[ANNOUNCE] Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.9.0 released

2019-10-14 Thread Antoine Toulme
The Apache Tuweni team is proud to announce the release of Apache Tuweni
(incubating) 0.9.0.

Apache Tuweni is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM 
languages. It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and 
deserialization codecs (e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions 
and primatives, and lots of other helpful utilities. Tuweni is 
developed for JDK 1.8 or higher, and depends on various other FOSS libraries.

Source and binary distributions can be downloaded from:
https://tuweni.apache.org/download

Release notes:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/releases/tag/v0.9.0

A big thank you to all the contributors in this milestone release!

To learn more about Tuweni and get started:
http://tuweni.apache.org/

Thanks!
The Apache Tuweni Team


Disclaimer: Apache Tuweni is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache
Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator. Incubation is
required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates
that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have
stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While
incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or
stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be
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[RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.9.0-incubating

2019-10-09 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks all!

The release vote is as follows:
4 +1s
Furkan Kamaci
Dave Fisher
Jim Jagielski
Michael Wall

0 +0
0 -1

The release has passed. I will promote the artifacts and announce the release.

Cheers!

Antoine

> On Oct 8, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Furkan KAMACI  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> +1 (binding, carrying over my vote)
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Furkan KAMACI
> 
> 7 Eki 2019 Pzt, saat 16:16 tarihinde Michael Wall  şunu
> yazdı:
> 
>> +1 binding - carry over as well
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:58 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>>> Carrying over my +1 (binding)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 5, 2019, at 8:08 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> The Tuweni community voted on and has approved a proposal to release
>>> Apache Tuweni 0.9.0-incubating.
>>>> 
>>>> Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and we would
>>> now like to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the
>>> tarball on the Tuweni Download page.
>>>> Note we have collected 3 +1 votes from IPMC members and have therefore
>>> the necessary minimum votes.
>>>> 
>>>> The following changes were made since 0.8.2:
>>>> * Scuttlebutt improvements: we now support calling the social graphs
>> and
>>> additional RPC methods.
>>>> * Hobbits v3 support: we use binary messages.
>>>> * SSZ improvements for homogeneous types
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Antoine
>>>> 
>>>> Vote thread:
>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/95256d891a80a3bb9edabddebe8bddf6a3ad246b541a6b75665d10a2@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
>>>> 
>>>> Vote result:
>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/caf4b015c6b0bdf94e44af2fc07e41f41dff9016e7e55ebd9811d215@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
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[VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.9.0-incubating

2019-10-05 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hi all,
The Tuweni community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Apache 
Tuweni 0.9.0-incubating.

Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and we would now like 
to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the tarball on the 
Tuweni Download page.
Note we have collected 3 +1 votes from IPMC members and have therefore the 
necessary minimum votes.

The following changes were made since 0.8.2:
* Scuttlebutt improvements: we now support calling the social graphs and 
additional RPC methods.
* Hobbits v3 support: we use binary messages.
* SSZ improvements for homogeneous types


Thanks
Antoine

Vote thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/95256d891a80a3bb9edabddebe8bddf6a3ad246b541a6b75665d10a2@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E

Vote result:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/caf4b015c6b0bdf94e44af2fc07e41f41dff9016e7e55ebd9811d215@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
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[ANNOUNCE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.2 released

2019-09-23 Thread Antoine Toulme
The Apache Tuweni team is proud to announce the release of Apache Tuweni
(incubating) 0.8.2.

Apache Tuweni is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM 
languages. It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and 
deserialization codecs (e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions 
and primatives, and lots of other helpful utilities. Tuweni is 
developed for JDK 1.8 or higher, and depends on various other FOSS libraries.

Source and binary distributions can be downloaded from:
https://tuweni.apache.org/download

Release notes are at:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/releases/tag/v0.8.2

A big thank you to all the contributors in this milestone release!

To learn more about Tuweni and get started:
http://tuweni.apache.org/
Thanks!
The Apache Tuweni Team


Disclaimer: Apache Tuweni is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache
Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator. Incubation is
required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates
that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have
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incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or
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[ANNOUNCE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.2 released

2019-09-22 Thread Antoine Toulme
The Apache Tuweni team is proud to announce the release of Apache Tuweni
(incubating) 0.8.2.

Apache Tuweni is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM 
languages. It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and 
deserialization codecs (e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions 
and primatives, and lots of other helpful utilities. Tuweni is 
developed for JDK 1.8 or higher, and depends on various other FOSS libraries.

Source and binary distributions can be downloaded from:
https://tuweni.apache.org/download

Release notes are at:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/releases/tag/v0.8.2

A big thank you to all the contributors in this milestone release!

To learn more about Tuweni and get started:
http://tuweni.apache.org/
Thanks!
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[RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.2

2019-09-10 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks everyone.

The vote has concluded.

4 +1 votes:
Michael Wall (binding)
Furkan Kamaci (binding)
Kevin Ratnasekera (binding)
Jean-Baptiste Onofré (binding)

0 +0 votes
0 -1 votes

The vote has passed and the release is approved!

I will publish the release.

Thanks all,

Antoine

> On Sep 6, 2019, at 7:37 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> 
> +1 (binding/carry over)
> 
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 4:13 AM Furkan KAMACI  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> +1 (Binding - Carrying my vote)
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Furkan KAMACI
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 9:15 AM Kevin Ratnasekera 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> +1 ( binding )
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:37 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> +1 (binding)
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>> 
>>>> On 06/09/2019 06:37, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> The Tuweni community voted on and has approved a proposal to release
>>>> Apache Tuweni 0.8.2.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and we
>> would
>>>> now like to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the
>>>> tarball on the Tuweni Download page.
>>>>> Note we have collected 3 +1 votes from IPMC members and have
>> therefore
>>>> the necessary minimum votes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Changelog:
>>>>> * Only include necessary code for testing Ethereum
>>>>> * Fix provenance of SECP256K1 class
>>>>> * Fix header of SECP256K1 class
>>>>> * Fix stage task
>>>>> * Make build reproducible
>>>>> * Trace ProgPow algorithm in class explicitly
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Antoine
>>>>> 
>>>>> Vote thread:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/462f6c76c9f3d9a7ea09e3cf6c46ded8e775cb52db4edf30f8d43f0c@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
>>>>> 
>>>>> Vote result:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba2027f5981d8337a277a43244714a748167d4ca27301519687aa5d@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
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[VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.2

2019-09-05 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hi all,
The Tuweni community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Apache 
Tuweni 0.8.2.

Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and we would now like 
to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the tarball on the 
Tuweni Download page.
Note we have collected 3 +1 votes from IPMC members and have therefore the 
necessary minimum votes.

Changelog:
* Only include necessary code for testing Ethereum
* Fix provenance of SECP256K1 class
* Fix header of SECP256K1 class
* Fix stage task
* Make build reproducible
* Trace ProgPow algorithm in class explicitly


Thanks
Antoine

Vote thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/462f6c76c9f3d9a7ea09e3cf6c46ded8e775cb52db4edf30f8d43f0c@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E

Vote result:
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Re: Showcase your project at ApacheCON at a Podling's Shark Tank

2019-08-15 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hello Roman,

The Tuweni podling is interested. I am attending ApacheCon EU and would like a 
chance to present.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Aug 14, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Roman Shaposhnik  wrote:
> 
> Hi Podlings!
> 
> in less than a month we're going to have our first
> ApacheCON this year -- the one in Las Vegas. In
> about two month there will be one more in Berlin.
> 
> These are not your regular ApacheCONs -- these are
> 20th Anniversary of ASF ApacehCONs! In other words,
> these are not to be missed!
> 
> And even if your talk didn't get accepted -- you still
> get an opportunity to highlight your project to, what's
> likely going to be the biggest audience attending.
> 
> Here's how: if you (or any community member who's
> passionate about your project) are going to be at either
> of those ApacheCONs consider signing up for
>Podling's Shark Tank
> events:
>https://www.apachecon.com/acna19/s/#/scheduledEvent/1038
>https://aceu19.apachecon.com/session/podlings-shark-tank
> 
> Each project presenting will get ~10 min for the pitch and ~5 min
> of panel grilling them on all sorts of things. Kind of like this ;-)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmenN7NEdBc
> 
> You've got nothing to lose (in fact, the opposite: you're likely to get
> a prize!) and you will get a chance to receive feedback that might
> actually help you grow your community and ultimately graduate to the
> TLP status. And! Given our awesome panel of judges:
> * Myrle Krantz
> * Justin Mclean
> * Craig Russel
> * Shane Curcuru
> We guarantee this to be a fun and useful event for your community!
> 
> We will be tracking signups over here:
> https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACNA19PodlingSharkTank
> https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACEU19PodlingSharkTank
> but for now:
> 
> SIMPLY REPLY TO THIS EMAIL if you're interested.
> 
> It is first come, first serve -- so don't delay -- sign up today!
> 
> Thanks,
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[ANNOUNCE] Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.8.1

2019-08-06 Thread Antoine Toulme
The Apache Tuweni team is proud to announce the release of Apache Tuweni
(incubating) 0.8.1.

Apache Tuweni is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM 
languages. It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and 
deserialization codecs (e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions 
and primatives, and lots of other helpful utilities. Tuweni is 
developed for JDK 1.8 or higher, and depends on various other FOSS libraries.

Apache Tuweni 0.8.1-incubating is our second release under the Apache incubator.
Source and binary distributions can be downloaded from:
https://tuweni.apache.org/download

Release notes are at:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/releases/tag/v0.8.1

A big thank you to all the contributors in this milestone release!



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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubation Proposal of MesaTEE

2019-08-05 Thread Antoine Toulme
I support this proposal and would like to be listed in the interested parties.

Cheers,

Antoine Toulme

> On Aug 5, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Zhijie Shen  wrote:
> 
> BTW, I saw MSR has an interesting research work to integrate MapReduce with
> SGX to analyze big data in an privacy-preserved way:
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/vc3-oakland2015.pdf.
> I'm looking forward to the potential integration between this project with
> a few big data project under ASF.
> 
> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 10:07 AM Mingshen Sun  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for your interests.
>> 
>> Regarding to you question, no, you cannot use it to sandbox arbitrary code.
>> Trusted computing/confidential computing is not just about isolation and
>> sandbox.
>> For the SGX setup, because lots of sources (e.g., system calls, IO
>> functions, etc.)
>> are not trusted, which will break the treat model of trusted computing.
>> Normally, you should design a code with “trusted” part and “untrusted”
>> part.
>> For legacy code, it needs to be carefully tailored or separated. But
>> sometimes,
>> untrusted sources are still needed (e.g., a web service needs network
>> capabilities),
>> they should be as minimal as possible and easy to audit.
>> 
>> Yesterday, ted gave a very good use case (
>> https://signal.org/blog/private-contact-discovery/).
>> But there are others listed in the doc:
>> https://github.com/mesalock-linux/mesatee/blob/master/docs/case_study.md
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 8:37 AM, Matt Sicker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve read through a bit of the site and blog posts. I’m pretty interested
>>> in the project, especially any efforts to support more programming
>>> languages.
>>> 
>>> Is it possible to use this to sandbox arbitrary code?
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 17:22, Mingshen Sun 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, this project can be used for securing general computations.
>>>> You can simply use the `mesatee_core` library to write an SGX encalve.
>>>> In addition, MesaTEE provides others features like function as a
>> service.
>>>> That’s why we call it a universal securing computing framework.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Mingshen Sun
>>>> 
>>>> On 2019/08/03 15:27:41, Matt Sicker  wrote:
>>>>> Would this project be useful in securing general computations? You
>>>> mention>
>>>>> big data and AI a lot, though I’m wondering if this is also usable for>
>>>>> things like, say, general multi tenant applications?>
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 03:27, Mingshen Sun 
>>>> wrote:>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is Mingshen Sun from Baidu X-Lab. Recently, we have open-sourced>
>>>>>> a universal secure computing framework called MesaTEE (>
>>>>>> https://mesatee.org/).>
>>>>>> The MesaTEE project enables general computing service for>
>>>>>> security-critical scenarios,>
>>>>>> which attracts many attentions from academia and industry.>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To better build up the whole ecosystem, we decide to donate the
>>>> MesaTEE>
>>>>>> project to>
>>>>>> Apache Foundation. Therefore, we’d like to propose our project to go>
>>>>>> through>
>>>>>> the incubation process.>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Attached is our incubation proposal for open discussion. Thank you so
>>>> much.>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,>
>>>>>> Mingshen Sun>
>>>>>> Baidu X-Lab>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is the proposal details:>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ==>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MesaTEE Apache Incubation Proposal>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> = Abstract =>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MesaTEE is a framework for universal secure computing.>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> = Proposal =>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MesaTEE is the next-gen solution to enable general computing service
>>>> for>
>>>>>> security-critical scenarios. It will allow even the most sen

[RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.1

2019-07-23 Thread Antoine Toulme
The vote has concluded with the following results:

3 +1 votes:
Furkan Kamaci
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Jim Jagielski

1 +0 vote:
Justin Mclean

0 -1 votes

The release vote has passed. Thanks all!

