Thank you for your review and insight.
We are canceling this vote to address the NOTICE files and other issues and
then create a new release candidate.


On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:29 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2 December 2013 20:44, Kevin Minder <kmin...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Sebb,
> >
> > Thanks for your careful review.  I'd like your continued insight into two
> > specific issues that you have raised.
> >
> > WRT the NOTICE files in root vs gatway-release/home, this is actually an
> > issue that I struggled with when laying things out initially.  We
> certainly
> > don't include the source for 3rd party products anywhere.  This covers
> why
> > they are not mentioned in NOTICE at the top level of the source
> > repo/archive.  The NOTICE file in gatway-release/home ends up in the root
> > of our binary distributions.  This binary distribution does contain the
> > JARs for those 3rd party products.  Therefore I thought I was following
> the
> > rules by having these two NOTICE files be different and represent the
> > actual content of the respective archives.
>
> I see.
> In which case it would be better if the files were called something
> like NOTICE.binary or NOTICE_binary and copied to the appropriate file
> names as part of the assembly descriptor. That would avoid any
> possible confusion for end-users.
>
>
> The binary NOTICE still has "developed by" when it should be "developed
> at".
>
> It's important that the NOTICE file only contains required attributions.
> See http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#mod-notice
>
> It seems to me that some (most?) of the references are *not* required.
> For example the ANTLR license should be covered by the inclusion of
> the text in the LICENSE file. It does not also need to be in NOTICE.
> Similarly for ASM, Bouncy Castle etc.
>
> See the following page for more info on what licenses are permitted in
> binary distributions:
> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
>
> > For hadoop-examples.jar I understand your reaction.  I would like to try
> > and justify the inclusion for this specific use case however.  This JAR
> is
> > included for "ease of use", especially for first time users.  Basically
> to
> > use Knox with Hadoop you need to have an existing Hadoop "application".
> > Our user's guide walks through an example of uploading and running this
> > sample Hadoop application. (It is not used at compile time at all).  If
> we
> > don't check this into SCM and build it as part of Knox, that would
> create a
> > tight coupling between Knox and a specific Hadoop version only used to
> > create this post-install sample JAR file.  I think about this similar to
> > including a sample JPEG in a image processor distribution.  There you
> > wouldn't expect the JPEG to be build from source.
>
> That's not a good analogy as jpegs are rarely built from source.
>
> There has to be a better way to handle the Hadoop jar.
>
> > All that being said, we
> > certainly shouldn't have two copies, although fixing that will be an
> > interesting maven challenge.
>
> Assembly descriptors allow files to be copied to a different place in
> the archive.
> This is trivial, so there is definitely no need for *two* copies.
>
> AFAIK Maven also allows jars to be included from the local repo, so it
> should be possible to remove the copies from the source entirely.
>
> > Thanks again for your continued feedback!
> >
> > Kevin.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:24 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2 December 2013 20:17, Larry McCay <lmc...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> >> > Thank you  again, Sebb.
> >> > I am noting your new findings here and will fix them asap for the next
> >> > release.
> >> >
> >> > I assume that your lack of an actual vote indicates that these fixes
> can
> >> be
> >> > made in the next release and that you are not indicating that this RC
> >> > should be abandoned. Please let me know if this is an inappropriate
> >> > assumption.
> >>
> >> Sorry, I should have said - I think the problems are blockers.
> >> It's vital that the NOTICE and LICENSE files are correct for ASF
> releases.
> >>
> >> So if I were the RM, I would want to redo the release.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:30 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 20 November 2013 16:09, larry mccay <larry.mc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> > Hello All,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is a call for a vote on Apache Knox Gateway 0.3.1 incubating.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > A vote was held on developer mailing list and it passed with 3
> +1's,
> >> and
> >> >> 0
> >> >> > -1's or +0's and now
> >> >> > requires a vote on general@incubator.apache.org.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The [VOTE] thread can be found at:
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-knox-dev/201311.mbox/%3CCACRbFyjgLrCSahhtWWHK-%3DaeQFM4Oegbe3fQjs-RV2-TAnhdxA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The release candidate is a zip archive of the sources in:
> >> >> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-knox.git
> >> >> > Branch v0.3.1 (git checkout -b v0.3.1)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Tag:
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-knox.git;a=tag;h=5a907022dbc2b0a8534de47fe7b8c871c4f075f9
> >> >>
> >> >> The NOTICE file is wrong:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-knox.git;a=blob_plain;f=NOTICE;hb=61e85e0b89b415361159bb973d050bdd8ab92acb
> >> >>
> >> >> The lines enclosed in == need to be removed.
> >> >>
> >> >> "This product includes software developed by"
> >> >> should be
> >> >> "This product includes software developed at"
> >> >>
> >> >> There is another NOTICE and LICENSE file at
> >> >> gatway-release/home
> >> >> These are completely different from the ones at the top-level, and
> >> >> mention a lot of 3rd party products.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does the source archive really contain all the 3rd party products as
> >> >> source?
> >> >> If so, then this needs to be in the NOTICE and LICENSE files at the
> >> >> top-level of SCM and the source archive.
> >> >> If not, the references need to be removed.
> >> >>
> >> >> The N&L files must only relate to bits which are actually included in
> >> >> the distribution (SCM/source archive/binary archive).
> >> >>
> >> >> > Source archive zip file and signature are available from:
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/knox/knox-incubating-0.3.1/knox-incubating-0.3.1-src.zip
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/knox/knox-incubating-0.3.1/knox-incubating-0.3.1-src.zip.asc
> >> >>
> >> >> The source archive contains two copies of the binary archive
> >> >> hadoop-examples.jar.
> >> >> External binary dependencies should not be bundled in the source (nor
> >> >> in the SCM).
> >> >>
> >> >> > Checksums of the source archive:
> >> >> >   SHA1:   04bb11360f57c0431c30cfb181e3199868fe6053
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The KEYS file can be found at:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/knox/knox-incubating-0.3.1/KEYS
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The release changes file can be found at:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/knox/knox-incubating-0.3.1/CHANGES
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The release has been signed with key (587C089B):
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x82F9C371587C089B
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Vote will be open for 72 hours.
> >> >>
> >> >> (a minimum of)
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > thanks,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --larry
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Larry McCay
> >> >>
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