Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus

2013-03-24 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: One alternative to going for full-on majority voting is to recognize that a larger group is much more likely to have noisy vetoes by requiring that successful votes have n positive votes and m negative votes subject to

Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus

2013-03-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, following a thread on private@, I would like to bring the discussion on how we vote on nominated IPMC members. We had the case were one person was nominated and received three +1. Another voter had concerns an voted -1. The vote has been marked as failed, because no consensus could be found.

Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus

2013-03-23 Thread Ted Dunning
One alternative to going for full-on majority voting is to recognize that a larger group is much more likely to have noisy vetoes by requiring that successful votes have n positive votes and m negative votes subject to some condition on n and m. Majority requires n m, strict Apache consensus

Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus

2013-03-23 Thread John D. Ament
Christian My opinion only... 1. 172 PPMC members is a lot (I'm assuming you mean PPMC) (IPMC is defined here: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html). As far as I know, PPMC members is a superset of committers. Even here, PPMC votes and Committer votes are

Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus

2013-03-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
John, On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:29 PM, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com wrote: 1. 172 PPMC members is a lot (I'm assuming you mean PPMC) (IPMC is defined here: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html). No, I actually mean the IPMC:

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