Antoine


> On Jul 23, 2019, at 08:13, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
> 
> +1 (binding)
> 
> NB: we should address Justin's comments in next release cycle.
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
>> On 18/07/2019 20:28, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> The Tuweni community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Tuweni 
>> 0.8.1.
>> 
>> This release includes the following changes:
>> * Exclude gradle wrapper jar from source distribution
>> * Remove binary jar file from testing resources, recreating on the fly 
>> instead
>> * Adding a stage task to automate staging releases
>> 
>> We are now bringing this proposal to the attention of the incubator PMC for 
>> a vote.
>> We have one +1 IPMC vote.
>> 
>> This vote will be open for no less than 72 hours.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Antoine
>> 
>> Proposal:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/272c4a468f038af7b3f77b298d9f8de5e00a0f45b772c4897fbebc41@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
>>  
>> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/272c4a468f038af7b3f77b298d9f8de5e00a0f45b772c4897fbebc41@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E>
>> 
>> Vote result:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a3a475ce235ab14f53a00d0591b10424d6a96f34780914cfaba8f363@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
>>  
>> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a3a475ce235ab14f53a00d0591b10424d6a96f34780914cfaba8f363@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E>
>> 
>> Releases section of the Incubation Policy:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases 
>> <http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases>
> 
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.1

2019-07-23 Thread Antoine Toulme
We miss one vote for this vote to conclude. Any IPMC member available to vote 
on this?

> On Jul 21, 2019, at 09:13, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Acknowledged. We will fix those issues in the next release.
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2019, at 21:02, Justin Mclean  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> +0 (binding)
>> 
>> This release includes Category X software (which is incompatible with ALv2) 
>> and it's not following the terms of the GPL license. While this thread [12] 
>> indicates incubating releases can include Category X they still need to 
>> follow the terms of the included licenses.  This is also dependent on the 
>> incubator being “special” and it releases allowed to not confirm to policy 
>> (unlike other TLP projects) this is this still as yet to be 
>> confirmed/allowed.
>> 
>> I checked:
>> - incubating in name
>> - disclaimer exists
>> - LICENSE has a few minor issues
>> - NOTICE is fine
>> - Includes Category X licensed software [4] It also looks like these files 
>> [6][7][8][9] come from [10][11] and are also GPL licensed.
> These are coming from the ethereum tests repo. I think we will find a new way 
> to package sources without those tests and check out the git repo at test 
> time then. Does that work?
>> - No unexpected binary files
>> - A few source files (.sh and piton scripts) are missing headers (how I came 
>> across [4]), would be good to add them.
>> 
>> In LICENSE I noticed that:
>> - This file [1] is under ALv2 but they have modified the license [2] and 
>> added an extra condition (top of file) so may not be ALv2 compatible. Please 
>> check with legal discuss.
> Both web3j and Tuweni took this class from the Bitcoinj project. The file 
> mentions its origins. I can change the header as needed.
>> - There files seem to have incorrect headers [1][3] as they have not been 
>> licensed to the ASF. I believe they should have the AL 3rd party header.
> Got it, will fix, thanks!
>> - The license mentions the ProgPoW algorithm but it unclear where it’s being 
>> used. I assume here [5] but there's nothing in that file that indicate it 
>> contains 3rd party code or that it’s CC0 licensed.
> OK we will fix.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>> 
>> 1. crypto/src/main/java/org/apache/tuweni/crypto/SECP256K1.java
>> 2. https://github.com/web3j/web3j/blob/master/LICENSE
>> 3. crypto/src/main/java/org/apache/tuweni/crypto/SECP256K1.java
>> 4. eth-reference-tests/src/test/resources/tests/ansible/ec2.py
>> 5. ./progpow/src/main/java/org/apache/tuweni/progpow/ProgPoW.java
>> 6. 
>> /eth-reference-tests/src/test/resources/tests/ansible/test-files/docker-cpp/Docker-file
>> 7. 
>> /eth-reference-tests/src/test/resources/tests/ansible/test-files/docker-cppjit/Dockerfile
>> 
>> 8  
>> ./eth-reference-tests/src/test/resources/tests/ansible/test-files/docker-python/Dockerfile
>> 9 
>> ./eth-reference-tests/src/test/resources/tests/ansible/test-files/docker-go/Dockerfile
>> 10. https://github.com/ethereum/aleth/blob/master/LICENSE
>> 11. https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/blob/master/COPYING
>> 12. 
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.1

2019-07-21 Thread Antoine Toulme
Acknowledged. We will fix those issues in the next release.

> On Jul 19, 2019, at 21:02, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> +0 (binding)
> 
> This release includes Category X software (which is incompatible with ALv2) 
> and it's not following the terms of the GPL license. While this thread [12] 
> indicates incubating releases can include Category X they still need to 
> follow the terms of the included licenses.  This is also dependent on the 
> incubator being “special” and it releases allowed to not confirm to policy 
> (unlike other TLP projects) this is this still as yet to be confirmed/allowed.
> 
> I checked:
> - incubating in name
> - disclaimer exists
> - LICENSE has a few minor issues
> - NOTICE is fine
> - Includes Category X licensed software [4] It also looks like these files 
> [6][7][8][9] come from [10][11] and are also GPL licensed.
These are coming from the ethereum tests repo. I think we will find a new way 
to package sources without those tests and check out the git repo at test time 
then. Does that work?
> - No unexpected binary files
> - A few source files (.sh and piton scripts) are missing headers (how I came 
> across [4]), would be good to add them.
>
> In LICENSE I noticed that:
> - This file [1] is under ALv2 but they have modified the license [2] and 
> added an extra condition (top of file) so may not be ALv2 compatible. Please 
> check with legal discuss.
Both web3j and Tuweni took this class from the Bitcoinj project. The file 
mentions its origins. I can change the header as needed.
> - There files seem to have incorrect headers [1][3] as they have not been 
> licensed to the ASF. I believe they should have the AL 3rd party header.
Got it, will fix, thanks!
> - The license mentions the ProgPoW algorithm but it unclear where it’s being 
> used. I assume here [5] but there's nothing in that file that indicate it 
> contains 3rd party code or that it’s CC0 licensed.
OK we will fix.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 1. crypto/src/main/java/org/apache/tuweni/crypto/SECP256K1.java
> 2. https://github.com/web3j/web3j/blob/master/LICENSE
> 3. crypto/src/main/java/org/apache/tuweni/crypto/SECP256K1.java
> 4. eth-reference-tests/src/test/resources/tests/ansible/ec2.py
> 5. ./progpow/src/main/java/org/apache/tuweni/progpow/ProgPoW.java
> 6. 
> /eth-reference-tests/src/test/resources/tests/ansible/test-files/docker-cpp/Docker-file
> 7. 
> /eth-reference-tests/src/test/resources/tests/ansible/test-files/docker-cppjit/Dockerfile
> 
> 8  
> ./eth-reference-tests/src/test/resources/tests/ansible/test-files/docker-python/Dockerfile
> 9 
> ./eth-reference-tests/src/test/resources/tests/ansible/test-files/docker-go/Dockerfile
> 10. https://github.com/ethereum/aleth/blob/master/LICENSE
> 11. https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/blob/master/COPYING
> 12. 
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[VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.1

2019-07-18 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hi all,
The Tuweni community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Tuweni 
0.8.1.

This release includes the following changes:
* Exclude gradle wrapper jar from source distribution
* Remove binary jar file from testing resources, recreating on the fly instead
* Adding a stage task to automate staging releases

We are now bringing this proposal to the attention of the incubator PMC for a 
vote.
We have one +1 IPMC vote.

This vote will be open for no less than 72 hours.

Thanks
Antoine

Proposal:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/272c4a468f038af7b3f77b298d9f8de5e00a0f45b772c4897fbebc41@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
 


Vote result:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a3a475ce235ab14f53a00d0591b10424d6a96f34780914cfaba8f363@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
 


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-07-11 Thread Antoine Toulme
Yes, I have sent a separate email to the users list, and an email to the 
announce list.

I however didn’t send it to the dev list.

> On Jul 11, 2019, at 3:48 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
> 
> Congrats, Antoine and Apache Tuweni (Incubating) Community!
> Have you sent a separate email to the dev@ and user@ tuweni lists as well?
> If not, we should just include them on this one.
> 
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 8:51 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
>> w00t!
>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2019, at 11:59 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Apache Tuweni team is proud to announce the release of Apache Tuweni
>>> (incubating) 0.8.0.
>>> 
>>> Apache Tuweni is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
>>> blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM
>>> languages. It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and
>>> deserialization codecs (e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions
>>> and primatives, and lots of other helpful utilities. Tuweni is
>>> developed for JDK 1.8 or higher, and depends on various other FOSS
>> libraries.
>>> 
>>> Apache Tuweni 0.8.0-incubating is our first release under the Apache
>> incubator.
>>> Source and binary distributions can be downloaded from:
>>> https://tuweni.apache.org/download
>>> 
>>> Release notes are at:
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/releases/tag/v0.8.0
>>> 
>>> A big thank you to all the contributors in this milestone release!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Disclaimer: Apache Tuweni is an effort undergoing incubation at The
>> Apache
>>> Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator. Incubation
>> is
>>> required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates
>>> that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have
>>> stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects.
>> While
>>> incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or
>>> stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be
>>> fully endorsed by the ASF.
>>> 
>>> Please note the source distribution of Apache Tuweni contains a binary
>> file,
>>> the Gradle wrapper jar file. This file will be removed in the next
>> release.
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[ANNOUNCE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-07-09 Thread Antoine Toulme
The Apache Tuweni team is proud to announce the release of Apache Tuweni
(incubating) 0.8.0.

Apache Tuweni is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM 
languages. It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and 
deserialization codecs (e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions 
and primatives, and lots of other helpful utilities. Tuweni is 
developed for JDK 1.8 or higher, and depends on various other FOSS libraries.

Apache Tuweni 0.8.0-incubating is our first release under the Apache incubator.
Source and binary distributions can be downloaded from:
https://tuweni.apache.org/download

Release notes are at:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/releases/tag/v0.8.0

A big thank you to all the contributors in this milestone release!



Disclaimer: Apache Tuweni is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache
Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator. Incubation is
required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates
that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have
stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While
incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or
stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be
fully endorsed by the ASF.

Please note the source distribution of Apache Tuweni contains a binary file, 
the Gradle wrapper jar file. This file will be removed in the next release.
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-27 Thread Antoine Toulme
I’m not quite sure what to do. If I don’t hear by tomorrow I’ll close this vote 
as passing.

> On Jun 27, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Greg Stein  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:34 AM Justin Mclean 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> I see a lot of "oh no. a bad file". What is the takeaway from that? "The
>>> IPMC thinks we should not release.”
>> 
>> Has anyone voted -1? Nope. And even if they did a -1 vote is not a veto.
>> 
> 
> Great. Semantics. "But I didn't really say veto."
> 
> Your "not allowed" is read as a veto by any reasonably-minded person. If
> you think it should NOT be read as -1, then put a +1 into your message.
> That did not happen. So it is NOT read as +1 for the podling. I added my +1
> as the third. Mostly to get it over with, and (honestly:) for some spite
> about the whole process.
> 
> Look. Clearly this discussion is about rulesmithing to keep the status quo.
> Carry on.
> 
> Maybe I should say you're being an ass about the whole process. :-)
> 
> -g
> 
> ps. per your rules [1], I put a smiley on that sentence, so it doesn't mean
> anything.
> [1]
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201906.mbox/%3CA2A7580A-20DA-4894-9590-14D563C3D0E0%40me.com%3E


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Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-24 Thread Antoine Toulme
We have been working on improving the situation. The gradle wrapper is no 
longer checked in sources, and the README has been updated to make sure folks 
can build from source and download the wrapper as needed.

Unfortunately I missed something and the jar found its way into the 
distributions.

There’s more discussion on this in our voting thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7ad88c9725d954f0c58968b3ba53da007b8b48079fe24ee908e03a04@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
 


> On Jun 24, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I see that the gradle jar is still in the source release. This was discussed 
> last release [1] and as discussed previously [2] this is currently not 
> allowed. It was mentioned in the last release vote that the gradle jar was 
> removed, but it seems it hasn’t been?
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 1. 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/3663edfcf137f9359ed2f426e290a6eca5a16e5144c6d209782889ce@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> 2.  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-288
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[VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-24 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hi all,
The Tuweni community voted on and has approved a proposal to release
Tuweni 0.8.0. Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation
Policy and we would now like to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to 
publish the
tarball on the Tuweni Download page.
Note we have collected 4 +1 votes from IPMC members and have therefore the 
necessary minimum votes.

