Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

Thanks Hendrik for your hard work on the project and for dealing with the graduation process. Le jeu 7 avr. 2016 22:35, Hendrik Dev a écrit : > I think we reached consensus, so let me close this vote and report the > (formal) result: > > There are 11 +1 votes (more than

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

Awesome. My +1 as well. Thanks for the feedback. Jean-Louis Le jeu 7 avr. 2016 17:27, Ted Dunning a écrit : > I say let it go. > > My own guess is that unless there is a strong recruitment effort it will > soon become unreleasable, but, as Roman points out, there are

[RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

I think we reached consensus, so let me close this vote and report the (formal) result: There are 11 +1 votes (more than 5 of them binding), no 0 and no -1 votes (one was withdrawn) So this vote passed, we will submit the resolution to the board. Thanks to all who cast their vote and thanks

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

I say let it go. My own guess is that unless there is a strong recruitment effort it will soon become unreleasable, but, as Roman points out, there are mechanisms to deal with that. On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:17 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > So what do we have to do to draw

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

So what do we have to do to draw this vote to a resolution? It seems that the general consensus is positive to graduate, but there's some concerns over the size of the podling. It satisfies the minimum practical TLP. John On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:14 PM Roman Shaposhnik

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > The strict limit is 3. The practical limit is probably more like 5. Like I said: FWIW I see no problem with a project with a PMC count of 3 active members. We have board reports for a reason (should that active bit ever

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

The strict limit is 3. The practical limit is probably more like 5. On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Mark Struberg > wrote: > > We again got a few contributions in the last days, so I

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > We again got a few contributions in the last days, so I really think we will > do fine and add committers soon. FWIW: I'm honestly very relaxed about the # of committers. All the project has to have is an active

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

We again got a few contributions in the last days, so I really think we will do fine and add committers soon. LieGrue, strub > On Thursday, 7 April 2016, 4:03, John D. Ament wrote: > > It seems that the general consensus is a +1. > Is there anyone who has a strong

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

It seems that the general consensus is a +1. Is there anyone who has a strong feeling that Johnzon shouldn't graduate? On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:42 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > +1 from my side. Small projects are ok. > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Mattmann, Chris A

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

+1 from my side. Small projects are ok. On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: > +1 from me. > > ++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Chief Architect > Instrument Software and Science

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

+1 for graduation (binding) I don’t see any value in keeping Johnzon in incubation. The project seems to be ticking along, with several releases, frequent commits, and a low excitement but active community. Craig > On Apr 1, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Hendrik Dev wrote: > >

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

+1 from me. ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Chief Architect Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

+1 I'd like to further elaborate why we did not choose to graduate under Geronimo or TomEE. * TomEE: Johnzon is not only bound to a JavaEE container but could really be used separately, e.g. in CXF. It would be kind of weird if we need to do a Johnzon release in TomEE first, then build CXF to

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

I agree with Justin, there is no real benefit (either for the podling nor for apache/incubator) when Johnzon stays in the Incubator. We have an active, friendly, diverse and responsive community, we had regular releases, we promote Johnzon [1] and Jira tickets are typically closed a few days

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

Good morning! Of course Johnzon could be bigger. And as said before: there are 3 active committers (not 2!) and an active PMC. Plus there are at least 2 further people who contributed patches and are on our watch-list. I also believe that we are a really friendly community :) That said I

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

Hi, I agree the project doesn’t have a large visible active community but I’m also not sure what the point of having Johnzon staying in the incubator. They tick along nicely, they certainly don’t need the incubator to check their releases and they understand the Apache Way of doing things.

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

Le 5 avr. 2016 05:16, "John D. Ament" a écrit : > > I have to agree with Ted's synopsis. After reviewing the podling's > proposal compared to current date, it seems that there's actually been a > dramatic decrease in committers since inception. I didn't realize that >

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

I have to agree with Ted's synopsis. After reviewing the podling's proposal compared to current date, it seems that there's actually been a dramatic decrease in committers since inception. I didn't realize that when originally looking. I do however want to clarify - I think Johnzon is mature.

