Re: [DISUCSS] Is there any neccessary to do an Apache Release if we publish an App to Apple Store?

2019-11-09 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

> So, what's the step?
> 
>   1. Call a normal Apache Vote
>   2. Build the App and upload to App Store with ASF's Apple Developer
>   Account using the code in step 1

That sounds right to me, in 1 I assume you are voting on a source release.

Thanks,
Justin


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Re: [DISUCSS] Is there any neccessary to do an Apache Release if we publish an App to Apple Store?

2019-11-07 Thread 申远
So, what's the step?

   1. Call a normal Apache Vote
   2. Build the App and upload to App Store with ASF's Apple Developer
   Account using the code in step 1



Best Regards,
YorkShen

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Greg Stein  于2019年11月8日周五 上午8:57写道:

> We're trying to do better on what services are available, so consider this
> "step one" :-)
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:19 PM Julian Feinauer <
> j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Greg, I didn't know that!
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > Am 07.11.19, 19:24 schrieb "Greg Stein" :
> >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Distribution+via+the+Apple+App+Store
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 12:14 PM Greg Stein  wrote:
> >
> > > An app signed by the Foundation is most definitely associated with
> > the
> > > ASF. The Foundation has an Apple Developer Account for exactly this
> > reason.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:17 AM Justin Mclean <
> > jus...@classsoftware.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> A binary convenance release needs to be created from released
> voted
> > on
> > >> code. [1]
> > >>
> > >> However if some 3rd party (not the PPMC) wants to use unreleased
> > code and
> > >> make a “release” from it and put that somewhere but it needs to be
> > clear
> > >> that this is not in anyway associated with the ASF and it needs to
> > respects
> > >> ASF branding and trademarks.Doing [1] is probably easier so I
> > suggest you
> > >> go down that path.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Justin
> > >>
> > >> 1.
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
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Re: [DISUCSS] Is there any neccessary to do an Apache Release if we publish an App to Apple Store?

2019-11-07 Thread Greg Stein
We're trying to do better on what services are available, so consider this
"step one" :-)


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:19 PM Julian Feinauer 
wrote:

> Thanks Greg, I didn't know that!
>
> Julian
>
> Am 07.11.19, 19:24 schrieb "Greg Stein" :
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Distribution+via+the+Apple+App+Store
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 12:14 PM Greg Stein  wrote:
>
> > An app signed by the Foundation is most definitely associated with
> the
> > ASF. The Foundation has an Apple Developer Account for exactly this
> reason.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:17 AM Justin Mclean <
> jus...@classsoftware.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> A binary convenance release needs to be created from released voted
> on
> >> code. [1]
> >>
> >> However if some 3rd party (not the PPMC) wants to use unreleased
> code and
> >> make a “release” from it and put that somewhere but it needs to be
> clear
> >> that this is not in anyway associated with the ASF and it needs to
> respects
> >> ASF branding and trademarks.Doing [1] is probably easier so I
> suggest you
> >> go down that path.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Justin
> >>
> >> 1.
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
> >>
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> >>
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Re: [DISUCSS] Is there any neccessary to do an Apache Release if we publish an App to Apple Store?

2019-11-07 Thread Julian Feinauer
Thanks Greg, I didn't know that!

Julian

Am 07.11.19, 19:24 schrieb "Greg Stein" :


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Distribution+via+the+Apple+App+Store

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 12:14 PM Greg Stein  wrote:

> An app signed by the Foundation is most definitely associated with the
> ASF. The Foundation has an Apple Developer Account for exactly this 
reason.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:17 AM Justin Mclean 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A binary convenance release needs to be created from released voted on
>> code. [1]
>>
>> However if some 3rd party (not the PPMC) wants to use unreleased code and
>> make a “release” from it and put that somewhere but it needs to be clear
>> that this is not in anyway associated with the ASF and it needs to 
respects
>> ASF branding and trademarks.Doing [1] is probably easier so I suggest you
>> go down that path.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>>
>> 1. http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
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Re: [DISUCSS] Is there any neccessary to do an Apache Release if we publish an App to Apple Store?

2019-11-07 Thread Greg Stein
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Distribution+via+the+Apple+App+Store

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 12:14 PM Greg Stein  wrote:

> An app signed by the Foundation is most definitely associated with the
> ASF. The Foundation has an Apple Developer Account for exactly this reason.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:17 AM Justin Mclean 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A binary convenance release needs to be created from released voted on
>> code. [1]
>>
>> However if some 3rd party (not the PPMC) wants to use unreleased code and
>> make a “release” from it and put that somewhere but it needs to be clear
>> that this is not in anyway associated with the ASF and it needs to respects
>> ASF branding and trademarks.Doing [1] is probably easier so I suggest you
>> go down that path.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>>
>> 1. http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
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Re: [DISUCSS] Is there any neccessary to do an Apache Release if we publish an App to Apple Store?

2019-11-07 Thread Greg Stein
An app signed by the Foundation is most definitely associated with the ASF.
The Foundation has an Apple Developer Account for exactly this reason.