Please vote by 12 PM Paris time Thursday, 6/27.

Thanks
Antoine

Proposal:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7ad88c9725d954f0c58968b3ba53da007b8b48079fe24ee908e03a04@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
 


Vote result:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2d4ac9cc208218e87d916a9bfc01faec53b30a5e714fe1d632f5fe8c@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
 


Releases section of the Incubation Policy:
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases



Re: [DISCUSS] check LICENSE and NOTICE for Apache Tuweni

2019-06-12 Thread Antoine Toulme
I’m not sure what to do at this point. Should I make a new release candidate 
and hope for the best?

> On Jun 8, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Is there anything else I need to get looked at?
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:45 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Justin.
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 14:30, Justin Mclean  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>> If that’s no trouble, I’d rather have the text inlined and in the LICENSE 
>>>> file. Please let me know if that’s a problem.
>>> 
>>> No issue it can be done either way. I won’t be able to do a full check 
>>> until later this week, so hopefully someone else can review it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] check LICENSE and NOTICE for Apache Tuweni

2019-06-08 Thread Antoine Toulme
Is there anything else I need to get looked at?

> On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:45 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Justin.
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 14:30, Justin Mclean  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> If that’s no trouble, I’d rather have the text inlined and in the LICENSE 
>>> file. Please let me know if that’s a problem.
>> 
>> No issue it can be done either way. I won’t be able to do a full check until 
>> later this week, so hopefully someone else can review it.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] check LICENSE and NOTICE for Apache Tuweni

2019-06-06 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks Justin.

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 14:30, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> If that’s no trouble, I’d rather have the text inlined and in the LICENSE 
>> file. Please let me know if that’s a problem.
> 
> No issue it can be done either way. I won’t be able to do a full check until 
> later this week, so hopefully someone else can review it.
> 
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Re: late learnings, which could be helpful for all mentors to know

2019-06-04 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks Adrian, this is all good to know.

> On Jun 4, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Adrian Cole  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> Through Zipkin's incubation, I noticed that knowledge of state of the
> art is not equally distributed. Some voting approaches already in use
> aren't known. Also what you can use to automate isn't known. As
> podlings don't always know the right questions to ask, it might be
> beneficial for future podlings if some advice about state of the art
> was taught instead. This is especially important as many projects will
> likely want to import multiple repos. I will inventory some.
> 
> * "parallel votes" is a technique to reduce the lag between dev@ and
> general@ by starting the IPMC vote slightly after, but before
> conclusion of the PPMC one. This may have only been tried once (in
> Zipkin) and met resistance.
> * "bundled votes" is a technique where multiple repos are sent in a
> single vote. This is much more efficient for coupled repos than
> pipelining. OpenWhisk uses this and don't appear to have met
> resistance.
> * not all repos need to actually release prior to graduation. Both
> Dubbo and OpenWhisk had unreleased repos when they called for
> graduation (OpenWhisk has dozens). It isn't intuitive for projects to
> know they don't have to release every repo, so they should be told
> this.
> * Jenkins is most ASF, but Travis is ok, but CircleCI is not, and
> maybe Appveyor is ok.  All we know now, is that CircleCI is not ok,
> which is personally fine, but basically people should be able to know
> what CI tools are allowed to be used.
> * You are allowed to automate release process, even with Travis. It
> can be confusing to know what you are allowed to automate, and whether
> it must be done with ASF infra etc. The most elaborate example is
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-release
> * ASF tools like RAT and the release plugin are barely maintained in
> comparison with Incubator policy. It is unintuitive that tools
> projects use to audit themselves don't evolve lock-step with general
> software, policy and discussion. This feels bad whenever told, but
> earlier is better.
> 
> Anyway, figured I would send off these notes so that folks entering
> the incubator don't end up with a lot of unnecessary grief, irritation
> due to ignorance about state of the art, or the disparity between
> project-specific ASF tools and general ASF tools.
> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] check LICENSE and NOTICE for Apache Tuweni

2019-06-03 Thread Antoine Toulme
If that’s no trouble, I’d rather have the text inlined and in the LICENSE file. 
Please let me know if that’s a problem.

I updated the LICENSE file. Please kindly review [0] and [1] and let me know if 
this is acceptable.

[0]:https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/blob/master/LICENSE 
 
>
[1]:https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/blob/master/NOTICE 
 
>

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:10 AM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> The CC0 dependencies are public domain. Do you have an example of dealing 
>> with public domain dependencies?
> 
> Treat it the same as other permissive licenses [1] i.e put a reference to the 
> license text to a file containing the text in the release.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 1. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#permissive-deps
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Re: [DISCUSS] check LICENSE and NOTICE for Apache Tuweni

2019-06-02 Thread Antoine Toulme
OK, I inlined the MIT license texts from the various dependencies.

Does this look better?

The CC0 dependencies are public domain. Do you have an example of dealing with 
public domain dependencies?

> On Jun 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When use the short form of including a LICNSE, you need to include a link to 
> the file containing license text not a URL. Some projects make a licenses 
> directory and put the licenses in that. MIT requires you include the full 
> text of the license and a URL doesn’t quite cover that.
> 
> There’s no needs for "consult the list of dependencies…” in the NOTICE file.
> 
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> Justin
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.7.0

2019-06-02 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks. I did some research and removed the gradle wrapper just now.

> On Jun 2, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>>> The two archives in the source release make sense as exceptions. A 
>>> rewritten README.md would explain the gradle wrapper.
> 
> One does as it contains no code, but the gradle wrapper is not allowed. This 
> has been discussed before on this list, and also see [1] which suggests a way 
> around this.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-288
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[DISCUSS] check LICENSE and NOTICE for Apache Tuweni

2019-06-02 Thread Antoine Toulme
Folks,

Would you please kindly review the NOTICE [0] and LICENSE [1] files for Apache 
Tuweni?

Feedback is very welcome.

Thanks,

Antoine

[0]:https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/blob/master/LICENSE 

[1]:https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/blob/master/NOTICE 


Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.7.0

2019-06-02 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks for the review. I originally replied on the private list. I’ll reply 
again here:

> On May 31, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Apologies for the delay.
> 
> -1 (binding)
> 
> Policy violations:
> The missing DISCLAIMER in the source release is a blocker.
> Please move https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/tuweni to 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/tuweni for the next 
> candidate.
Ack.
> 
> I checked the signatures and checksums.
> I checked LICENSE and NOTICE. There can be some improvements for the binary 
> packages, but these are not blockers on a first release.
Please report what could be improved - maybe in a different thread?
> The tgz and zip versions diffs match.
> 
> README.md should be directed towards building and not to advertising nightly 
> snapshots and referencing project build infrastructure. CI builds are not 
> what projects produce. Releases are what projects produce. CI builds are for 
> the project developer community and not the project user community.
I have opened a thread on the dev list to discuss this further on May 17th - 
any chance we can discuss more there?
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6df8364a753e225a8f7f0b7a42acb8c3bcafa79191cb46359f4643ee@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
 
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> 
> My ./gradlew build fails in the javadoc with
> tuweni-src-0.7.0/progpow/src/main/java/org/apache/tuweni/progpow/ProgPoW.java:29:
>  error: unknown tag: implSpe
> * @implSpec https://github.com/ifdefelse/ProgPOW
>  ^
As I mentioned, this denotes that you are using a very old version of Java. 
Please report your setup and file a bug.
> 
> RAT Check is pretty good once the eth-reference tests are excluded.
I have opened a thread on the dev list to discuss if the .rat-excludes should 
be shipped with the source distro.
Any chance you can reply there with more info?
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5ce223348b003295a8b68a3105b28a267ed1aa61689b5b43e596@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
 
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> 
> The two archives in the source release make sense as exceptions. A rewritten 
> README.md would explain the gradle wrapper.
> 
> The file licenses/license-dependency.xml is very helpful. How is it generated?
This file is generated by the build using the script 
gradle/check-licenses.gradle.
> 
> Since Tuweni includes Crypto code the podling will need to file export 
> controls with the release [1]
I might not get to this for a little while. Please let me know if this is a 
release blocker. Would you mind filing a bug?
> 
> HTH,
> Dave
> 
> [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>> 
>> I could not find the disclaimer from
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers anywhere in
>> the release.
>> 
>> Kenn
>> 
>> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 11:47 AM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello IPMC,
>>> 
>>> The Apache Tuweni community has voted on and approved a proposal to
>>> release Apache Tuweni (incubating) version 0.7.0.
>>> 
>>> The voting thread can be found here:
>>> 
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/65cc15293b9bc3598d0c3ca8ba4f7dbc402b6064372c14f0fae0d295@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
>>> 
>>> Two binding +1 vote from mentors Jim Jagielski and Larry McCay carry over
>>> from the dev list thread.
>>> 
>>> We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
>>> incubator release.
>>> 
>>> Tuweni is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
>>> blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM languages.
>>> 
>>> It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and deserialization
>>> codecs (e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions and primatives, and lots
>>> of other helpful utilities.
>>> The release candidates:
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/tuweni/0.7.0/
>>> 
>>> Git tag for the release:
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/tree/v0.7.0
>>> 
>>> Hash for the release tag: a8d55b7cd9196895a1b44be58cc33ef9d999c10b
>>> 
>>> The artifacts have been signed with Key: 5E469BCB, which can be found in
>>> the keys file:
>>> 
>>> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/tuweni/KEYS
>>> 

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.7.0

2019-06-02 Thread Antoine Toulme
OK thanks for the review.
I have applied some of the fixes here:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/commit/fa12f390165559a4afaf522c02672adbcd9dfb67
 


I’ll open another thread to discuss.


> On May 31, 2019, at 8:29 PM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> -1 for missing DISCLAIMER, GPL source code in the release and a compiled code 
> in the release.
> 
> I suggest you use a checklist like this one to help you. [1]. This page is 
> also very useful when making your license and notice filed [2].
> 
> If you need any help or want the IPMC to check think before you make a 
> release just ask.
> 
> I checked:
> - incubating in name
> - DISCLAIMER is missing
> - LICENSE is missing a number of things (see below)
> - NOTICE contains license information that should be in LICENSE
> - Source file have ASF headers
> - There’s an unexpected binary file in the release [11]
> - THE GPL licensed content in the release
> - I didn’t try to compile the code
> 
> LICENSE is missing license:
> - for this this file [3] which may be this [4]
> - this file [5] which also include has two headers.
> - in the directory of [5] other files have ASF headers and I’m wondering if 
> they should, looking at [6] it mention this link [7]  which is GPL licensed 
> [8]. GPL licensed code can’t be included in a source release,
> - several files like this one [9] which are MIT licenses
> 
> This file [10] (and I assume others in that directory) is also GPL licensed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 1. 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Incubator+Release+Checklist
> 2. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html
> 3. 
> ./tuweni-src-0.7.0/progpow/src/main/java/org/apache/tuweni/progpow/Keccakf800.java
> 4. https://github.com/bcgit/bc-java/blob/master/LICENSE.html
> 5.  
> ./tuweni-src-0.7.0/scuttlebutt-rpc/src/test/java/org/apache/tuweni/scuttlebutt/rpc/mux/PatchworkIntegrationTest.java
> 6../progpow/src/main/java/org/apache/tuweni/progpow/ProgPoW.java
> 7. https://github.com/ifdefelse/ProgPOW
> 8. https://github.com/ifdefelse/ProgPOW/blob/master/LICENSE
> 9. ./toml/src/test/resources/org/apache/tuweni/toml/hard_example.toml
> 10. ./eth-reference-tests/src/test/resources/tests/ansible/ec2.py
> 11. ./gradle/wrapper/gradle-wrapper.jar
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.7.0

2019-06-02 Thread Antoine Toulme
OK, the vote is now closed. The vote does not pass with 2 -1 votes from Dave 
Fisher and Justin Mclean.

Thank you all for your feedback. I will take you up on the offer of helping 
draw the release.

> On May 31, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> This class is not GPL. It was written by me. It is based on the ProgPoW 
>> algorithm specification. That specification is licensed CC0, scroll to the 
>> bottom of the README please: 
>> https://github.com/ifdefelse/ProgPOW/blob/master/README.md
> 
> Thanks for clarifying that, you might want to make that clear in the LICENSE 
> file in that repo.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.7.0

2019-05-31 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hi Justin,

This class is not GPL. It was written by me. It is based on the ProgPoW 
algorithm specification. That specification is licensed CC0, scroll to the 
bottom of the README please: 
https://github.com/ifdefelse/ProgPOW/blob/master/README.md

I’ll address the other points separately.