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

My suggestion would be to work on building community first. Not pulling in new committers and PMC members is evidence of a serious community bug. It could be lack of marketing, unfriendly natives, cliquishness or an idea that just doesn't have legs. Probably it is something I didn't think of. In

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

So, what are the next steps? Do we have to postpone the graduation and try to bring up more contributors before? Or do we want to still graduate and work out the community growth after? Jean-Louis Le lun. 4 avr. 2016 à 02:50, Niall Pemberton a écrit : > On Sun,

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 11:54 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Niali, > > I don't disagree with your assessment. In actuality, Johnzon has only > added one committer in its 22 months in the incubator, who later joined > their PPMC and is now slated to be their VP. However,

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

Niali, I don't disagree with your assessment. In actuality, Johnzon has only added one committer in its 22 months in the incubator, who later joined their PPMC and is now slated to be their VP. However, adding committers isn't the only form of community growth we expect to see when graduating.

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

Le 3 avr. 2016 23:58, "Niall Pemberton" a écrit : > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Mark Struberg > wrote: > > > Please look at more current data > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-johnzon/graphs/contributors > > > I didn't see

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > Please look at more current data > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-johnzon/graphs/contributors I didn't see your commits today - but otherwise doesn't look alot difference. Also note that there are patches

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

Please look at more current data https://github.com/apache/incubator-johnzon/graphs/contributors Also note that there are patches applied from contributors via Jira patches and NOT via git-pull. Thus they show not up in the graph above. >From that category we have Reinhard Sandtner (apacheId

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

Johnzon reports for June, Sept & Dec 2015 all listed "adding new committers/pmc members" in the "most important issues to address in the move towards graduation" - but in that time there were no changes to the community. So what changed to make the ppmc/mentors now think the project is ready to

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

+1 (binding) LieGrue, strub > On Saturday, 2 April 2016, 19:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré > wrote: > > +1 (binding) > > Regards > JB > > On 04/01/2016 09:49 PM, Hendrik Dev wrote: >> The Apache Johnzon community has discussed and voted on graduation to >> a top level

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

+1 (binding) Regards JB On 04/01/2016 09:49 PM, Hendrik Dev wrote: The Apache Johnzon community has discussed and voted on graduation to a top level project. The vote passed with 8 +1 votes (5 from the PPMC) and no 0 or -1 votes. Incubation Status:

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

+1 (binding) On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: > +1 non-binding > On 1 Apr 2016 20:49, "Hendrik Dev" wrote: > > > The Apache Johnzon community has discussed and voted on graduation to > > a top level project. The vote passed

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

+1 non-binding On 1 Apr 2016 20:49, "Hendrik Dev" wrote: > The Apache Johnzon community has discussed and voted on graduation to > a top level project. The vote passed with 8 +1 votes (5 from the PPMC) > and no 0 or -1 votes. > > Incubation Status: >

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

+1 Thks Amol On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 4:10 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > +1 > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:49 PM Hendrik Dev wrote: > > > The Apache Johnzon community has discussed and voted on graduation to > > a top level project. The vote passed

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

+1 On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:49 PM Hendrik Dev wrote: > The Apache Johnzon community has discussed and voted on graduation to > a top level project. The vote passed with 8 +1 votes (5 from the PPMC) > and no 0 or -1 votes. > > Incubation Status: >

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

+1 Le 1 avr. 2016 21:49, "Hendrik Dev" a écrit : > The Apache Johnzon community has discussed and voted on graduation to > a top level project. The vote passed with 8 +1 votes (5 from the PPMC) > and no 0 or -1 votes. > > Incubation Status: >

[VOTE] Graduate Johnzon from the Incubator

The Apache Johnzon community has discussed and voted on graduation to a top level project. The vote passed with 8 +1 votes (5 from the PPMC) and no 0 or -1 votes. Incubation Status: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/johnzon.html Maturity Assessment: https://s.apache.org/d88S Discussions: