Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
on 1/4/02 4:20 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They aren't even comparable, are they?
Of course not.
No, I agree, I was just teasing :)
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/dvsl/
When DVSL is integrated into Turbine's presentation layer
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
In my mind, all this long trail of thoughs yields the following
equation:
metacommunity size * community coherence * individual freedom =
constant
in result, if we unify the two projects, we double the size of the
metacommunity and we must pay the price of
At 10:40 AM 1/5/02 -0500, you wrote:
I would also like to personally commend Jon with his efforts to better
document Jakarta. He has put a lot into the Web site (probably 90%), and
we all owe him a great debt.
-Ted.
Despite Jon's candid remarks, as you put it, Ted, I too would like him to
* Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| It could even happen in the USA and it is quite dangerous to think
| otherwise (because then you are not alert).
Well, I would argue that it is happening in the US now with the new
military courts.
--
Gunnar Rønning - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior
Hi Paulo,
IMO Andrew puts the finger on why POI is only used on a server.
good!
One of my 2 interests (the other is indexing)
on POI is exactly the
typical one he describes:
- I want to be able build Word and Excel documents on a Web Server
without going back to use MS IIS and COM
Hello,
Each structure has a cost depending on his level of organization. I think
there is today to many project in the jakarta and the xml project. I feel
confuse about finding the right information at the right place. And I think
it's high time to merge xml and jakarta.
The way java is
At 15:31 05.01.2002 +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
[Snip]
In my mind, all this long trail of thoughs yields the following
equation:
metacommunity size * community coherence * individual freedom = constant
This equation is misleading. Coherence and individual freedom are
not inversely
Chris,
I think you are confusing project categorization with project community. These things
are very much unrelated. Regards, Ceki
At 23:44 05.01.2002 +0100, you wrote:
Hello,
Each structure has a cost depending on his level of organization. I think
there is today to many project in the
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
IMHO, XML does not and will never have a community as long as two of
its most important projects directly compete with each other. The
success of one is related with the failure of the other. XML
Community? Won't happen in a million years. How the did Crimson
become an
At 18:02 05.01.2002 -0500, you wrote:
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
IMHO, XML does not and will never have a community as long as two of
its most important projects directly compete with each other. The
success of one is related with the failure of the other. XML
Community? Won't happen in a million
on 1/5/02 3:02 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look closely, Xerces 2 is the designated successor to *both* Xerces 1 and
Crimson. The developers *are* working together. I won't pretend that
everything is 100% smooth sailing, but significant progress is being made.
Yea...just like
Not that I should have much of a role in this discussion but I'd like to
contribute some thoughts stemming from an offline discussion I had.
I think this discussion is still missing the point. There are a lot of
outsider articles on what is wrong with Apache these days, most of
them refer to
Biting the bait:
Maybe you and me are following different lists Jon.
AFAIK there is cooperation between Tomcat 3x and Tomcat 4x people.
I sure hope we will have a Tomcat 4 at least as nice to use as 3.3 is
at the moment. I am sure that most Tomcat 3.x users will upgrade as
soon as they feel
Hi Andrew,
Before trying to organizize too much how Open Source development works,
maybe you should consider that impositions of organization and discipline
could kill the Golden Eggs Chicken.
I can not express this POV better than Linus did in posts reported by
this article:
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
It's my understanding that Apache Projects' unity of purpose is
to encourage a collaborative, consensus-based development process
What does that exactly mean?
Perhaps Stefano's original preamble said it best
http://java.apache.org/main/constitution.html
On 1/5/02 7:28 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not trying to be combative - I have watched this thread (and
participated) with growing discomfort. I have to say that I think that
bringing XML and Jakarta together might destroy the thing we are
supposedly
trying to 'save' (again, I
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:26, Steve Downey wrote:
Your javac has a configuration setting for the class names of inner
classes? Although the inner classes use a $ embedded, rather than as a lead
character. It's a similar issue.
And whats that got to do with the price of fish? $ is not valid in
On 1/5/02 9:53 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/5/02 7:28 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not trying to be combative - I have watched this thread (and
participated) with growing discomfort. I have to say that I think that
bringing XML and Jakarta together
Playing Devil's advocate. I think it's fair to push back on adding things
to Jakarta...
On 1/5/02 9:53 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please read these posts and then tell me where you're not clear?
http://www.mail-archive.com/general%40jakarta.apache.org/msg02681.html
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From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: More abuse of coding styles...
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:26, Steve Downey wrote:
Your javac has a configuration setting for the class
On 1/5/02 11:22 PM, Steve Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In what way does it make it acceptable for them to write poor code? For
example, the JSP spec reserves _jsp, jsp, _jspx and jspx for identifiers
used in the classes generated by the page compiler. What other way do you
propose to
I was leafing through my copy of A Pattern Language by Alexander, Ishikawa
and Silverstein, which is really about architecture of human habitat
(buildings and environs), and ran across some interesting assertions about
society and groups.
I haven't read the book end to end, as I just pick it up
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