> On May 31, 2019, at 20:29, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> -1 for missing DISCLAIMER, GPL source code in the release and a compiled code 
> in the release.
> 
> I suggest you use a checklist like this one to help you. [1]. This page is 
> also very useful when making your license and notice filed [2].
> 
> If you need any help or want the IPMC to check think before you make a 
> release just ask.
> 
> I checked:
> - incubating in name
> - DISCLAIMER is missing
> - LICENSE is missing a number of things (see below)
> - NOTICE contains license information that should be in LICENSE
> - Source file have ASF headers
> - There’s an unexpected binary file in the release [11]
> - THE GPL licensed content in the release
> - I didn’t try to compile the code
> 
> LICENSE is missing license:
> - for this this file [3] which may be this [4]
> - this file [5] which also include has two headers.
> - in the directory of [5] other files have ASF headers and I’m wondering if 
> they should, looking at [6] it mention this link [7]  which is GPL licensed 
> [8]. GPL licensed code can’t be included in a source release,
> - several files like this one [9] which are MIT licenses
> 
> This file [10] (and I assume others in that directory) is also GPL licensed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 1. 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Incubator+Release+Checklist
> 2. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html
> 3. 
> ./tuweni-src-0.7.0/progpow/src/main/java/org/apache/tuweni/progpow/Keccakf800.java
> 4. https://github.com/bcgit/bc-java/blob/master/LICENSE.html
> 5.  
> ./tuweni-src-0.7.0/scuttlebutt-rpc/src/test/java/org/apache/tuweni/scuttlebutt/rpc/mux/PatchworkIntegrationTest.java
> 6../progpow/src/main/java/org/apache/tuweni/progpow/ProgPoW.java
> 7. https://github.com/ifdefelse/ProgPOW
> 8. https://github.com/ifdefelse/ProgPOW/blob/master/LICENSE
> 9. ./toml/src/test/resources/org/apache/tuweni/toml/hard_example.toml
> 10. ./eth-reference-tests/src/test/resources/tests/ansible/ec2.py
> 11. ./gradle/wrapper/gradle-wrapper.jar
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.7.0

2019-05-31 Thread Antoine Toulme
The disclaimer is missing from the source distribution, indeed. Sorry for that 
oversight.

> On May 31, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
> 
> I could not find the disclaimer from
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers anywhere in
> the release.
> 
> Kenn
> 
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 11:47 AM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
>> Hello IPMC,
>> 
>> The Apache Tuweni community has voted on and approved a proposal to
>> release Apache Tuweni (incubating) version 0.7.0.
>> 
>> The voting thread can be found here:
>> 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/65cc15293b9bc3598d0c3ca8ba4f7dbc402b6064372c14f0fae0d295@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
>> 
>> Two binding +1 vote from mentors Jim Jagielski and Larry McCay carry over
>> from the dev list thread.
>> 
>> We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
>> incubator release.
>> 
>> Tuweni is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
>> blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM languages.
>> 
>> It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and deserialization
>> codecs (e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions and primatives, and lots
>> of other helpful utilities.
>> The release candidates:
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/tuweni/0.7.0/
>> 
>> Git tag for the release:
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/tree/v0.7.0
>> 
>> Hash for the release tag: a8d55b7cd9196895a1b44be58cc33ef9d999c10b
>> 
>> The artifacts have been signed with Key: 5E469BCB, which can be found in
>> the keys file:
>> 
>> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/tuweni/KEYS
>> 
>> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until the necessary number
>> of votes are reached.
>> 
>> Please vote accordingly:
>> 
>> [ ] +1 approve
>> [ ] +0 no opinion
>> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> The Apache Tuweni (Incubating) Team
>> 
>> 
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[VOTE] Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.7.0

2019-05-28 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hello IPMC,

The Apache Tuweni community has voted on and approved a proposal to release 
Apache Tuweni (incubating) version 0.7.0.

The voting thread can be found here:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/65cc15293b9bc3598d0c3ca8ba4f7dbc402b6064372c14f0fae0d295@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E

Two binding +1 vote from mentors Jim Jagielski and Larry McCay carry over from 
the dev list thread.

We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
incubator release.

Tuweni is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of blockchain 
and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM languages.

It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and deserialization codecs 
(e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions and primatives, and lots of other 
helpful utilities.
The release candidates:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/tuweni/0.7.0/

Git tag for the release:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/tree/v0.7.0

Hash for the release tag: a8d55b7cd9196895a1b44be58cc33ef9d999c10b

The artifacts have been signed with Key: 5E469BCB, which can be found in
the keys file:

https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/tuweni/KEYS

The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until the necessary number
of votes are reached.

Please vote accordingly:

[ ] +1 approve
[ ] +0 no opinion
[ ] -1 disapprove with the reason

Thanks,
The Apache Tuweni (Incubating) Team



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Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.7.0

2019-05-28 Thread Antoine Toulme
Please disregard… I meant to open a vote for IPMC to vote on the release.

I’ll resend.

> On May 28, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> The vote to release Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.7.0 passed with four +1
> binding votes:
> 
> Jim Jagielski
> Jonny Rhea
> Antoine Toulme
> Larry McCay
> 
> Vote thread:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/65cc15293b9bc3598d0c3ca8ba4f7dbc402b6064372c14f0fae0d295@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
>  
> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/65cc15293b9bc3598d0c3ca8ba4f7dbc402b6064372c14f0fae0d295@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E>
> 
> Thank you to the above IPMC members for taking the time to review!
> 
> We will proceed with publishing the approved artifacts and sending out the
> appropriate announcements in the coming days.
> 
> Thanks,
> Antoine
> 
> Apache Tuweni (incubating) is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache
> Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator. Incubation is
> required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates
> that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have
> stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While
> incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or
> stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be
> fully endorsed by the ASF.
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[VOTE] Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.7.0

2019-05-28 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hi all,

The vote to release Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.7.0 passed with four +1
binding votes:

Jim Jagielski
Jonny Rhea
Antoine Toulme
Larry McCay

Vote thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/65cc15293b9bc3598d0c3ca8ba4f7dbc402b6064372c14f0fae0d295@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E
 
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/65cc15293b9bc3598d0c3ca8ba4f7dbc402b6064372c14f0fae0d295@%3Cdev.tuweni.apache.org%3E>

Thank you to the above IPMC members for taking the time to review!

We will proceed with publishing the approved artifacts and sending out the
appropriate announcements in the coming days.

Thanks,
Antoine

Apache Tuweni (incubating) is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache
Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator. Incubation is
required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates
that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have
stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While
incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or
stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be
fully endorsed by the ASF.



Re: Setting up Tuweni

2019-03-29 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thank you Dave. I have emailed all initial committers and mentors (includes 
you) a detailed version of those instructions to engage.

I have Bcced people to create an incentive to come chat on the dev list.

Cheers!

Antoine

> On Mar 29, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> The next steps are to email all the mentors and initial committers as follows:
> 
> (1) Subscribe to the dev@ and commits@ lists.
> (2) To the initial committers who are not yet apache committers they will 
> need to sign an ICLA and return that to the secretary@. This will start their 
> id process. https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter 
> <https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter>
> (3) Once an account is established then the Initial Committers will need be 
> added to the PPMC LDAP through Whimsy.
> (4) Subscribe to private@ list. The moderator will need to make sure that 
> they have their apache account already and are either a Mentor or an Initial 
> Committer.
> 
> Once people are subscribed to the dev@ list we can continue the discussion 
> there.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> Awesome, thanks!
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Antoine,
>>> 
>>> The repos is now created.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2019, at 10:45 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The ticket was closed with this message:
>>>> 
>>>> This is mainly self-serve, ask a mentor or  a pmc chair to use 
>>>> selfserve.apache.org <http://selfserve.apache.org/> to create a new repos.
>>>> 
>>>> Would you please help and perform this task if you can, and report back 
>>>> here?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Antoine
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Never mind, I read the dos again and opened an infra ticket to open the 
>>>>> git repository.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2019, at 10:13 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Following up:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The DNS and LDAP requests are fulfilled. Using the self-serve portal I 
>>>>>> have requested mailing lists dev, users, issues, private.
>>>>>> I have requested the JIRA project creation with the key TUWENI.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I however will need help with the git repository creation:
>>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/newrepo.html 
>>>>>> <https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/newrepo.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would a mentor or someone with the appropriate credentials fill that 
>>>>>> form please?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have added Tuweni to podlings,xml [0].
>>>>>>> I have also started tasks with infra to set up DNS and LDAP [1].
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please review and let me know if you see additional actions that may be 
>>>>>>> taken.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I will request mailing lists, git repository and websites after DNS is 
>>>>>>> granted.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [0]: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351 
>>>>>>> <http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351>
>>>>>>> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110 
>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Setting up Tuweni

2019-03-29 Thread Antoine Toulme
Awesome, thanks!

> On Mar 29, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi Antoine,
> 
> The repos is now created.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2019, at 10:45 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> The ticket was closed with this message:
>> 
>> This is mainly self-serve, ask a mentor or  a pmc chair to use 
>> selfserve.apache.org <http://selfserve.apache.org/> to create a new repos.
>> 
>> Would you please help and perform this task if you can, and report back here?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Never mind, I read the dos again and opened an infra ticket to open the git 
>>> repository.
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 28, 2019, at 10:13 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Following up:
>>>> 
>>>> The DNS and LDAP requests are fulfilled. Using the self-serve portal I 
>>>> have requested mailing lists dev, users, issues, private.
>>>> I have requested the JIRA project creation with the key TUWENI.
>>>> 
>>>> I however will need help with the git repository creation:
>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/newrepo.html 
>>>> <https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/newrepo.html>
>>>> 
>>>> Would a mentor or someone with the appropriate credentials fill that form 
>>>> please?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Antoine
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have added Tuweni to podlings,xml [0].
>>>>> I have also started tasks with infra to set up DNS and LDAP [1].
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please review and let me know if you see additional actions that may be 
>>>>> taken.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will request mailing lists, git repository and websites after DNS is 
>>>>> granted.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Antoine
>>>>> 
>>>>> [0]: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351 
>>>>> <http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351>
>>>>> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110 
>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110>
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Setting up Tuweni

2019-03-29 Thread Antoine Toulme
The ticket was closed with this message:

This is mainly self-serve, ask a mentor or  a pmc chair to use 
selfserve.apache.org <http://selfserve.apache.org/> to create a new repos.

Would you please help and perform this task if you can, and report back here?

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Mar 28, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Never mind, I read the dos again and opened an infra ticket to open the git 
> repository.
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2019, at 10:13 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> Following up:
>> 
>> The DNS and LDAP requests are fulfilled. Using the self-serve portal I have 
>> requested mailing lists dev, users, issues, private.
>> I have requested the JIRA project creation with the key TUWENI.
>> 
>> I however will need help with the git repository creation:
>> https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/newrepo.html 
>> <https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/newrepo.html>
>> 
>> Would a mentor or someone with the appropriate credentials fill that form 
>> please?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have added Tuweni to podlings,xml [0].
>>> I have also started tasks with infra to set up DNS and LDAP [1].
>>> 
>>> Please review and let me know if you see additional actions that may be 
>>> taken.
>>> 
>>> I will request mailing lists, git repository and websites after DNS is 
>>> granted.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
>>> [0]: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351 
>>> <http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351>
>>> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110 
>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110>
>>> 
>> 
> 



Re: Setting up Tuweni

2019-03-28 Thread Antoine Toulme
Never mind, I read the dos again and opened an infra ticket to open the git 
repository.

> On Mar 28, 2019, at 10:13 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Following up:
> 
> The DNS and LDAP requests are fulfilled. Using the self-serve portal I have 
> requested mailing lists dev, users, issues, private.
> I have requested the JIRA project creation with the key TUWENI.
> 
> I however will need help with the git repository creation:
> https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/newrepo.html 
> <https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/newrepo.html>
> 
> Would a mentor or someone with the appropriate credentials fill that form 
> please?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have added Tuweni to podlings,xml [0].
>> I have also started tasks with infra to set up DNS and LDAP [1].
>> 
>> Please review and let me know if you see additional actions that may be 
>> taken.
>> 
>> I will request mailing lists, git repository and websites after DNS is 
>> granted.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>> [0]: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351 
>> <http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351>
>> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110 
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110>
>> 
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Re: Setting up Tuweni

2019-03-28 Thread Antoine Toulme
Following up:

The DNS and LDAP requests are fulfilled. Using the self-serve portal I have 
requested mailing lists dev, users, issues, private.
I have requested the JIRA project creation with the key TUWENI.

I however will need help with the git repository creation:
https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/newrepo.html 
<https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/newrepo.html>

Would a mentor or someone with the appropriate credentials fill that form 
please?

