Re: comments on a project

2006-01-11 Thread Ortwin Glück
Dennis Kempin wrote: Hello Ortwin, * You mention "problems with JSP". What are they? At first I tried to use JSP without any framework or taglib. As you are coming from PHP that approach seems somehow natural, but of course is totally wrong. > In contrast to templates JSP doesn't help m

Re: comments on a project

2006-01-10 Thread Will Glass-Husain
J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: RE: comments on a project At first I tried to use JSP without any framework or taglib. In contrast to templates JSP doesn't help much on seperating logic and html c

RE: comments on a project

2006-01-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> At first I tried to use JSP without any framework or taglib. In > contrast to templates JSP doesn't help much on seperating logic > and html code Please see the JSP 2.0 Specification for Tag Files. Tags are your friends, and Tag Files make them easy to write. > And I could not get used to the

Re: comments on a project

2006-01-10 Thread Dennis Kempin
Hello Ortwin, * You mention "problems with JSP". What are they? At first I tried to use JSP without any framework or taglib. In contrast to templates JSP doesn't help much on seperating logic and html code, because you still need comparatively much code to iterate over Lists, or print out s

Re: comments on a project

2006-01-10 Thread Ortwin Glück
Dennis, I don't want to discourage you. But I fail to see any of the following: * You mention "problems with JSP". What are they? * Which frameworks do you mean and what's the problem with them? * What does you framework make better? * Why do you invent a proprietary XML scripting facility? JSTL