Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps
Hi Kevin should know the process, talk with your mentor more. > Actually, we do not have enough mentors for our project and there is only one member in our team who has open-source experiences. This is a risk, but may not be a block :) To be honest, only personally, I prefer you to build the community first before starting to join the incubator, at least have a small user group before this. Open source and community development are a long term thing. In the ASF incubator, you need to follow other ASF requirements, such as how to talk(in mail list, in English), how to release, license requirement, incubator report, website, branding issue, paperwork. My preference comes from the reality for your team, I am afraid all these together could make you too much pressure. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 于2020年3月4日周三 下午9:12写道： > Mr. Wu., thank you so much. > > Actually, we do not have enough mentors for our project and there is only > one member in our team who has open-source experiences. > > Kevin A. McGrail is a professor of ASF who help us a lot with the proposal > and it is also happy for us to let him be one of the mentor of this project. > > We plan to propose our proposal to this mail list soon to see whether > there are mentors who are interested in our project. > > Regards. > Guochen. > > -邮件原件- > 发件人: Sheng Wu > 发送时间: 2020年3月4日 20:25 > 收件人: general@incubator.apache.org > 主题: Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps > > 于2020年3月4日周三 下午6:10写道： > > > Hi, Wu Sheng, > > > > Thank you for your quick reply and kind help. > > > > The source code of the HBlock project all comes from the contributions > > of regular employees of our company. > > There has been no open source project and no community of us before. > > > > In addition, at what point do we have to open all the source code? > > When do we need to sign any agreement with Apache / IPMC? > > > > I think we haven't been to that place. If you need to keep the source > codes private as much as possible, then it is after the IPMC vote about > accepting the project as a new incubator project, and your company SGA and > contributors' ICLA filed by ASF. > > My concerns are, > 1. If there is no community already if there any proof that any of your > team has some open-source experiences, knowing how to build the community. > This is an important sign for a healthy project. > 2. Do you have enough mentors(usually at least 3) from IPMC? You will need > their helps. > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > Regards. > > Guochen. > > > > -邮件原件- > > 发件人: Sheng Wu > > 发送时间: 2020年3月4日 17:29 > > 收件人: general@incubator.apache.org > > 主题: Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps > > > > Hi Guochen > > Answer inline. > > > > > > 于2020年3月4日周三 下午5:16写道： > > > > > Hi, all, > > > > > > I am a new man here. Nice to see you. > > > > > > We are China Telecom Corporation Limited Cloud Computing Branch > > > Corporation. We hope to contribute one of our projects name 'HBlock' > > > to Apache. > > > Now we hope to get into the incubation steps. > > > > > > We have prepare a proposal for this project, and before we propose > > > it to the this mailing list, would you please let me know: > > > 1. How long usually it takes from we propose it to the vote step? > > > > > > > Vote process usually started by your mentor or champion, which should > > be an incubator PMC member. > > > > > > > 2. During this process, do we need to provide any source code relate > > > to the project? > > > > > > > Usually yes, could you explain a little about the context of this > question? > > In the incubator, we usually expect at least a small community > > established already. So if there is not open source yet, then all > > members should only come from your company internal. The IPMC and > > potential mentors only could read your proposal. > > > > > > > 3. During this process, do we need to add more members of this > > > project to this mail list to answer questions from the incubator > > > professors or only an interface person is enough? > > > > > > > Before the vote, that is up to you. But during the incubating(if vote > > pass), discussion and decision should be made in the mail list, your > > project ml mostly. > > > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. >
Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps
Software grants and other legal paperwork aren’t required until the project has been voted to join the Incubator. On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 04:10 wrote: > Hi, Wu Sheng, > > Thank you for your quick reply and kind help. > > The source code of the HBlock project all comes from the contributions of > regular employees of our company. > There has been no open source project and no community of us before. > > In addition, at what point do we have to open all the source code? When do > we need to sign any agreement with Apache / IPMC? > > Regards. > Guochen. > > -邮件原件- > 发件人: Sheng Wu > 发送时间: 2020年3月4日 17:29 > 收件人: general@incubator.apache.org > 主题: Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps > > Hi Guochen > Answer inline. > > > 于2020年3月4日周三 下午5:16写道： > > > Hi, all, > > > > I am a new man here. Nice to see you. > > > > We are China Telecom Corporation Limited Cloud Computing Branch > > Corporation. We hope to contribute one of our projects name 'HBlock' > > to Apache. > > Now we hope to get into the incubation steps. > > > > We have prepare a proposal for this project, and before we propose it > > to the this mailing list, would you please let me know: > > 1. How long usually it takes from we propose it to the vote step? > > > > Vote process usually started by your mentor or champion, which should be > an incubator PMC member. > > > > 2. During this process, do we need to provide any source code relate > > to the project? > > > > Usually yes, could you explain a little about the context of this question? > In the incubator, we usually expect at least a small community established > already. So if there is not open source yet, then all members should only > come from your company internal. The IPMC and potential mentors only could > read your proposal. > > > > 3. During this process, do we need to add more members of this project > > to this mail list to answer questions from the incubator professors or > > only an interface person is enough? > > > > Before the vote, that is up to you. But during the incubating(if vote > pass), discussion and decision should be made in the mail list, your > project ml mostly. > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > Best wishes. > > Guochen. > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Matt Sicker
RE: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps
Hi, John, Thank you so much for your information, we will try our best to show you the project HBlock to get interest from the members of IPMC. Regards. Guochen. -邮件原件- 发件人: zhangli...@apache.org 发送时间: 2020年3月4日 21:10 收件人: general 主题: Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps Hi Guochen, It is not a prerequisite if the project has already established a good open source community, but it is better usually. A good open source community will help the project find champion and mentors more easier and may reduce the incubation duration. -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo Sheng Wu 于2020年3月4日周三 下午5:29写道： > Hi Guochen > Answer inline. > > > 于2020年3月4日周三 下午5:16写道： > > > Hi, all, > > > > I am a new man here. Nice to see you. > > > > We are China Telecom Corporation Limited Cloud Computing Branch > > Corporation. We hope to contribute one of our projects name 'HBlock' > > to Apache. > > Now we hope to get into the incubation steps. > > > > We have prepare a proposal for this project, and before we propose > > it to the this mailing list, would you please let me know: > > 1. How long usually it takes from we propose it to the vote step? > > > > Vote process usually started by your mentor or champion, which should > be an incubator PMC member. > > > > 2. During this process, do we need to provide any source code relate > > to the project? > > > > Usually yes, could you explain a little about the context of this question? > In the incubator, we usually expect at least a small community > established already. So if there is not open source yet, then all > members should only come from your company internal. The IPMC and > potential mentors only could read your proposal. > > > > 3. During this process, do we need to add more members of this > > project to this mail list to answer questions from the incubator > > professors or only > an > > interface person is enough? > > > > Before the vote, that is up to you. But during the incubating(if vote > pass), discussion and decision should be made in the mail list, your > project ml mostly. > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > Best wishes. > > Guochen. > > > > > > > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps
Mr. Wu., thank you so much. Actually, we do not have enough mentors for our project and there is only one member in our team who has open-source experiences. Kevin A. McGrail is a professor of ASF who help us a lot with the proposal and it is also happy for us to let him be one of the mentor of this project. We plan to propose our proposal to this mail list soon to see whether there are mentors who are interested in our project. Regards. Guochen. -邮件原件- 发件人: Sheng Wu 发送时间: 2020年3月4日 20:25 收件人: general@incubator.apache.org 主题: Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps 于2020年3月4日周三 下午6:10写道： > Hi, Wu Sheng, > > Thank you for your quick reply and kind help. > > The source code of the HBlock project all comes from the contributions > of regular employees of our company. > There has been no open source project and no community of us before. > > In addition, at what point do we have to open all the source code? > When do we need to sign any agreement with Apache / IPMC? > I think we haven't been to that place. If you need to keep the source codes private as much as possible, then it is after the IPMC vote about accepting the project as a new incubator project, and your company SGA and contributors' ICLA filed by ASF. My concerns are, 1. If there is no community already if there any proof that any of your team has some open-source experiences, knowing how to build the community. This is an important sign for a healthy project. 