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have added Tuweni to podlings,xml [0].
> I have also started tasks with infra to set up DNS and LDAP [1].
> 
> Please review and let me know if you see additional actions that may be taken.
> 
> I will request mailing lists, git repository and websites after DNS is 
> granted.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
> [0]: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351 
> <http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351>
> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110>
> 



Re: Setting up Tuweni

2019-03-27 Thread Antoine Toulme
Should I take further action to have infra's attention regarding [1]?

I believe there is a good process for that.

> On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have added Tuweni to podlings,xml [0].
> I have also started tasks with infra to set up DNS and LDAP [1].
> 
> Please review and let me know if you see additional actions that may be taken.
> 
> I will request mailing lists, git repository and websites after DNS is 
> granted.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
> [0]: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351 
> <http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351>
> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110>
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Re: Setting up Tuweni

2019-03-27 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks for the help!

> On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Actually the start date and monthly report dates needed to be changed.
> 
> I appreciate that the instructions are not very clear.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Antoine,
>> 
>> The podlings.xml change looks good to me.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have added Tuweni to podlings,xml [0].
>>> I have also started tasks with infra to set up DNS and LDAP [1].
>>> 
>>> Please review and let me know if you see additional actions that may be 
>>> taken.
>>> 
>>> I will request mailing lists, git repository and websites after DNS is 
>>> granted.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
>>> [0]: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351 
>>> <http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351>
>>> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110 
>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110>
>>> 
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Setting up Tuweni

2019-03-26 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hi all,

I have added Tuweni to podlings,xml [0].
I have also started tasks with infra to set up DNS and LDAP [1].

Please review and let me know if you see additional actions that may be taken.

I will request mailing lists, git repository and websites after DNS is granted.

Cheers,

Antoine

[0]: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision=1856351 

[1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18110 




Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-25 Thread Antoine Toulme
I kept messing that one up. Apologies.

> On Mar 25, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> Correction. VP, Brand approved the name.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> Legal has approved the name. We are a go with Apache Tuweni.
>> 
>> Thanks to all for helping figure this riddle out, and the many colors we 
>> painted this bike shed together :D
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167 
>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167> for this name.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> “Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets 
>>>> to the next round.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Antoine
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
>>>>>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
>>>>>> <https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would that work?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apache Avac ???
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>>>>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>>>>>>> trademarks
>>>>>>>>>> or claims.
>>>>>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- 
>>>>>>>>>> that no
>>>>>>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Deep sigh.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-25 Thread Antoine Toulme
Legal has approved the name. We are a go with Apache Tuweni.

Thanks to all for helping figure this riddle out, and the many colors we 
painted this bike shed together :D

Antoine

> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167> for this name.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> “Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets 
>> to the next round.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>>>> 
>>>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
>>>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
>>>> <https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>>>> 
>>>> Would that work?
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apache Avac ???
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer >>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>>>>> trademarks
>>>>>>>> or claims.
>>>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that 
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Deep sigh.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>>>>>> that is
>>

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-22 Thread Antoine Toulme
I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167 
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167> for this name.


> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> “Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets to 
> the next round.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>>> 
>>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
>>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
>>> <https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>>> 
>>> Would that work?
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Apache Avac ???
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer >>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>>>> One
>>>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>>>> trademarks
>>>>>>> or claims.
>>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>>>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Deep sigh.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-22 Thread Antoine Toulme
“Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets to 
the next round.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
> 
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>> 
>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
>> <https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>> 
>> Would that work?
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apache Avac ???
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer >>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>>> One
>>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>>> trademarks
>>>>>> or claims.
>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Deep sigh.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>>>>>> around
>>>>>>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>&

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-21 Thread Antoine Toulme
Any strong objections to Tuweni?


> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
> 
> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
> <https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
> 
> Would that work?
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
>> 
>> Apache Avac ???
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>> 
>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>> 
>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>> 
>>>> Kenn
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer >>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>> One
>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>> trademarks
>>>>> or claims.
>>>>> --Anu
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Deep sigh.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  OK.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>>>>> around
>>>>>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>>> that is
>>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>>>>> cava of
>>>>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>>> name you co

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-21 Thread Antoine Toulme
There is already a bistro project: https://facebook.github.io/bistro/

> On Mar 21, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> This deeply appeals to my French roots.
> 
> OK I’ll check we’re not infringing anything.
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> How about Apache Bistro:
>> 
>> o sounds like crypto
>> o Blockchain dISTRO
>> o distributed kinda means decentralized as well.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-21 Thread Antoine Toulme
This deeply appeals to my French roots.

OK I’ll check we’re not infringing anything.

> On Mar 21, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> How about Apache Bistro:
> 
>  o sounds like crypto
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-21 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks for your suggestion. Unfortunately, InBlock LLC is a blockchain company.

> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:54 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez 
>  wrote:
> 
> another suggestion from the back of the peanut gallery: Apache InBlock, so
> phonetically there's block and chain (and Apache :o))
> 
> best regards,
> juan pablo
> 
> 
> El jue., 21 mar. 2019 8:04, Antoine Toulme  escribió:
> 
>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>> 
>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from
>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <
>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>> 
>> Would that work?
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apache Avac ???
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <
>> aengin...@hortonworks.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>>> One
>>>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>>> trademarks
>>>>>> or claims.
>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that
>> no
>>>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Deep sigh.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>>>>>> around
>>>>>>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme >> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>&g

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-21 Thread Antoine Toulme
I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.

On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
<https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).

Would that work?

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
> 
> Apache Avac ???
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
>> There exists an outis open source project.
>> 
>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>> 
>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>> 
>>> Kenn
>>> 
>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer >> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>> One
>>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>> trademarks
>>>> or claims.
>>>> --Anu
>>>> 
>>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>>>> one else has thought off.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   Deep sigh.
>>>> 
>>>>   OK.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>>>> around
>>>>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>>> that is
>>>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>>>> cava of
>>>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
>>>> seemed
>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> What is s

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-20 Thread Antoine Toulme
There exists an outis open source project.

Maybe we can riff on this name though.

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
> 
> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
> 
> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
> 
> Kenn
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer 
> wrote:
> 
>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No One
>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any trademarks
>> or claims.
>> --Anu
>> 
>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>> one else has thought off.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>> 
>>Deep sigh.
>> 
>>OK.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>> around
>>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>>> 
>>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>> that is
>>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>> with the
>>>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>> cava of
>>>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
>> seemed
>>>> like a
>>>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>> the
>>>> cusp of
>>>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>> anto...@toulme.name>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>> the
>>>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>> Wars
>>>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>>>> likely to
>>>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>> different
>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave F

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-20 Thread Antoine Toulme
Deep sigh.

OK.

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> 
> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code around
> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>> 
>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>> 
>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is
>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>>> 
>>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apache PawPaw
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>>>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jackfruit
>>>>>> Jambolan
>>>>>> Jocote
>>>>>> Kumquat
>>>>>> KangKong
>>>>>> Kabosu
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>>>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is seemed
>> like a
>>>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the
>> cusp of
>>>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>>>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>>>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>> likely to
>>>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different
>> name.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is
>> either
>>>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>> Establish
>>>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>> expected
>>>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple au

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-20 Thread Antoine Toulme
Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.

Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.

I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything... 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is 
>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>> 
>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apache PawPaw
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>>> 
>>>> Jackfruit
>>>> Jambolan
>>>> Jocote
>>>> Kumquat
>>>> KangKong
>>>> Kabosu
>>>> 
>>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is seemed like a
>>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>>> 
>>>> Just brainstorming.
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
>>>>> graduation. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>>>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>>>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
>>>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
>>>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
>>>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
>>>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
>>>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-19 Thread Antoine Toulme
I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is rather 
unambiguous across languages.

Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?


> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Apache PawPaw
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>> 
>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>> fruit/veggie theme?
>> 
>> Jackfruit
>> Jambolan
>> Jocote
>> Kumquat
>> KangKong
>> Kabosu
>> 
>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is seemed like a
>> name you could use after Cava.
>> 
>> Just brainstorming.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
>>> graduation. :)
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
>>>> 
>>>> We need to pick another name.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher 
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>>>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme 
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The ticket is now open:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf 
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-18 Thread Antoine Toulme
All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the community must 
>refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars references. The view of the 
>community is that the community is likely to find that difficult. It was 
>therefore agreed to look for a different name.

We need to pick another name.

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed 
>>> up or autocorrected.
>>> 
>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 
>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish 
>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>> 
>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> 
> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected to 
> see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> 
> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to Obiwan … 
> more Jedi mind tricks.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>>> 
>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The ticket is now open: 
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Antoine
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan 
>>>>>>> Kenobi"
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
>>>>>>>>>> waters over there.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
>>>>>>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-04 Thread Antoine Toulme



> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed up 
> or autocorrected.
> 
> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish 
> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> 
> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> 
> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The ticket is now open: 
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>>>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> What language should I use?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>>>> .
>>>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan 
>>>>> Kenobi"
>>>>> .
>>>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
>>>>>>>> waters over there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-03 Thread Antoine Toulme
The ticket is now open: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Perfect, thank you.
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
>> 
>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> What language should I use?
>> 
>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>> .
>>   "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>> .
>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
>>>>> waters over there.
>>>> 
>>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-01 Thread Antoine Toulme
Perfect, thank you.

> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> 
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> What language should I use?
> 
> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
> .
>"In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
> .
> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Daniel
> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
>>>> waters over there.
>>> 
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>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-01 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hello Daniel,

I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list. Are you inferring 
something? What language should I use?

> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> 
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters 
>> over there.
> 
> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi-Wan_Kenobi>.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Daniel
> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-01 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks Jim.

Hat tip to Jonny who joined the list just to make this contribution.
Jonny is a committer on the project and will participate a new initial 
committer to the project at Apache.
It’s his first involvement with Apache, please welcome him to the fray!

How about this:
I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters 
over there.
Meanwhile, if you have a strong objection, please let it be known here.

Cheers,

Antoine


> On Mar 1, 2019, at 4:47 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> either works for me.
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll change my vote.
>> 
>> +1 to Obiwarn.
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:04 PM, jonathan.r...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> -1 to Bava
>>> How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool. 
>>> 
>>> On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles  wrote: 
>>>> +1 to Bava
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://github.com/search?o=desc=bava
>>>>> No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Google code:
>>>>> https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
>>>>> No hits
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sourceforge:
>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
>>>>> No hits
>>>>> 
>>>>> Openhub:
>>>>> https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=bava
>>>>> 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Trademarks:
>>>>> https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
>>>>> No hits in computer science domain
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
>>>>> No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> USPTO:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=bava_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
>>>>> 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Web presence:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=bava=bava
>>>>> 12,100,000 results
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
>>>>> the horror “slasher” film.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
>>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
>>>>> 
>>>>> StackOverflow:
>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
>>>>> 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
>>>>> 
>>>>> LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
>>>>> specialize in apparel and fashion.
>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
>>>>> 
>>>>> No matches in Oxford dictionary:
>>>>> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=bava
>>>>> 
>>>>> No matches on Spotify.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Antoine
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
>>>>> find.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-28 Thread Antoine Toulme
Usage check:

https://github.com/search?o=desc=obiwarn
No repo using the name or active. One user named obiwarn.

Google code:
https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=obiwarn
No hits

Sourceforge:
https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=obiwarn
No hits

Openhub:
https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=obiwarn
No hits

Trademarks:
https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=obiwarn
No hits

https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=obiwarn
No hits

USPTO:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4801%3Azgp26q.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=obiwarn_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
No records.

Web presence:

https://www.google.com/search?q=obiwarn=obiwarn
27,000 results

No matches except for that github user.

StackOverflow:
https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=obiwarn
0 results

LinkedIn: No hits

No matches in Oxford dictionary:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=obiwarn

No matches on Spotify.

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I’ll change my vote.
> 
> +1 to Obiwarn.
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:04 PM, jonathan.r...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> -1 to Bava
>> How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool. 
>> 
>> On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles  wrote: 
>>> +1 to Bava
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/search?o=desc=bava
>>>> No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
>>>> 
>>>> Google code:
>>>> https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
>>>> No hits
>>>> 
>>>> Sourceforge:
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
>>>> No hits
>>>> 
>>>> Openhub:
>>>> https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=bava
>>>> 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
>>>> 
>>>> Trademarks:
>>>> https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
>>>> No hits in computer science domain
>>>> 
>>>> https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
>>>> No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
>>>> 
>>>> USPTO:
>>>> 
>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=bava_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
>>>> 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
>>>> 
>>>> Web presence:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=bava=bava
>>>> 12,100,000 results
>>>> 
>>>> Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
>>>> the horror “slasher” film.
>>>> 
>>>> Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
>>>> 
>>>> Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
>>>> 
>>>> StackOverflow:
>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
>>>> 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
>>>> 
>>>> LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
>>>> specialize in apparel and fashion.
>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
>>>> 
>>>> No matches in Oxford dictionary:
>>>> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=bava
>>>> 
>>>> No matches on Spotify.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Antoine
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
>>>> find.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-28 Thread Antoine Toulme
I’ll change my vote.

