Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
Jim, I would be pleased to pass you the batton. You most certainly will be a better mentor than I could be. Le mardi 13 septembre 2016, Jim Jagielski a écrit : > If you think I would be of help as a mentor, add me too... > > Understand if we are getting to too large a number

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Mark Struberg
Daniel of course has a much deeper expertise for infra as I'm mostly an occasional tinkerer and Daniel is one of our core server admins. Feel free to swap me out in favour of him. I expect that we go through different phases 1.) lots of legal questions, code provenance and CLA checks, IP

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi all They have also a fairly big forum at http://forums.netbeans.org/ wich is not listed on the proposal Regards Raphael On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Daniel Gruno

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Daniel, On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > ...Might I suggest, that if the project has a wider-than-normal > infrastructure requirement, that it accepts a member of the infra PMC as > a mentor or PPMC member (whatever fits best) so as to have a

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> I also realized that he'll be the only US-based mentors, so he can >> take all the press requests from there ;-) > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread David Nalley
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: >> What is the expected impact on infrastructure here?... > > I'll let Geertjan or someone else who's familiar with the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 09/13/2016 11:48 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: >> What is the expected impact on infrastructure here?... > > I'll let Geertjan or someone else who's familiar with the existing > setups comment on

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > I also realized that he'll be the only US-based mentors, so he can > take all the press requests from there ;-) I am unaware, that taking press requests is part of mentor duties. One reason to hesitate in the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > Jim is always good to have on board. Unbeatable expertise and he knows how to > deal > with the good, the bad and the ugly of Oracle on a big scale as well... Very good points! I also realized that he'll be the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi at all As a ex Committer and PMC from Apache OpenOffice and contributor to the legacy OpenOffice.org project, I will keep a close eye on this. Infrastructure seems to be similar to OpenOffice. How ever, the Project is a different one. Regards Raphael On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Bertrand

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Mark Struberg
Jim is always good to have on board. Unbeatable expertise and he knows how to deal with the good, the bad and the ugly of Oracle on a big scale as well. LieGrue, strub > On Tuesday, 13 September 2016, 14:25, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, Sep 13,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > If you think I would be of help as a mentor, add me too... > Understand if we are getting to too large a number though Thanks for your offer! What do the other mentors think? We are four mentors already which is

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi John, On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:12 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > ...I would like to understand the project's path forward in case Oracle pulls > out support up front. Meaning, they provide a grant, but then all Oracle > employees leave During incubation you mean?

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi John, On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:12 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > ...I'm also concerned about the press that this is causing, for instance at > [1]. This is already being compared to OpenOffice... As you can imagine, we did envision such comparisons being made, both

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi John, I'll reply separately to your different points. On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:12 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > ...I too share some of the infra concerns Daniel's pointed out. For instance, > where it is referenced one large hg repository, I count 33 repositories >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
If you think I would be of help as a mentor, add me too... Understand if we are getting to too large a number though. > On Sep 13, 2016, at 5:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Mark Struberg >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Mark Struberg
Regarding GPL licensed plugins: I guess there will be a need for 2 plugin repos. One 'core' for plugins which are ALv2, another one for the rest. Similar to what we had with apacheextras. Of course this gets much tougher for parts Oracle cannot re-license under ALv2 but are needed by the core.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread John D. Ament
Hi Bertrand, Geertjan, I too share some of the infra concerns Daniel's pointed out. For instance, where it is referenced one large hg repository, I count 33 repositories hosted on hg.netbeans.org. Some of them haven't been maintained in a while, so I wonder if they're relevant or not. I'm also

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Daniel, On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > What is the expected impact on infrastructure here?... I'll let Geertjan or someone else who's familiar with the existing setups comment on the below list, from the Special Infrastructure Requests in the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Daniel Gruno
What is the expected impact on infrastructure here? I see a lot of mentions of moving existing infrastructure to the ASF, I see very little about what it really entails and how large it is. For instance, what is plugins.netbeans.org and what's the setup there like? With regards, Daniel. On

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Mark, On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > ...If you need an additional Mentor with a slight Infra background then feel > free to sign me up... Ok, I've done that, thanks! I'm not in favor of "too many" mentors but the exact number is hard to

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-13 Thread Mark Struberg
If you need an additional Mentor with a slight Infra background then feel free to sign me up. LieGrue, strub > On Tuesday, 13 September 2016, 9:40, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Attached to this message is a proposed new project -

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