Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
+1 from me (binding). Karl On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: With Jukka's vote, that's 2 down. We need one more... Karl On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Tommaso Teofili tommaso.teof...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Tommaso 2012/1/4 Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com Hello Incubator IPMC, Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.4-incubating, RC2. This RC has passed our podling vote and awaits your inspection. You can find the artifact at http://people.apache.org/~kwright/apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, or in svn at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/tags/release-0.4-incubating-RC2 . Thanks in advance! Karl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[RESULT][VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
Three binding +1's, 72 hours, vote passes. Karl On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: +1 from me (binding). Karl On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: With Jukka's vote, that's 2 down. We need one more... Karl On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Tommaso Teofili tommaso.teof...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Tommaso 2012/1/4 Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com Hello Incubator IPMC, Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.4-incubating, RC2. This RC has passed our podling vote and awaits your inspection. You can find the artifact at http://people.apache.org/~kwright/apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, or in svn at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/tags/release-0.4-incubating-RC2 . Thanks in advance! Karl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
Thanks, Jukka. Waiting for the last IPMC vote has become the longest and most uncertain part of the ManifoldCF release process. Considering the amount of effort and good work that the committers put into each release, it's surely not too much to ask for someone here to have a look at it? (We apologize; we really hate to bother you all, but those ARE the rules...) Respectfully, Karl On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: With Jukka's vote, that's 2 down. We need one more... Anyone mind helping with the release? BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 02:11:49PM -0500, Karl Wright wrote: Waiting for the last IPMC vote has become the longest and most uncertain part of the ManifoldCF release process. Considering the amount of effort and good work that the committers put into each release, it's surely not too much to ask for someone here to have a look at it? (We apologize; we really hate to bother you all, but those ARE the rules...) (Apologies in advance that this isn't a VOTE email...) For what it's worth, I tried to review a release candidate for an earlier ManifoldCF release, but I had to give up because I just didn't feel qualified to evaluate the legal aspect given ManifoldCF's large number of dependencies and my limited Java-fu. I find it very challenging to step in as a freelance IPMC member to cast a release vote on a project I haven't been involved with. I definitely consider the difficulty in scraping up these votes to be a significant weakness in how the Incubator operates right now, but I don't have any ideas about how to improve the situation. :( Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
The solution is simple, bring more IPMC members in from the ManifoldCF podling. That is exactly what we did for Lucy! From: Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2 On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 02:11:49PM -0500, Karl Wright wrote: Waiting for the last IPMC vote has become the longest and most uncertain part of the ManifoldCF release process. Considering the amount of effort and good work that the committers put into each release, it's surely not too much to ask for someone here to have a look at it? (We apologize; we really hate to bother you all, but those ARE the rules...) (Apologies in advance that this isn't a VOTE email...) For what it's worth, I tried to review a release candidate for an earlier ManifoldCF release, but I had to give up because I just didn't feel qualified to evaluate the legal aspect given ManifoldCF's large number of dependencies and my limited Java-fu. I find it very challenging to step in as a freelance IPMC member to cast a release vote on a project I haven't been involved with. I definitely consider the difficulty in scraping up these votes to be a significant weakness in how the Incubator operates right now, but I don't have any ideas about how to improve the situation. :( Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
Sounds intriguing. How is this done? I'm afraid I'm vague as to the process by which people become IPMC members. Karl On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: The solution is simple, bring more IPMC members in from the ManifoldCF podling. That is exactly what we did for Lucy! From: Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2 On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 02:11:49PM -0500, Karl Wright wrote: Waiting for the last IPMC vote has become the longest and most uncertain part of the ManifoldCF release process. Considering the amount of effort and good work that the committers put into each release, it's surely not too much to ask for someone here to have a look at it? (We apologize; we really hate to bother you all, but those ARE the rules...) (Apologies in advance that this isn't a VOTE email...) For what it's worth, I tried to review a release candidate for an earlier ManifoldCF release, but I had to give up because I just didn't feel qualified to evaluate the legal aspect given ManifoldCF's large number of dependencies and my limited Java-fu. I find it very challenging to step in as a freelance IPMC member to cast a release vote on a project I haven't been involved with. I definitely consider the difficulty in scraping up these votes to be a significant weakness in how the Incubator operates right now, but I don't have any ideas about how to improve the situation. :( Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
