Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-02 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework It seems to me that the pivotal problem here is the word connector. On the one hand, it could mean almost anything to almost anyone. On the other hand, it has a specific denotation in the vicinity of httpd

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-30 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Guys, If I may: since we're discussing marks, why not post to trademarks@ and ask Shane and crew to weigh in? Maybe you have already, but if so, I haven't seen that discussion mentioned over here on gene...@incubator. Thanks! Cheers, Chris On 8/30/10 10:03 AM, Grant Ignersoll

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-30 Thread Benson Margulies
It seems to me that the pivotal problem here is the word connector. On the one hand, it could mean almost anything to almost anyone. On the other hand, it has a specific denotation in the vicinity of httpd. Everything at Apache is in the vicinity of httpd. I'd offer the following 'made-up'

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Miller
Mmmm...some good ones there - I like manifold :) On 8/30/10 1:23 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: It seems to me that the pivotal problem here is the word connector. On the one hand, it could mean almost anything to almost anyone. On the other hand, it has a specific denotation in the vicinity of

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-30 Thread Tim Williams
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that the pivotal problem here is the word connector. On the one hand, it could mean almost anything to almost anyone. On the other hand, it has a specific denotation in the vicinity of httpd.

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-30 Thread Benson Margulies
ok, I fell off the main sequence. On Aug 30, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, helium is the output product of a sun-like star, not the fuel. That would be hydrogen. Karl On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: It seems

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-27 Thread Glen Daniels
On 8/27/2010 12:15 PM, David Jencks wrote: For me as a know-nothing outsider the suggestion of Content Connector Framework pointed me a bit towards what it does. +1 from the peanut gallery. :) I had the same thought - part of my (also know-nothing outsider) knee-jerk issue with the ACF name is

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-27 Thread David Jencks
On Aug 27, 2010, at 5:22 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: On Aug 24, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Upayavira wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 06:41 +1000, Gav... wrote: I think the title of the name change is a little misleading. We are not Replacing 'Lucene' with 'Apache' . Apache is a given. IOW -

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-26 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Aug 25, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Upayavira wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 09:50 -0400, Grant Ingersoll wrote: So, how does this get resolved? Shall I call a formal vote for the IPMC? I rather like the name, but (somewhat) understand the objections. That being said, I'm not all that clever at

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-26 Thread Upayavira
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 06:41 -0400, Grant Ingersoll wrote: On Aug 25, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Upayavira wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 09:50 -0400, Grant Ingersoll wrote: So, how does this get resolved? Shall I call a formal vote for the IPMC? I rather like the name, but (somewhat) understand

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-26 Thread David Jencks
On Aug 26, 2010, at 3:41 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: On Aug 25, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Upayavira wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 09:50 -0400, Grant Ingersoll wrote: So, how does this get resolved? Shall I call a formal vote for the IPMC? I rather like the name, but (somewhat) understand the

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-26 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Aug 26, 2010, at 12:09 PM, David Jencks wrote: On Aug 26, 2010, at 3:41 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: On Aug 25, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Upayavira wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 09:50 -0400, Grant Ingersoll wrote: So, how does this get resolved? Shall I call a formal vote for the IPMC? I

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-25 Thread Pid
On 24/08/2010 22:55, Upayavira wrote: But people aren't going to be thinking about governing TLPs when making assumptions about a name. Does this project actually relate to Lucene or not? Apache Connectors Framework tells me it is either a generic connectors framework for connecting

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-25 Thread Simon Willnauer
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Pid p...@pidster.com wrote: On 24/08/2010 22:55, Upayavira wrote: But people aren't going to be thinking about governing TLPs when making assumptions about a name. Does this project actually relate to Lucene or not? Apache Connectors Framework tells me it

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-25 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Sure would have been nice if these objections (other than David's) would have been brought up last week before we went and changed everything (after waiting several days for feedback) b/c we were working under the assumption that no one thought it was a problem. At any rate, we'll go discuss.

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-25 Thread Upayavira
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 06:49 -0400, Grant Ingersoll wrote: Sure would have been nice if these objections (other than David's) would have been brought up last week before we went and changed everything (after waiting several days for feedback) b/c we were working under the assumption that no

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-25 Thread Grant Ingersoll
So, how does this get resolved? Shall I call a formal vote for the IPMC? I rather like the name, but (somewhat) understand the objections. That being said, I'm not all that clever at naming, so... On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Upayavira wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 06:49 -0400, Grant

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-24 Thread Simon Willnauer
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: On Aug 21, 2010, at 6:30 AM, Pid * wrote: Isn't there a risk of causing confusion with the Apache HTTPD mod_jk / Tomcat Connector? Looks pretty distinct to me. I agree, the risk that people confuse those two seems

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-24 Thread David Jencks
As I attempted to politely make clear earlier I find this name extremely confusing. Web connectors are just one subject area I assume this project covers. I think its generally a good idea if projects don't use their names to imply they are the only apache implementation of a certain kind of

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-24 Thread Glen Daniels
Gotta agree with David here. I'd prefer a less ambiguous name. --Glen David Jencks david_jen...@yahoo.com wrote: As I attempted to politely make clear earlier I find this name extremely confusing. Web connectors are just one subject area I assume this project covers. I think its generally

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-24 Thread Paul Borgermans
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Glen Daniels g...@thoughtcraft.com wrote: Gotta agree with David here.  I'd prefer a less ambiguous name. Something in the line of Apache Content Connectors Framework maybe? Just my 0.02€ Regards Paul

RE: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-24 Thread Gav...
:33 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Glen Daniels g...@thoughtcraft.com wrote: Gotta agree with David here. I'd prefer a less ambiguous name. Something

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-24 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: If the name is going to change (which sounds like a good idea) I'd suggest going for something more abstract, to which you can give meaning: Apache Connecto, or some such. +1. -- justin

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-23 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Aug 21, 2010, at 6:30 AM, Pid * wrote: Isn't there a risk of causing confusion with the Apache HTTPD mod_jk / Tomcat Connector? Looks pretty distinct to me. p On 18 Aug 2010, at 16:17, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: Do you think this requires a formal IPMC vote or

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-21 Thread Pid *
Isn't there a risk of causing confusion with the Apache HTTPD mod_jk / Tomcat Connector? p On 18 Aug 2010, at 16:17, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: Do you think this requires a formal IPMC vote or can we just do it? Thankfully, I think most of our mailing lists, etc. are

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-18 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Do you think this requires a formal IPMC vote or can we just do it? Thankfully, I think most of our mailing lists, etc. are already generic, so we shouldn't really need to change much in terms of branding other than the primary website. On Aug 16, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-16 Thread karl.wright
Hi, The Lucene Connectors Framework committers are voting to rename our project from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework, and to cease being a subproject of Lucene. What is the process for doing something like this? Karl

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-16 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Aug 16, 2010, at 9:59 AM, karl.wri...@nokia.com karl.wri...@nokia.com wrote: Hi, The Lucene Connectors Framework committers are voting to rename our project from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework, and to cease being a subproject of Lucene. What is the

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-16 Thread David Jencks
The relevance of this name might seem clear to project members, but not to me. From my background I would assume this is an implementation of the j2ca connector framework at apache, kind of like (the active part of) codehaus tranql. If I'd been working on tomcat or jetty recently I'd assume

RE: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Grant Ingersoll wrote: The Lucene Connectors Framework committers are voting to rename our project from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework, and to cease being a subproject of Lucene. What is the process for doing something like this? LCF is not a subproject of