+1 to Obiwarn.

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:04 PM, jonathan.r...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> -1 to Bava
> How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool. 
> 
> On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles  wrote: 
>> +1 to Bava
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>>> +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/search?o=desc=bava
>>> No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
>>> 
>>> Google code:
>>> https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
>>> No hits
>>> 
>>> Sourceforge:
>>> https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
>>> No hits
>>> 
>>> Openhub:
>>> https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=bava
>>> 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
>>> 
>>> Trademarks:
>>> https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
>>> No hits in computer science domain
>>> 
>>> https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
>>> No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
>>> 
>>> USPTO:
>>> 
>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=bava_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
>>> 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
>>> 
>>> Web presence:
>>> 
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=bava=bava
>>> 12,100,000 results
>>> 
>>> Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
>>> the horror “slasher” film.
>>> 
>>> Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
>>> 
>>> Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
>>> 
>>> StackOverflow:
>>> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
>>> 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
>>> 
>>> LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
>>> specialize in apparel and fashion.
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
>>> 
>>> No matches in Oxford dictionary:
>>> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=bava
>>> 
>>> No matches on Spotify.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
>>> find.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-28 Thread Antoine Toulme
+1 for Bava. Checking usage now.

https://github.com/search?o=desc=bava
No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.

Google code:
https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
No hits

Sourceforge:
https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
No hits

Openhub:
https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=bava
2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.

Trademarks:
https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
No hits in computer science domain

https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.

USPTO:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=bava_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.

Web presence:

https://www.google.com/search?q=bava=bava
12,100,000 results

Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created the 
horror “slasher” film.

Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava

Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French. 
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava

StackOverflow:
https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.

LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They specialize in 
apparel and fashion.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/

No matches in Oxford dictionary:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=bava

No matches on Spotify.

Cheers,

Antoine


> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can find.



Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-28 Thread Antoine Toulme
FWIW I am very happy I received strong signal that this was not going to work, 
in a timely manner.

No worries and let’s move on.

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>> 
>> On 2/28/2019 3:24 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
 
 It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow
 be offensive or insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware
 of situations where the LGBT+ community "has expressed concerns"
 about usage *of the name* Rainbow.
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> Anyone could hypothetically be offended by anything, I could list a
>>> large number of theoretical offenses in project names. Let's please
>>> stick to *actual* feedback and not preemptively censor ourselves. If
>>> such feedback exists, fair enough, but I am also not aware of any such. 
>> 
>> I have asked off-list for someone I trust in the LGBTQ community who is
>> also an ASF member to weigh in on this but I am aware that this is a
>> concern.  I just can't articulate how much of a concern it is.  I will
>> work to get that better clarified for the podling.
> 
> I am aware of various members of the LGBT+ community being offended by 
> companies
> trying to *co-opt* the rainbow *symbol* specifically and explicitly in 
> relation to a cheap
> and easy way to show "support" or a way to be "hip" or "cool"... heck, I'm 
> offended by it as well.
> 
> But that's not what we're talking about.
> 
> And yeah, "just figure out a new name if there is any possible doubt" is
> a safe strategy, but it does edge us closer to a slippery slope.
> 
> --
> Signed Jim (who recalls the debate long ago about the Apache "Jakarta" name)
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-28 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks Kevin, your help and guidance are appreciated.

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> A rose by any other name would still be as sweet so I am +1 on the
> proposal.  Just trying to help with the naming issue and to save the
> project and infra grief of it needs to change.
> 
> But I am here to support and feel bad to throw any gunk in your sprockets.
> 
> Best, KAM
> 
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 13:59 Antoine Toulme  
>> For context Jim is the champion of the Cava proposal.
>> 
>> The point of rough consensus is to bring about strong objections and move
>> past non-votes.
>> I believe we are at that point, and I will move forward to consider this
>> thread closed with the name Rainbow.
>> I will open a pooling namecheck and move to the next step there.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I have no doubt that the proposal is going to pass, so we might as
>> well progress on w/ that assumption. ;)
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Kevin A. McGrail 
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to
>> lead
>>>> me to believe we are at that stage yet.  I think we want to have
>>>> discussions about a provisional name first.  Specifically, "A podling
>>>> needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> KAM
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>>> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail 
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not an objection per se but two comments:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
>>>>>> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses.  For example,
>>>>>> 
>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I
>> would
>>>>>> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up
>> words.
>>>>>> Less chance of conflictions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> KAM
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey folks, just checking in.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still
>> following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push
>> proposals to hear objections.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS
>> projects with those names.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the
>> whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail 
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is
>> clearly a
>>>>>>>>>> really different field of use.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in
>> presuming it
>>>>>>>>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source
>> project,
>>>>>>>>>> let's not collide.
>

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-28 Thread Antoine Toulme
For context Jim is the champion of the Cava proposal.

The point of rough consensus is to bring about strong objections and move past 
non-votes.
I believe we are at that point, and I will move forward to consider this thread 
closed with the name Rainbow.
I will open a pooling namecheck and move to the next step there.

Thanks,

Antoine

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Well, I have no doubt that the proposal is going to pass, so we might as well 
> progress on w/ that assumption. ;)
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>> 
>> Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to lead
>> me to believe we are at that stage yet.  I think we want to have
>> discussions about a provisional name first.  Specifically, "A podling
>> needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
>> 
>> Regards,
>> KAM
>> 
>> On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Not an objection per se but two comments:
>>>> 
>>>> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
>>>> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses.  For example,
>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
>>>> 
>>>> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I would
>>>> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
>>>> 
>>>> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up words. 
>>>> Less chance of conflictions.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> KAM
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>>> Hey folks, just checking in.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we 
>>>>> have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to 
>>>>> hear objections.
>>>>> 
>>>>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS 
>>>>>> projects with those names.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical 
>>>>>> requirement of Apache project names.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>>>>>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is 
>>>>>>>> clearly a
>>>>>>>> really different field of use.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>>>>>>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source 
>>>>>>>> project,
>>>>>>>> let's not collide.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but 
>>>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>> like someone should check my work...
>>>>>>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming language I
>>>>>>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>>>>>>> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
>>>>>>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc. 
>>>>>>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
>>>

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-28 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hey folks, just checking in.

I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we have 
narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.

We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.

When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to hear 
objections.

At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects 
> with those names.
> 
> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical 
> requirement of Apache project names.
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>> 
>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
>>> really different field of use.
>>> 
>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>>> let's not collide.
>>> 
>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
>>> like someone should check my work...
>> 
>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming language I
>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>>  
>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>> 
>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc. 
>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
>> company called winch gate. 
>> 
>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> KAM
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-26 Thread Antoine Toulme
I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects 
with those names.

I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical 
requirement of Apache project names.

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
>> really different field of use.
>> 
>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>> let's not collide.
>> 
>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
>> like someone should check my work...
> 
> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming language I
> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>  
> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
> Pi's overtaking the field.
> 
> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc. 
> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
> company called winch gate. 
> 
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
> 
> Regards,
> 
> KAM
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-26 Thread Antoine Toulme
I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain of the 
project.
The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about name 
uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.

Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:

Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?

[0]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good


> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> Antoine,
> 
> I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much traffic
> here, I missed that thread.  Jal (just another language) is a
> programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> 
> I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
> open source project name.
> 
> Regards,
> KAM
> 
> On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>> Thanks all.
>> 
>> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for other 
>> names.
>> Thank you for your participation!
>> 
>> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.
>> 
>> We are now set to open the podling.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 for Jal
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>> 
>>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
>>>> 
>>>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name 
>>>> for the project [1].
>>>> 
>>>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>>>> 
>>>> Here are the names:
>>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the 
>>>> crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) 
>>>> , in the chain theme)
>>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, 
>>>> track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain 
>>>> theme as well)
>>>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from 
>>>> [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered 
>>>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the 
>>>> other dew drops. 
>>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew 
>>>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist 
>>>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>>>> 
>>>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel 
>>>> free to justify your choice.
>>>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a 
>>>> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a 
>>>> name.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday 
>>>> afternoon PST time.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Antoine
>>>> 
>>>> [0]: 
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>> [1]: 
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-26 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks all.

We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for other names.
Thank you for your participation!

I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.

We are now set to open the podling.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
> 
> +1 for Jal
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
>> 
>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name 
>> for the project [1].
>> 
>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>> 
>> Here are the names:
>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the 
>> crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) , 
>> in the chain theme)
>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, 
>> track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain 
>> theme as well)
>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from [3]: 
>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with 
>> dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew 
>> drops. 
>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops 
>> in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of 
>> the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>> 
>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel free 
>> to justify your choice.
>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a strong 
>> contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a name.
>> 
>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday 
>> afternoon PST time.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>> [0]: 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>> [1]: 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Cava into the Apache Incubator

2019-02-25 Thread Antoine Toulme
The vote for accepting "Cava" into the Apache Incubator passes* with 8
binding +1 votes, 7 non-binding +1 votes and no other votes.

Thanks for voting!

8 binding +1 votes:
Kevin A. McGrail
Dave Fisher
Byung-Gon Chun
Jim Jagielski
Furman Kamaci
.
Michael Wall
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Gary Wang

7 non-binding +1 votes:
Larry McCay
John D. Ament
Pierre Smits
Huxing Zhang
Vinayakumar B.
.
Felix Cheung
Clebert Suconic

I have opened a separate thread to help pick a name for the project [0]. I will 
close the vote on the project name tomorrow, and move to the next steps from 
there.

Thank you everyone,
Antoine

[0]: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7087791b1540363aef260a5f9c864a218c9f72bdd8cdf3bd90faad46@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

> On Feb 20, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> we've discussed the proposal for the Cava project in [1] and [2]. The
> proposal itself can be found on the wiki[3].
> 
> We discussed how to go about finding a suitable name for the project in [2].
> I will kick off a vote to pick a name based on the proposals made there.
> 
> According to the Incubator rules[4] I'd like to call a vote to accept the
> new "Cava" project as a podling in the Apache Incubator.
> 
> A vote for accepting a new Apache Incubator podling is a majority vote.
> Everyone is welcome to vote, only Incubator PMC member votes are binding.
> It would be helpful (but not required) if you could add a comment stating
> whether your vote is binding or non-binding.
> 
> This vote will run for at least 72 hours (but I expect to keep it open for
> longer). Please VOTE as follows:
> 
> [ ] +1 Accept Cava into the Apache Incubator
> [ ] +0 Abstain
> [ ] -1 Do not accept Cava into the Apache Incubator because ...
> 
> Thank you for everyone who decided to join in in the past discussions!
> Antoine
> 
> [1]: 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5a7f6a218b11a1cac61fbd53f4c995fd7716f8ad3751cf9f171ebd57@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
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> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
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[Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-02-22 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hi all,

I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].

At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name for 
the project [1].

Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.

Here are the names:
- Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the crypto 
community unicorn punk theme [2].
- Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) , in 
the chain theme)
- Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, track 
or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain theme as 
well)
- “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from [3]: 
"Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with dew 
drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew drops. 
And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops in 
that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of the 
universe in an image." –Alan Watts)

In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel free to 
justify your choice.
Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a strong 
contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a name.

I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday afternoon 
PST time.

Cheers,

Antoine

[0]: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
[1]: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
[2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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[VOTE] Accept Cava into the Apache Incubator

2019-02-20 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hi everyone,

we've discussed the proposal for the Cava project in [1] and [2]. The
proposal itself can be found on the wiki[3].

We discussed how to go about finding a suitable name for the project in [2].
I will kick off a vote to pick a name based on the proposals made there.

According to the Incubator rules[4] I'd like to call a vote to accept the
new "Cava" project as a podling in the Apache Incubator.

A vote for accepting a new Apache Incubator podling is a majority vote.
Everyone is welcome to vote, only Incubator PMC member votes are binding.
It would be helpful (but not required) if you could add a comment stating
whether your vote is binding or non-binding.

This vote will run for at least 72 hours (but I expect to keep it open for
longer). Please VOTE as follows:

[ ] +1 Accept Cava into the Apache Incubator
[ ] +0 Abstain
[ ] -1 Do not accept Cava into the Apache Incubator because ...

Thank you for everyone who decided to join in in the past discussions!
Antoine

[1]: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5a7f6a218b11a1cac61fbd53f4c995fd7716f8ad3751cf9f171ebd57@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
[2]: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
[3]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal?action=recall=14
[4]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#the_vote
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

2019-02-20 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hello all,

Thank you for your feedback. We will move to change the name.

At this point, it looks like the project itself is a good fit for the incubator.
I will open a vote for acceptance into the incubator.
In parallel or quickly after, I will also hold a vote to help select a name 
amongst the propositions made so far.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Feb 20, 2019, at 5:44 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Ah yes... agreed.
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> Jim,
>> 
>> The potential conflict is a small San Francisco blockchain software comp[any 
>> called kava.io <http://kava.io/>.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 keeping as-is.
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> First, a heartfelt thank you to all for participating in this discussion.
>>>> 
>>>> I am tempted to keep Cava _for now_ given this late feedback, and proceed 
>>>> to proposing the project.
>>>> To be more precise, I recommend we get the project into the incubator with 
>>>> this name. We can change the name of the project 3 to 6 months in.
>>>> 
>>>> We have so far received significant interest from the Apache community and 
>>>> others, and it looks like we can go from there.
>>>> 
>>>> John, good point on this website, kava.io. I note the company is named 
>>>> Kava Labs Inc. and their GitHub is Kava-Labs.
>>>> https://github.com/Kava-Labs
>>>> It also looks like their code is in the crypto domain, but more on the 
>>>> interchange/wallet side and written in Go and TypeScript.
>>>> I’ll add them to the list when performing the suitable name search item on 
>>>> Jira.
>>>> 
>>>> I am going to give everyone 48 hours to voice strong opinions against this 
>>>> approach.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Antoine
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to Apache, 
>>>>> I
>>>>> would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already a
>>>>> presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
>>>>> https://kava.io/
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
>>>>>> forget the original meaning.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the
>>>>>> name :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Blockava
>>>>>> - Blockva
>>>>>> - Chainava
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Serge...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Consensus Java :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands
>>>>>> for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can
>>>>>> always go
>>>>>>>>> with Apache Cava name.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - Henry
>>>

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

2019-02-18 Thread Antoine Toulme
First, a heartfelt thank you to all for participating in this discussion.

I am tempted to keep Cava _for now_ given this late feedback, and proceed to 
proposing the project.
To be more precise, I recommend we get the project into the incubator with this 
name. We can change the name of the project 3 to 6 months in.

We have so far received significant interest from the Apache community and 
others, and it looks like we can go from there.

John, good point on this website, kava.io. I note the company is named Kava 
Labs Inc. and their GitHub is Kava-Labs.
https://github.com/Kava-Labs
It also looks like their code is in the crypto domain, but more on the 
interchange/wallet side and written in Go and TypeScript.
I’ll add them to the list when performing the suitable name search item on Jira.

I am going to give everyone 48 hours to voice strong opinions against this 
approach.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
> 
> If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to Apache, I
> would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already a
> presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava
> 
> However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
> https://kava.io/
> 
> John
> 
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber  wrote:
> 
>> I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
>> forget the original meaning.
>> 
>> So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
>> 
>> Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the
>> name :)
>> 
>> - Blockava
>> - Blockva
>> - Chainava
>> 
>> Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
>> 
>> Regards,
>>  Serge...
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Consensus Java :)
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands
>> for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
>>>> 
>>>> It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra 
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can
>> always go
>>>>> with Apache Cava name.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Henry
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you Anu.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s
>> agreeable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer <
>> aengin...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
>>>>>> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From the link:
>>>>>>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
>> covered
>>>>>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
>> the other
>>>>>> dew drops.
>>>>>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
>> dew
>>>>>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
>>>>>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or
>> graph (
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
>>>>>> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I humbly would like to ask the community 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

2019-02-16 Thread Antoine Toulme
I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands for 
“ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.

It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.

> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra  wrote:
> 
> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
> 
> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can always go
> with Apache Cava name.
> 
> - Henry
> 
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme  
>> Thank you Anu.
>> 
>> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s agreeable.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
>> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
>>> 
>>> From the link:
>>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered
>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other
>> dew drops.
>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
>>> 
>>> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or graph (
>>> 
>>> --Anu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Hello all,
>>> 
>>>   As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
>> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
>>> 
>>>   I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals
>> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines [1].
>>> 
>>>   In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of names:
>>> 
>>>   - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>>>   - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>>>   - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
>> chain theme as well)
>>> 
>>>   I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used
>> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed the guidelines to
>> search across different open source communities.
>>> 
>>>   Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a
>> rough consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let us
>> know as well.
>>> 
>>>   Cheers,
>>> 
>>>   Antoine
>>> 
>>>   [0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
>>>   [1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html <
>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html>
>>>   [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
>>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

2019-02-15 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thank you Anu.

I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s agreeable.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer  wrote:
> 
> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
> 
> From the link:
> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with 
> dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew 
> drops. 
> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops 
> in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of 
> the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
> 
> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or graph (
> 
> --Anu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
> 
>Hello all,
> 
>As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal 
> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
> 
>I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals on a 
> suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines [1].
> 
>In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of names:
> 
>- Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the 
> crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>- Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) 
> , in the chain theme)
>- Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, 
> track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain 
> theme as well)
> 
>I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used 
> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed the guidelines to 
> search across different open source communities.
> 
>Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a rough 
> consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let us know as 
> well.
> 
>Cheers,
> 
>Antoine
> 
>[0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
>[1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html 
> <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html>
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[Cava] Suitable name search

2019-02-13 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hello all,

As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal discussed 
last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].

I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals on a 
suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines [1].

In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of names:

- Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the crypto 
community unicorn punk theme [2].
- Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) , in 
the chain theme)
- Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, track 
or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain theme as 
well)

I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used heavily by 
an open source project in crypto. I followed the guidelines to search across 
different open source communities.

Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a rough 
consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let us know as well.

Cheers,

Antoine

[0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
[1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html 

[2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk

Re: Suitable project name search (was: [PROPOSAL] New blockchain project: Cava)

2019-02-11 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks Pierre. Sorry, I was trying to spare myself looking ignorant, and I 
ended up breaking public comms.

Thanks for the advice, I’ll proceed.

> On Feb 11, 2019, at 12:28 AM, Pierre Smits  wrote:
> 
> Hi Antoine,
> 
> I suggest to include the general@incubator.a.o mailing list as it will allow 
> other Apache contributors to chime in (maybe even faster than I am).
> 
> Regarding the search for the optimal name, the best way to go about (IMO) is 
> to make a short list - in accordance with [1] - and discuss those on list 
> with the community. When a satisfactory result has been achieved use that in 
> the proposal and [2]
> 
> 
> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html 
> <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html>[2] 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH>
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Pierre Smits
> 
> Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org/>, Vice President
> Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org/>, PMC Member
> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org/>, committer
> Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org/>, contributor (without privileges) 
> since 2008
> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org/>, committer
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 6:34 PM Antoine Toulme  <mailto:anto...@toulme.name>> wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
> 
> Looking over Jira, all the tickets are about proving a name that has already 
> been selected is not currently in use.
> 
> I was looking for a way to conduct a name search with the community, with 
> proposals.
> Is jira the right avenue for this?
> 
> If not, I’m happy to swing it by selecting a name of my own choosing.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:46 AM, Pierre Smits > <mailto:pierresm...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Antoine,
>> 
>> First of all: thank you for the LinkedIn accept.
>> 
>> More information about the PNS (Podling Name Search) can be found via [1]. 
>> 
>> After having yourself familiarised with that, I suggest to register a JIRA 
>> ticket with project 'PODLING NAME SEARCH' for the new project name, see [2]. 
>> I
>>  also suggest to browse through a few of the open tickets to get a gist of 
>> what steps to take.
>> 
>> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html 
>> <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html>
>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH 
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH>
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Pierre Smits
>> 
>> Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org/>, Vice President
>> Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org/>, PMC Member
>> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org/>, committer
>> Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org/>, contributor (without privileges) 
>> since 2008
>> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org/>, committer
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 3:03 AM Antoine Toulme > <mailto:anto...@toulme.name>> wrote:
>> [going off-list]
>> 
>> How should we conduct the name search?
>> 
>> I have a few names I can submit. I can push for one if that makes sense.
>> 
>> I am looking for previous discussions on the list, but nothing close to an 
>> open name search seems to have happened there.
>> 
>> Please help?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
> 



Re: [PROPOSAL] New blockchain project: Cava

2019-02-06 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks Furkan, I’ll list you as a mentor too.

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:18 AM, Furkan KAMACI  wrote:
> 
> Hi Antonie,
> 
> Thanks for the proposal! Feel free to ask any questions about it. By the
> way, right along with being an initial committer, I would like to help as a
> mentor too.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Furkan KAMACI
> 
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 9:10 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
>> All, thank you for your expressions of interest.
>> 
>> I have listed all names reported here and a few more colleagues and
>> contributors in the page:
>> 
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal <
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal>
>> 
>> In particular, thank you for the folks stepping forward to volunteer to
>> mentor this project. I have listed you all on the page for now.
>> 
>> There is still a couple of TBD points on the proposal. I will address them
>> in a new thread.
>> I will also leave this proposal open until Monday next week, so we can
>> guarantee maximum public participation. I will engage with the incubator
>> early next week on next steps.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 5:02 AM, Pierre Smits  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Antoine,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for bringing this proposal to the Apache Incubator. So I gladly
>>> give my +1.
>>> 
>>> Having a background in accounting and being one of the Apache OFBiz
>>> contributors I am very interested in blockchain technology, while being
>>> very interested in applying its functionalities in an ERP setting like
>>> Apache OFBiz is.
>>> 
>>> While the Apache Trafodion project was in incubation I was very much
>>> involved in helping (mentoring) that project towards graduation, which it
>>> has successively done. I would like to help out as one of the mentors,
>> and
>>> as a contributor/committer (of the other kind).
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Pierre Smits
>>> 
>>> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President & PMC
>>> Chair*
>>> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
>>> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
>>> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
>> privileges)
>>> since 2008*
>>> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 11:42 PM Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> We’d like to start a conversation around a new proposal for a set of
>>>> Java-based blockchain project.
>>>> 
>>>> I have written a proposal available here, and reproduced below:
>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal <
>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal>
>>>> 
>>>> At this time, we have a champion, Jim Jagielski (thanks Jim), and would
>>>> like to recruit additional developers and mentors.
>>>> 
>>>> We have deliberately left room on the project charter to engage openly
>>>> with the community. That said, we would start the project with code
>> coming
>>>> from ConsenSys, and we will recruit developers from there and elsewhere
>>>> actively.
>>>> 
>>>> The goal of this thread is engage with the community and gather interest
>>>> for participation in the project. Please let us know what you think!
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Antoine Toulme
>>>> 
>>>> == Abstract ==
>>>> Cava is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
>>>> blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM
>> languages.
>>>> 
>>>> Please note: Cava is a contraction of "ConsenSys Java". The community
>>>> should consider an alternate name.
>>>> 
>>>> = Proposal =
>>>> 
>>>> Cava is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
>>>> blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM
>> languages.
>>>> It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and deserialization
>>>> codecs (e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions and primatives, and
>> lots
>>>> of other helpful utilities.
>>>> Cava is developed for JDK 1.8 or hig

Re: [PROPOSAL] New blockchain project: Cava

2019-02-06 Thread Antoine Toulme



> On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Greg Stein  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 10:48 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Greg Stein  wrote:
>>> 
 On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 6:06 PM Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
 
 Hey just because there is a restaurant chain called Cava does not mean
 that a software project called Cava is not suitable.
 
 BTW Cava is Spanish Sparkling Wine - it is like Champagne but made with
 Spanish varietals. [1]
 
>>> 
>>> I read it as: it seems they are more (rightly) concerned that the
>>> derivation of the name includes a corporate name. Not that it interferes
>>> with other existing names.
>> 
>> It is not unusual for an Apache project name to be a brand and domain in
>> another field of use.
>> 
>> Try these:
>> Tomcat.com -> baited rodent traps
>> Spark.com -> dating site
>> Camel.com -> tobacco
>> Geronimo.com -> help for non-profits
>> Sling.com -> live tv streaming
>> Jackrabbit.com -> athletic apparel
>> 
> 
> I understand that, and how trademarks are area-specific.
> 
> The proposal specifically states: *Cava is a contraction of "ConsenSys
> Java"*
> 
> Thus, I read the community requesting a to-do for a new name that is not
> based on a company name.
> 
> -g

Yes, I think it will help adoption if the community owns the name.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] New blockchain project: Cava

2019-02-06 Thread Antoine Toulme
All, thank you for your expressions of interest.

I have listed all names reported here and a few more colleagues and 
contributors in the page:

https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal 
<https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal>

In particular, thank you for the folks stepping forward to volunteer to mentor 
this project. I have listed you all on the page for now.