Thanks for at least having a look at this! Even if you find the main release to be too big to look at, the three ManifoldCF plugins, which have separate release packages (and vote threads) are quite small with extremely limited dependencies. Maybe those would be easier to digest? ;-) Karl On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 02:11:49PM -0500, Karl Wright wrote: Waiting for the last IPMC vote has become the longest and most uncertain part of the ManifoldCF release process. Considering the amount of effort and good work that the committers put into each release, it's surely not too much to ask for someone here to have a look at it? (We apologize; we really hate to bother you all, but those ARE the rules...) (Apologies in advance that this isn't a VOTE email...) For what it's worth, I tried to review a release candidate for an earlier ManifoldCF release, but I had to give up because I just didn't feel qualified to evaluate the legal aspect given ManifoldCF's large number of dependencies and my limited Java-fu. I find it very challenging to step in as a freelance IPMC member to cast a release vote on a project I haven't been involved with. I definitely consider the difficulty in scraping up these votes to be a significant weakness in how the Incubator operates right now, but I don't have any ideas about how to improve the situation. :( Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
Generally good mentors recognize candidates from their podlings who would make good IPMC members and nominate them privately, just as podlings nominate members for their own PPMC. From: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2 Sounds intriguing. How is this done? I'm afraid I'm vague as to the process by which people become IPMC members. Karl On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: The solution is simple, bring more IPMC members in from the ManifoldCF podling. That is exactly what we did for Lucy! From: Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2 On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 02:11:49PM -0500, Karl Wright wrote: Waiting for the last IPMC vote has become the longest and most uncertain part of the ManifoldCF release process. Considering the amount of effort and good work that the committers put into each release, it's surely not too much to ask for someone here to have a look at it? (We apologize; we really hate to bother you all, but those ARE the rules...) (Apologies in advance that this isn't a VOTE email...) For what it's worth, I tried to review a release candidate for an earlier ManifoldCF release, but I had to give up because I just didn't feel qualified to evaluate the legal aspect given ManifoldCF's large number of dependencies and my limited Java-fu. I find it very challenging to step in as a freelance IPMC member to cast a release vote on a project I haven't been involved with. I definitely consider the difficulty in scraping up these votes to be a significant weakness in how the Incubator operates right now, but I don't have any ideas about how to improve the situation. :( Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
Let's make this simple for me: I see that the project has already successfully released 3 times now. Who has been the RM for each release? From: Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2 Generally good mentors recognize candidates from their podlings who would make good IPMC members and nominate them privately, just as podlings nominate members for their own PPMC. From: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2 Sounds intriguing. How is this done? I'm afraid I'm vague as to the process by which people become IPMC members. Karl On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: The solution is simple, bring more IPMC members in from the ManifoldCF podling. That is exactly what we did for Lucy! From: Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2 On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 02:11:49PM -0500, Karl Wright wrote: Waiting for the last IPMC vote has become the longest and most uncertain part of the ManifoldCF release process. Considering the amount of effort and good work that the committers put into each release, it's surely not too much to ask for someone here to have a look at it? (We apologize; we really hate to bother you all, but those ARE the rules...) (Apologies in advance that this isn't a VOTE email...) For what it's worth, I tried to review a release candidate for an earlier ManifoldCF release, but I had to give up because I just didn't feel qualified to evaluate the legal aspect given ManifoldCF's large number of dependencies and my limited Java-fu. I find it very challenging to step in as a freelance IPMC member to cast a release vote on a project I haven't been involved with. I definitely consider the difficulty in scraping up these votes to be a significant weakness in how the Incubator operates right now, but I don't have any ideas about how to improve the situation. :( Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
Hi, On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: The solution is simple, bring more IPMC members in from the ManifoldCF podling. Simple and obvious, yet I never thought about this. Thanks for bringing it up! BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
The battle to allow this for podlings I work on was fought and won several months ago. It's certainly time to expand that experiment to the rest of our podlings. From: Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2 Hi, On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: The solution is simple, bring more IPMC members in from the ManifoldCF podling. Simple and obvious, yet I never thought about this. Thanks for bringing it up! BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
I was the RM for each release. Karl On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Let's make this simple for me: I see that the project has already successfully released 3 times now. Who has been the RM for each release? From: Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2 Generally good mentors recognize candidates from their podlings who would make good IPMC members and nominate them privately, just as podlings nominate members for their own PPMC. From: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2 Sounds intriguing. How is this done? I'm afraid I'm vague as to the process by which people become IPMC members. Karl On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: The solution is simple, bring more IPMC members in from the ManifoldCF podling. That is exactly what we did for Lucy! From: Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2 On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 02:11:49PM -0500, Karl Wright wrote: Waiting for the last IPMC vote has become the longest and most uncertain part of the ManifoldCF release process. Considering the amount of effort and good work that the committers put into each release, it's surely not too much to ask for someone here to have a look at it? (We apologize; we really hate to bother you all, but those ARE the rules...) (Apologies in advance that this isn't a VOTE email...) For what it's worth, I tried to review a release candidate for an earlier ManifoldCF release, but I had to give up because I just didn't feel qualified to evaluate the legal aspect given ManifoldCF's large number of dependencies and my limited Java-fu. I find it very challenging to step in as a freelance IPMC member to cast a release vote on a project I haven't been involved with. I definitely consider the difficulty in scraping up these votes to be a significant weakness in how the Incubator operates right now, but I don't have any ideas about how to improve the situation. :( Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
Hi, On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: With Jukka's vote, that's 2 down. We need one more... Anyone mind helping with the release? BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Fwd: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
I think Jukka meant to post this to general@i.a.o... Karl -- Forwarded message -- From: Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2 To: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com Hi, +1 BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
With Jukka's vote, that's 2 down. We need one more... Karl On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Tommaso Teofili tommaso.teof...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Tommaso 2012/1/4 Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com Hello Incubator IPMC, Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.4-incubating, RC2. This RC has passed our podling vote and awaits your inspection. You can find the artifact at http://people.apache.org/~kwright/apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, or in svn at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/tags/release-0.4-incubating-RC2 . Thanks in advance! Karl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Mentor needed for ManifoldCF (Was: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2)
Hi, On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: With Jukka's vote, that's 2 down. We need one more... ... which highlights the fact that we need one more mentor for the project. Tommaso and I are currently more or less actively mentoring the project, while Gianugo doesn't seem to have enough spare cycles. Thus one extra pair of eyes would be great. The project itself is on a pretty good track. They've done a great work navigating some trickier licensing issues, and the community is following the Apache Way. The main trouble so far has been that the development efforts were for a long while carried almost single-handedly by Karl Wright, who's still by far the most active committer. But this diversity issue has recently been quickly solving itself with new committers becoming more active and new contributors showing up with patches. At this rate I believe the project should be ready to graduate within months. Extra mentor help would be appreciated not just in reviewing releases but also in helping make the transition to a more diverse community as smooth as possible (see the private list for a recent discussion on a related topic). Anyone ready to volunteer? BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
Hello Incubator IPMC, Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.4-incubating, RC2. This RC has passed our podling vote and awaits your inspection. You can find the artifact at http://people.apache.org/~kwright/apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, or in svn at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/tags/release-0.4-incubating-RC2. Thanks in advance! Karl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
+1 Tommaso 2012/1/4 Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com Hello Incubator IPMC, Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.4-incubating, RC2. This RC has passed our podling vote and awaits your inspection. You can find the artifact at http://people.apache.org/~kwright/apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, or in svn at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/tags/release-0.4-incubating-RC2 . Thanks in advance! Karl
