- >> > With best regards, >> > Cos >> > >> > [1] >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/NLPCraftProposal >> > >> >
