Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: [...] their downstream code cannot be used.  Hence, the best outcome under the current licensing regime is for all core development to be done

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Ian Lynch
On 8 June 2011 08:43, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: [...] their downstream code cannot be used. Hence, the best outcome

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 09:43:45AM +0200, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: [...] their downstream code cannot be used.  Hence, the best outcome under

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Marvin, Le Wed, 8 Jun 2011 06:04:42 -0700, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com a écrit : On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 09:43:45AM +0200, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Noel J. Bergman

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/8/2011 10:06 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 08/06/2011 16:33, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: 1. find a proper coherence and relevance between Apache OOo LibreOffice on a technological level and on a distribution level 2. find a proper coherence with IBM's business requirements (Symphony). I

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:17 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 6/8/2011 10:06 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 08/06/2011 16:33, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: 1. find a proper coherence and relevance between Apache OOo LibreOffice on a technological level and on  a distribution level

RE: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ian Lynch wrote: It's no good saying if this or if that because we are where we are. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle :-). Exactly. This is really the crux of all the discussions. Is it better to maximise the development resource through cooperation or is it better to have two

RE: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Marvin Humphrey wrote: The code bases are already divergent and it would be very difficult to reconcile them. To make Apache OOo upstream from LO would mean one of two things OK, let's clarify for sensibility: Apache would be upstream (licensing acting as a diode), but not THE upstream. As

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, can we please just end this futile discussion? I agree, that water flows one direction only. But there needs to be water first to flow in any direction. If there will be enough to establish a flow, can only be seen, once the podling is in place. The risk estimation (will the podling run