There is still a couple of TBD points on the proposal. I will address them in a 
new thread.
I will also leave this proposal open until Monday next week, so we can 
guarantee maximum public participation. I will engage with the incubator early 
next week on next steps.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 5:02 AM, Pierre Smits  wrote:
> 
> Hi Antoine,
> 
> Thank you for bringing this proposal to the Apache Incubator. So I gladly
> give my +1.
> 
> Having a background in accounting and being one of the Apache OFBiz
> contributors I am very interested in blockchain technology, while being
> very interested in applying its functionalities in an ERP setting like
> Apache OFBiz is.
> 
> While the Apache Trafodion project was in incubation I was very much
> involved in helping (mentoring) that project towards graduation, which it
> has successively done. I would like to help out as one of the mentors, and
> as a contributor/committer (of the other kind).
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Pierre Smits
> 
> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President & PMC
> Chair*
> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
> since 2008*
> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 11:42 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> We’d like to start a conversation around a new proposal for a set of
>> Java-based blockchain project.
>> 
>> I have written a proposal available here, and reproduced below:
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal <
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal>
>> 
>> At this time, we have a champion, Jim Jagielski (thanks Jim), and would
>> like to recruit additional developers and mentors.
>> 
>> We have deliberately left room on the project charter to engage openly
>> with the community. That said, we would start the project with code coming
>> from ConsenSys, and we will recruit developers from there and elsewhere
>> actively.
>> 
>> The goal of this thread is engage with the community and gather interest
>> for participation in the project. Please let us know what you think!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine Toulme
>> 
>> == Abstract ==
>> Cava is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
>> blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM languages.
>> 
>> Please note: Cava is a contraction of "ConsenSys Java". The community
>> should consider an alternate name.
>> 
>> = Proposal =
>> 
>> Cava is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
>> blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM languages.
>> It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and deserialization
>> codecs (e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions and primatives, and lots
>> of other helpful utilities.
>> Cava is developed for JDK 1.8 or higher, and depends on various other FOSS
>> libraries.
>> 
>> === Background ===
>> 
>> Cava was built as an open source project from the grounds up to accelerate
>> the maturation of the blockchain ecosystem, particularly in relation with
>> enterprise products predominantly built in Java.
>> Cava is used by several products today: Orion, Pantheon, and Artemis from
>> Pegasys.
>> 
>> Cava libraries are also used in various experiments regarding scalability,
>> such as Canto.
>> 
>> Several other community members would want to leverage Cava and would
>> benefit from working directly on the project outside of the influence of
>> the original corporate sponsor, ConsenSys.
>> 
>> === Rationale ===
>> 
>> Cava is organized as set of libraries that form the basis of most
>> blockchain, distributed ledgers or cryptography work.
>> 
>> Most of the work built for Cava was meant for Ethereum, but can be reused
>> across other blockchain technologies.
>> 
>> There is a need for blockchain implementors to use well trusted,
>> production-ready software to bootstrap their efforts.

Re: [PROPOSAL] New blockchain project: Cava

2019-02-05 Thread Antoine Toulme
Indeed, our logo on bintray is a bottle of wine :)

All, thanks for your enthusiastic replies. Please keep feedback coming!

I have added all the responses to the wiki page:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal 
<https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal>

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hey just because there is a restaurant chain called Cava does not mean that a 
> software project called Cava is not suitable.
> 
> BTW Cava is Spanish Sparkling Wine - it is like Champagne but made with 
> Spanish varietals. [1]
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> [1] https://winefolly.com/hidden/what-is-cava/
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for your interest, all.
>> 
>> Yes, the name of the project will very likely change.
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting proposal.  I would be interested in helping.  Seems like you
>>> don't need anymore mentors so I can volunteer in any capacity you need.
>>> 
>>> I think you are going to have trouble with the name though as
>>> https://cava.com/ is a great restaurant.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 6:36 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi -
>>>> 
>>>> I would also be happy to volunteer as a Mentor to this podling.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 3:28 PM, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to volunteer as an additional mentor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:57 PM Justin Mclean 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nice proposal. Just a couple of  comments.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The project is well established and counts 2 active committers. Some
>>>>>> contributions were made from the community.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Being that small may be a concern, the ASF prefers project with a
>>>>>> community around them, but it’s not always a barrier to entry see for
>>>>>> example Apache PLC4X.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Blockchain protocol developers organize well in communities, and some
>>>>>> lively discussions take place over Twitter, Gitter, Telegram.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At the ASF all decisions need to be made on the mailing list not on any
>>>>>> external platform mentioned above. Would the project be OK with moving
>>>>>> discussions to a mailing list and having them in an asynchronous manner?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We will remain in incubation for a period of no less than a year so we
>>>>>> can properly invest and build a community of users, contributors and
>>>>>> committers around our goals.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Most projects take more than a year to graduate, two years is usual but
>>>>>> some projects do take longer. Is the project OK with that and will your
>>>>>> mentors stay around for that long?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> '''Initial Committers'''
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Antoine Toulme (toulmean at apache dot org) *
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Seem odd to only list one initial committer, all initial committer s are
>>>>>> on the PPMC and you would need a minimum of 3 active people. The IPMC
>>>>>> generally likes to see 5.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Justin
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Re: [PROPOSAL] New blockchain project: Cava

2019-02-05 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks for your interest, all.

Yes, the name of the project will very likely change.

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> 
> Interesting proposal.  I would be interested in helping.  Seems like you
> don't need anymore mentors so I can volunteer in any capacity you need.
> 
> I think you are going to have trouble with the name though as
> https://cava.com/ is a great restaurant.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 6:36 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I would also be happy to volunteer as a Mentor to this podling.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 3:28 PM, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> I would like to volunteer as an additional mentor.
>>> 
>>> Kenn
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:57 PM Justin Mclean 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Nice proposal. Just a couple of  comments.
>>>> 
>>>>> The project is well established and counts 2 active committers. Some
>>>> contributions were made from the community.
>>>> 
>>>> Being that small may be a concern, the ASF prefers project with a
>>>> community around them, but it’s not always a barrier to entry see for
>>>> example Apache PLC4X.
>>>> 
>>>>> Blockchain protocol developers organize well in communities, and some
>>>> lively discussions take place over Twitter, Gitter, Telegram.
>>>> 
>>>> At the ASF all decisions need to be made on the mailing list not on any
>>>> external platform mentioned above. Would the project be OK with moving
>>>> discussions to a mailing list and having them in an asynchronous manner?
>>>> 
>>>>> We will remain in incubation for a period of no less than a year so we
>>>> can properly invest and build a community of users, contributors and
>>>> committers around our goals.
>>>> 
>>>> Most projects take more than a year to graduate, two years is usual but
>>>> some projects do take longer. Is the project OK with that and will your
>>>> mentors stay around for that long?
>>>> 
>>>>> '''Initial Committers'''
>>>>> 
>>>>> Antoine Toulme (toulmean at apache dot org) *
>>>> 
>>>> Seem odd to only list one initial committer, all initial committer s are
>>>> on the PPMC and you would need a minimum of 3 active people. The IPMC
>>>> generally likes to see 5.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Justin
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Re: [PROPOSAL] New blockchain project: Cava

2019-02-05 Thread Antoine Toulme
Thanks. I am replying inline:

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Nice proposal. Just a couple of  comments.
> 
>> The project is well established and counts 2 active committers. Some 
>> contributions were made from the community.
> 
> Being that small may be a concern, the ASF prefers project with a community 
> around them, but it’s not always a barrier to entry see for example Apache 
> PLC4X.
We actually have more interest and contributors, and making this proposal is 
going to help me engage them in the open.

I’d like to leverage this proposal process as much as possible to build the 
community.

> 
>> Blockchain protocol developers organize well in communities, and some lively 
>> discussions take place over Twitter, Gitter, Telegram.
> 
> At the ASF all decisions need to be made on the mailing list not on any 
> external platform mentioned above. Would the project be OK with moving 
> discussions to a mailing list and having them in an asynchronous manner?
This is absolutely fine, yes.

If that wasn’t clear, I lament the state of the communication channels of 
blockchain development communities. I believe proper mailing lists will help. 
And I think the culture of ASF will help us stick to that.

> 
>> We will remain in incubation for a period of no less than a year so we can 
>> properly invest and build a community of users, contributors and committers 
>> around our goals.
> 
> Most projects take more than a year to graduate, two years is usual but some 
> projects do take longer. Is the project OK with that and will your mentors 
> stay around for that long?
I’m OK with this. Will update.
> 
>> '''Initial Committers'''
>> 
>> Antoine Toulme (toulmean at apache dot org) *
> 
> Seem odd to only list one initial committer, all initial committer s are on 
> the PPMC and you would need a minimum of 3 active people. The IPMC generally 
> likes to see 5.
See above. I’m now collecting motions of support and will push for more people.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
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[PROPOSAL] New blockchain project: Cava

2019-02-05 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hi all,

We’d like to start a conversation around a new proposal for a set of Java-based 
blockchain project.

I have written a proposal available here, and reproduced below: 
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal 
<https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal>

At this time, we have a champion, Jim Jagielski (thanks Jim), and would like to 
recruit additional developers and mentors.

We have deliberately left room on the project charter to engage openly with the 
community. That said, we would start the project with code coming from 
ConsenSys, and we will recruit developers from there and elsewhere actively.

The goal of this thread is engage with the community and gather interest for 
participation in the project. Please let us know what you think!

Cheers,

Antoine Toulme

== Abstract ==
Cava is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of blockchain and 
other decentralized software in Java and other JVM languages.

Please note: Cava is a contraction of "ConsenSys Java". The community should 
consider an alternate name.

= Proposal =

Cava is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of blockchain and 
other decentralized software in Java and other JVM languages.
It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and deserialization codecs 
(e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions and primatives, and lots of other 
helpful utilities.
Cava is developed for JDK 1.8 or higher, and depends on various other FOSS 
libraries.

=== Background ===

Cava was built as an open source project from the grounds up to accelerate the 
maturation of the blockchain ecosystem, particularly in relation with 
enterprise products predominantly built in Java.
Cava is used by several products today: Orion, Pantheon, and Artemis from 
Pegasys.

Cava libraries are also used in various experiments regarding scalability, such 
as Canto.

Several other community members would want to leverage Cava and would benefit 
from working directly on the project outside of the influence of the original 
corporate sponsor, ConsenSys.

=== Rationale ===

Cava is organized as set of libraries that form the basis of most blockchain, 
distributed ledgers or cryptography work.

Most of the work built for Cava was meant for Ethereum, but can be reused 
across other blockchain technologies.

There is a need for blockchain implementors to use well trusted, 
production-ready software to bootstrap their efforts.

=== Initial Goals ===

The goal is to form a community of developers and adopters who will be able to 
collaborate openly around blockchain technologies and mature frameworks 
to reduce risk when implementing blockain-related projects.

=== Current Status ===

The project is well established and counts 2 active committers. Some 
contributions were made from the community.

The project has made several releases, distributed through Maven Central, with 
GPG signatures and proper Maven metadata published.

'''Meritocracy:'''

Active discussions on github issues and PRs has helped identify new possible 
commiters.

Our main goal, moving to Apache is to promote our project as a meritocracy 
under the guideline of the Apache Way to help foster a community around our 
efforts.

 * '''Community:'''

Blockchain protocol developers organize well in communities, and some lively 
discussions take place over Twitter, Gitter, Telegram.

We would like to create a community for dedicated Java developers to contribute 
to the blockchain space.

We currently have a little activity through the channels mentioned above, but 
no channel dedicated specifically to Cava is seeing a lot of traction.

 * '''Core Developers:'''

Cava was built by two developers with a long experience in open source work. 
Both lead separate open source projects.
One of the developers is the PMC Chair for Apache Buildr and a committer for 
Apache ODE.

 * '''Alignment:'''

We believe there isn't a blockchain TLP for Java at Apache at this time and 
would like to participate in establishing a presence in that domain of 
expertise.

We would rely and integrate closely with a number of projects hosted by the ASF 
such as Apache Camel.

'''Known Risks'''

 * '''Orphaned products''':

The contributors are committed to the development of the blockchain space and 
are employed by a leading vendor in blockchain.

The source code is used in a production setting by critical projects.

However, the number of initial developers and contributors is small, and we 
will need to ramp up our recruitment efforts.

 * '''Inexperience with Open Source:'''

The project was started from scratch as an open source project. All committers 
have experience with open source projects.

We did not make the effort of creating a detailed roadmap and organizing a 
collaborative approach to reaching to the community for feedback.
We aim to rely on the ASF infrastructure, especially Jira, to help create more 
visibility in this regard.

 * '''Length of Inc

Write access to wiki

2019-02-01 Thread Antoine Toulme
Hello folks,

Would it be possible to gain write access to the incubator wiki? My username is 
“Antoine Toulme”.

Thanks!

Antoine
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