Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/15/07, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From a practical pov isn't java already associated with the word grouping "commons apache"? No, that's the point http://commons.apache.org/ Although this commons project was supposed to replace the commons efforts in jakarta.apache and x

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
From a practical pov isn't java already associated with the word grouping "commons apache"? If you need a differentiator I would put it in the commons-net.apache.org or whatever name instead of soiling the existing "branding" that has already been cemented in everyones minds whether people like

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Should it be commons4j.apache.org? (j = java or jakarta)? am not worried about the java package name... thanks, dims On 5/14/07, Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Travelling ATM, limited internet My preference is for a java-only commons.apache.org. I don't see that as scary or

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
That's the most logical argument I've seen on this thread. :) +1 (probably not binding and not mattering ) On 5/14/07, Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, from a practical matter, our projects already use org.apache.commons, so this is already recognised in the ASF. Steph

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Stephen Colebourne
Travelling ATM, limited internet My preference is for a java-only commons.apache.org. I don't see that as scary or unreasonable. My +1 is based on that assumption. Also, from a practical matter, our projects already use org.apache.commons, so this is already recognised in the ASF. Stephen

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/14/07, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If moving commons TLP is just a "twisted" (maybe a bad choice of a word) way to come back to jakarta.apache.org in the end, I am -1 on the TLP move.. IF, its a big if and one I think we need to devote some though, and a *modest* ;-) am

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Martin van den Bemt
If moving commons TLP is just a "twisted" (maybe a bad choice of a word) way to come back to jakarta.apache.org in the end, I am -1 on the TLP move.. We currently have 2 projects moving TLP (Turbine and POI) and after that we need to start thinking about every other project at Jakarta. So if th

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
-1 to Commons being Jakarta. Commons should be commons, have its own PMC/domain. It already has its own brand recognition. I had an interesting conversation with a large financial customer about it just before I left JBoss. They weren't clearly even aware that commons was part of Jakarta. -

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ ] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... -1 I would like to see the issues raised regarding the name resolved. I would also like to see the options regarding commons as a successor to t

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/14/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As my random suggestion that Ted quoted points out, you can have a PMC without their having to be TLP. Least I was told that a couple of years ago either on board@ or face to face, so we could do the following: * Create the Jakarta Commons PMC