Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-16 Thread toki
On 04/16/2018 07:37 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > IMO, it is inappropriate to add project managers to a project as a committer > just because they are employed by a company that has committers who are paid > to work on the project. There are some companies who have a person whose sole duty is manage

Re: Challenges using Gitbox

2018-04-11 Thread toki
On 04/11/2018 06:11 PM, Maxime Beauchemin wrote: > 3. The mailing list is a bit dated. I'm saying "a bit" here as an attempt ... > searchable. Something like Google Groups would be a huge step forward here. I'd suggest Groups.IO over Google Groups, if only because one of its features is:

Re: Thoughts on Trademarks / Existing Domains on Podling Proposals / Reports

2018-02-14 Thread toki
On 02/12/2018 11:24 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > (1) PODLINGNAMESEARCH may not be needed. Sometime in 1995/1996 time frame, "Seattle Storm Woman's Basketball" was granted a registered trademark. In 1996, The Seattle Storm Woman's Basketball team had a losing season. In 1997, The Seattle Storm

Re: [VOTE] Retire the Climate Model Data Analyzer Podling

2017-02-03 Thread toki
On 2 February 2017 4:20:43 pm PST, "John D. Amen wrote: > I am calling a vote to retire them. Does retirement mean that source code is no longer available? One description that I read implied that it was deleted, whilst a set on instructions implied that it was retained. > It was confirmed

Re: [DISCUSS] Documentation

2016-11-12 Thread toki
On 12/11/2016 04:09, Gunnar Tapper wrote: > For documentation, I couldn't find an easy way to do multi-chapter books, If AOo is meant, use Master Documents. There are a couple of use cases (^1 ), where Master Documents don't work. In those instances, virtually every solution will fail. (^2) >

Re: [DISCUSS] Documentation

2016-11-12 Thread toki
On 11/11/2016 07:46, Gunnar Tapper wrote: > there's a clear preference to use Apache OpenOffice for documentation. The driving force behind that was Sun's insistence that their own dog food be eaten. > Beyond usability (and therefore more willingness to document), it also makes > translation

Re: [DISCUSS] Olympian Incubation Proposal

2016-09-29 Thread toki
On 29/09/2016 04:01, Henry Saputra wrote: > The project will be forked off the existing Titan code base. That is a red flag. jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands,

RE: Preliminary NetBeans cost findings

2016-09-25 Thread toki
Greg wrote: >Second big example is SourceForge.net hosting the AOO binaries. If you are going to cite AOo as an example, then http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ provides an example of how easily things spin out of control, when third parties take primary responsibility for distribution of

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-24 Thread toki
On 22/09/2016 05:18, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > had a non-trivial amount of commits to then Sun NetBeans between 2002-2008. > He then drifted away from the > project but would be interested, potentially, re-engaging. Is it possible to create a "master list' of everybody who has contributed, when

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Joshua Incubator Proposal - Machine Translation Toolkit

2016-01-20 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/01/2016 11:18, Henri Yandell wrote: > 'TM'? Translation Memory. jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWn8SIAAoJEKG7hs8nSMR7h8EP/01XxxF896gbhRJBhlv5ng0J

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Joshua Incubator Proposal - Machine Translation Toolkit

2016-01-19 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/01/2016 03:38, Henri Yandell wrote: > License-wise, any expectation of problems from the GPL and LGPL depend encies? I'd also recommend closely examining the license for any TM libraries that ship with the program, with a focus on the

Re: Milagro trademark

2016-01-15 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15/01/2016 23:24, Nick Kew wrote: > Would it make sense to append the trademark assignment to a forthcomin g software grant? My recommendation would be to do the trademark assignment as one grant, and the software assignment as a second grant.

Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

2015-11-15 Thread toki
On 15/11/2015 18:20, Marko Rodriguez wrote: > 1. There is no need to have philosophical arguments (not grounded in > measurables) about what rules a project should follow (bounded by law). "Healthy" is intrinsically subjective, and as such, unmeasurable, leading to even more debates as

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-02 Thread toki
On 03/09/15 01:51, Ian C wrote: > I'm not sure on the numbers or the details. It would be a shame to alienate > them. The earliest mention of going to the attic on the ODF-Toolkit Users list was on 21 January 2014.

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-02 Thread toki
On 02/09/15 10:25, John D. Ament wrote: > I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling. This project has been torn between going to the attic, or becoming a sub-project of another project, since at least January 2014. IMNSHO, it should go to the attic, with Apache Corinthia

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-07-26 Thread toki
On 07/26/2015 04:35 PM, jan i wrote: unless we don't trust the mentors It isn't a case of not trusting the mentors, but rather, the ease with which something can be accidentally overlooked. Rephrased. The mentor is too close to the project, to see all of the errors in the project. jonathon

Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-08 Thread toki
On 07/04/2015 04:53 PM, Stefan Reich wrote: How about taking something good that WANTS TO EXIST, and supporting that? I didn't know that software was sentient. If you meant software that somebody wants to exist, I can point you to thousands of projects that got no further than a name, a

Re: Serveral legal question about donating project to Apache?

2015-06-18 Thread toki
On 06/18/2015 04:34 PM, Stefan Reich wrote: You're not a lawyer, but you let software development be controlled by lawyers? Failing to follow the advice of lawyers can have extremely expensive, and even more unpleasant consequences. The procedures setup by the Apache Software Foundation are

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-18 Thread toki
On 18/05/2015 18:35, Stefan Reich wrote: All you'd have to do is connect programmers to projects. Simple. Why all the rules? Risk Avoidance. The rules are designed to protect both the programmers, and the projects. They define/describe what is expected of each party, their rights, and their

Re: Is a Software Grant Agreement always needed for IP Clearance?

2014-04-19 Thread Toki
On 4/5/2014 8:08 AM, Rob Vesse wrote: entirely by myself though obviously Cray holds the copyright. That little datapoint is not obvious at all. Whether or not that is the case depends upon the specific wording of your contract with Cray, your legal jurisdiction, Cray's legal jurisdiction,

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2011 08:02, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: AIUI the TDF uses the LGPL. Like the Apache License (AL), the LGPL also allows proprietary software to be built on top. So, why would you break your rule for a TDF project but not an ASF one? It

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/06/2011 19:22, Sam Ruby wrote: Note: I did not read it that way (I think it is quite plausible and I read it as a bona fide attempt by IBM to shove the project down the throat of The Apache Foundation. I hope we don't need to deliberate for

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2011 13:58, Joe Schaefer wrote: Because Apache will own the brand, we can make access to the brand contingent on things like non-abuse of our OOo forums, among other things. ROTFLMAO At best, you are incredibly naive. Those policies will