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:17 AM Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A binary convenance release needs to be created from released voted on
> code. [1]
>
> However if some 3rd party (not the PPMC) wants to use unreleased code and
> make a “release” from it and put that somewhere but it needs to be clear
> that this is not in anyway associated with the ASF and it needs to respects
> ASF branding and trademarks.Doing [1] is probably easier so I suggest you
> go down that path.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
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Re: [DISUCSS] Is there any neccessary to do an Apache Release if we publish an App to Apple Store?

2019-11-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

A binary convenance release needs to be created from released voted on code. [1]

However if some 3rd party (not the PPMC) wants to use unreleased code and make 
a “release” from it and put that somewhere but it needs to be clear that this 
is not in anyway associated with the ASF and it needs to respects ASF branding 
and trademarks.Doing [1] is probably easier so I suggest you go down that path.

Thanks,
Justin

1. http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
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Re: [DISUCSS] Is there any neccessary to do an Apache Release if we publish an App to Apple Store?

2019-11-07 Thread Julian Feinauer
Hi,

I think this cannot be done as PMC or PPMC as it would be a "binary release" 
which we cannot do with the ASF policy.
So I think another entity than the ASF / the PMC would need to put the App in 
the store, and then you are also free with regards to releases.

Julian

Am 07.11.19, 14:34 schrieb "申远" :

I am OK with the normal release procedure if we have to.

But I'd like to know the boundary line here, why we don't need go though
the release procedure for Apache Project Website and why we need it for an
App built from Apache code. What's the difference here?

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Jamie G.  于2019年11月7日周四 下午9:07写道:

> The App should follow a release process - vetting, vote, signatures,
> tag on source repository, etc.
>
> The community should approve its release.
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:29 AM 申远  wrote:
> >
> > Hi, there
> >
> > I'd like to know whether it's necessary to do an Apache Release if we
> > publish an App to Apple Store using the code of Apache Weex [1]. I
> > understand there is no need to do an Apache Release if we publish
> projects
> > website, but what if we publish an App to iOS Apple Store?
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-playground/tree/master/ios
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
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Re: [DISUCSS] Is there any neccessary to do an Apache Release if we publish an App to Apple Store?

2019-11-07 Thread Jamie G.
Releasing an Apache project (artifact) requires community oversight.
The released artifact going to an FTP server, Maven central. or other
location is a separate concern.

The website describing the projects, its news, etc is less of an
artifact - more of a living document about the community.

At Apache Karaf we keep our website code on a git repo
https://github.com/apache/karaf-site, with the appropriate lock downs
to ensure only those with the correct Karma can update the website.


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:04 AM 申远  wrote:
>
> I am OK with the normal release procedure if we have to.
>
> But I'd like to know the boundary line here, why we don't need go though
> the release procedure for Apache Project Website and why we need it for an
> App built from Apache code. What's the difference here?
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> Jamie G.  于2019年11月7日周四 下午9:07写道:
>
> > The App should follow a release process - vetting, vote, signatures,
> > tag on source repository, etc.
> >
> > The community should approve its release.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:29 AM 申远  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, there
> > >
> > > I'd like to know whether it's necessary to do an Apache Release if we
> > > publish an App to Apple Store using the code of Apache Weex [1]. I
> > > understand there is no need to do an Apache Release if we publish
> > projects
> > > website, but what if we publish an App to iOS Apple Store?
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-playground/tree/master/ios
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > YorkShen
> > >
> > > 申远
> >
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Re: [DISUCSS] Is there any neccessary to do an Apache Release if we publish an App to Apple Store?

2019-11-07 Thread 申远
I am OK with the normal release procedure if we have to.

But I'd like to know the boundary line here, why we don't need go though
the release procedure for Apache Project Website and why we need it for an
App built from Apache code. What's the difference here?

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Jamie G.  于2019年11月7日周四 下午9:07写道:

> The App should follow a release process - vetting, vote, signatures,
> tag on source repository, etc.
>
> The community should approve its release.
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:29 AM 申远  wrote:
> >
> > Hi, there
> >
> > I'd like to know whether it's necessary to do an Apache Release if we
> > publish an App to Apple Store using the code of Apache Weex [1]. I
> > understand there is no need to do an Apache Release if we publish
> projects
> > website, but what if we publish an App to iOS Apple Store?
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-playground/tree/master/ios
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
>
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Re: [DISUCSS] Is there any neccessary to do an Apache Release if we publish an App to Apple Store?

2019-11-07 Thread Jamie G.
The App should follow a release process - vetting, vote, signatures,
tag on source repository, etc.

The community should approve its release.

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:29 AM 申远  wrote:
>
> Hi, there
>
> I'd like to know whether it's necessary to do an Apache Release if we
> publish an App to Apple Store using the code of Apache Weex [1]. I
> understand there is no need to do an Apache Release if we publish projects
> website, but what if we publish an App to iOS Apple Store?
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-playground/tree/master/ios
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远

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[DISUCSS] Is there any neccessary to do an Apache Release if we publish an App to Apple Store?

2019-11-07 Thread 申远
Hi, there

I'd like to know whether it's necessary to do an Apache Release if we
publish an App to Apple Store using the code of Apache Weex [1]. I
understand there is no need to do an Apache Release if we publish projects
website, but what if we publish an App to iOS Apple Store?

[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-playground/tree/master/ios

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远