2. Do you have enough mentors(usually at least 3) from IPMC? You will need their helps. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 > > Regards. > Guochen. > > -邮件原件- > 发件人: Sheng Wu > 发送时间: 2020年3月4日 17:29 > 收件人: general@incubator.apache.org > 主题: Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps > > Hi Guochen > Answer inline. > > > 于2020年3月4日周三 下午5:16写道： > > > Hi, all, > > > > I am a new man here. Nice to see you. > > > > We are China Telecom Corporation Limited Cloud Computing Branch > > Corporation. We hope to contribute one of our projects name 'HBlock' > > to Apache. > > Now we hope to get into the incubation steps. > > > > We have prepare a proposal for this project, and before we propose > > it to the this mailing list, would you please let me know: > > 1. How long usually it takes from we propose it to the vote step? > > > > Vote process usually started by your mentor or champion, which should > be an incubator PMC member. > > > > 2. During this process, do we need to provide any source code relate > > to the project? > > > > Usually yes, could you explain a little about the context of this question? > In the incubator, we usually expect at least a small community > established already. So if there is not open source yet, then all > members should only come from your company internal. The IPMC and > potential mentors only could read your proposal. > > > > 3. During this process, do we need to add more members of this > > project to this mail list to answer questions from the incubator > > professors or only an interface person is enough? > > > > Before the vote, that is up to you. But during the incubating(if vote > pass), discussion and decision should be made in the mail list, your > project ml mostly. > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > Best wishes. > > Guochen. > > > > > > > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps
Hi Guochen, It is not a prerequisite if the project has already established a good open source community, but it is better usually. A good open source community will help the project find champion and mentors more easier and may reduce the incubation duration. -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo Sheng Wu 于2020年3月4日周三 下午5:29写道： > Hi Guochen > Answer inline. > > > 于2020年3月4日周三 下午5:16写道： > > > Hi, all, > > > > I am a new man here. Nice to see you. > > > > We are China Telecom Corporation Limited Cloud Computing Branch > > Corporation. We hope to contribute one of our projects name 'HBlock' to > > Apache. > > Now we hope to get into the incubation steps. > > > > We have prepare a proposal for this project, and before we propose it to > > the this mailing list, would you please let me know: > > 1. How long usually it takes from we propose it to the vote step? > > > > Vote process usually started by your mentor or champion, which should be an > incubator PMC member. > > > > 2. During this process, do we need to provide any source code relate to > > the project? > > > > Usually yes, could you explain a little about the context of this question? > In the incubator, we usually expect at least a small community established > already. So if there is not open source yet, then all members should only > come from your company internal. The IPMC and potential mentors only could > read your proposal. > > > > 3. During this process, do we need to add more members of this project to > > this mail list to answer questions from the incubator professors or only > an > > interface person is enough? > > > > Before the vote, that is up to you. But during the incubating(if vote > pass), discussion and decision should be made in the mail list, your > project ml mostly. > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > Best wishes. > > Guochen. > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >
Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps
于2020年3月4日周三 下午6:10写道： > Hi, Wu Sheng, > > Thank you for your quick reply and kind help. > > The source code of the HBlock project all comes from the contributions of > regular employees of our company. > There has been no open source project and no community of us before. > > In addition, at what point do we have to open all the source code? When do > we need to sign any agreement with Apache / IPMC? > I think we haven't been to that place. If you need to keep the source codes private as much as possible, then it is after the IPMC vote about accepting the project as a new incubator project, and your company SGA and contributors' ICLA filed by ASF. My concerns are, 1. If there is no community already if there any proof that any of your team has some open-source experiences, knowing how to build the community. This is an important sign for a healthy project. 2. Do you have enough mentors(usually at least 3) from IPMC? You will need their helps. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 > > Regards. > Guochen. > > -邮件原件- > 发件人: Sheng Wu > 发送时间: 2020年3月4日 17:29 > 收件人: general@incubator.apache.org > 主题: Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps > > Hi Guochen > Answer inline. > > > 于2020年3月4日周三 下午5:16写道： > > > Hi, all, > > > > I am a new man here. Nice to see you. > > > > We are China Telecom Corporation Limited Cloud Computing Branch > > Corporation. We hope to contribute one of our projects name 'HBlock' > > to Apache. > > Now we hope to get into the incubation steps. > > > > We have prepare a proposal for this project, and before we propose it > > to the this mailing list, would you please let me know: > > 1. How long usually it takes from we propose it to the vote step? > > > > Vote process usually started by your mentor or champion, which should be > an incubator PMC member. > > > > 2. During this process, do we need to provide any source code relate > > to the project? > > > > Usually yes, could you explain a little about the context of this question? > In the incubator, we usually expect at least a small community established > already. So if there is not open source yet, then all members should only > come from your company internal. The IPMC and potential mentors only could > read your proposal. > > > > 3. During this process, do we need to add more members of this project > > to this mail list to answer questions from the incubator professors or > > only an interface person is enough? > > > > Before the vote, that is up to you. But during the incubating(if vote > pass), discussion and decision should be made in the mail list, your > project ml mostly. > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > Best wishes. > > Guochen. > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
RE: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps
Hi, Wu Sheng, Thank you for your quick reply and kind help. The source code of the HBlock project all comes from the contributions of regular employees of our company. There has been no open source project and no community of us before. In addition, at what point do we have to open all the source code? When do we need to sign any agreement with Apache / IPMC? Regards. Guochen. -邮件原件- 发件人: Sheng Wu 发送时间: 2020年3月4日 17:29 收件人: general@incubator.apache.org 主题: Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps Hi Guochen Answer inline. 于2020年3月4日周三 下午5:16写道： > Hi, all, > > I am a new man here. Nice to see you. > > We are China Telecom Corporation Limited Cloud Computing Branch > Corporation. We hope to contribute one of our projects name 'HBlock' > to Apache. > Now we hope to get into the incubation steps. > > We have prepare a proposal for this project, and before we propose it > to the this mailing list, would you please let me know: > 1. How long usually it takes from we propose it to the vote step? > Vote process usually started by your mentor or champion, which should be an incubator PMC member. > 2. During this process, do we need to provide any source code relate > to the project? > Usually yes, could you explain a little about the context of this question? In the incubator, we usually expect at least a small community established already. So if there is not open source yet, then all members should only come from your company internal. The IPMC and potential mentors only could read your proposal. > 3. During this process, do we need to add more members of this project > to this mail list to answer questions from the incubator professors or > only an interface person is enough? > Before the vote, that is up to you. But during the incubating(if vote pass), discussion and decision should be made in the mail list, your project ml mostly. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 > > Best wishes. > Guochen. > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [Consultation]Some questions about incubation steps
Hi Guochen Answer inline. 于2020年3月4日周三 下午5:16写道： > Hi, all, > > I am a new man here. Nice to see you. > > We are China Telecom Corporation Limited Cloud Computing Branch > Corporation. We hope to contribute one of our projects name 'HBlock' to > Apache. > Now we hope to get into the incubation steps. > > We have prepare a proposal for this project, and before we propose it to > the this mailing list, would you please let me know: > 1. How long usually it takes from we propose it to the vote step? > Vote process usually started by your mentor or champion, which should be an incubator PMC member. > 2. During this process, do we need to provide any source code relate to > the project? > Usually yes, could you explain a little about the context of this question? In the incubator, we usually expect at least a small community established already. So if there is not open source yet, then all members should only come from your company internal. The IPMC and potential mentors only could read your proposal. > 3. During this process, do we need to add more members of this project to > this mail list to answer questions from the incubator professors or only an > interface person is enough? > Before the vote, that is up to you. But during the incubating(if vote pass), discussion and decision should be made in the mail list, your project ml mostly. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 > > Best wishes. > Guochen. > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
