RE: Jakarta PMC Nomination - Rejection

2002-02-04 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Hola Santiago! -Mensaje original- De: Santiago Gala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] P.S.: (This holds for any Apache Committer coming to Madrid. I feel quite isolated here). Hey, perhaps there are no Apache Committers in Madrid, but there are surely lots of Apache users! :) Un saludo,

Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Paul Hammant
Folks, *Context* To remind you, I am a committer on Avalon and Commons with intersts in anything that uses avalon-phoenix. Many months ago, I placed a long worked on project called Jesktop inside jakarta-avalon-cornerstone's CVS as a demo application for Avalon-Phoenix. I then did quite a

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Paul Hammant
Ted, Has there been a vote regarding this in Avalon? It is in progress and so far in favour of a move. I dont think it will be vetoed as I was the only one that ever committed changes. It won't be useful until I complete the mime-manager-registry (for double click associations etc), so

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Sam Ruby
Paul Hammant wrote: I'm proposing moving it off jakarta CVS and onto sourceforge, where committers can be added at will without the faux-pas of access to Avalon's huge codebase. The reason I am asking here is that it is taking code away from Apache. It will still be Apache licensed and

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Sam Ruby
Paul Hammant wrote: I would love for Jesktop (impl) to remain at Apache as a top-level project, but a) it is not in scope and b) suffers from the wel known catch-22 of having no community yet. I hope the rules change in teh future so I can bring it back. What rules do you want changed?

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Paul Hammant
Sam, I would love for Jesktop (impl) to remain at Apache as a top-level project, but a) it is not in scope and b) suffers from the wel known catch-22 of having no community yet. I hope the rules change in teh future so I can bring it back. What rules do you want changed? 1) Apache

jkarta-site2

2002-02-04 Thread Danny Angus
Hi, I'm about to release James 2.0a2, and I'd like it to appear in news so two questions .. 1/ please can I have karma for jakarta-site2, Or would posting a Patch be quicker? 2/ if I add it to news xdoc do I also have to add it to index under headlines, and.. if I do that do I knock off the

Re: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-04 Thread Oleg V Alexeev
Hello Morgan, +1 Saturday, February 02, 2002, 1:16:55 AM, you wrote: MD I would like to nominate Craig McClanahan for re-election to the PMC. MD Craig works on a lot more projects than I do (than _most_ people do), so I MD cannot give a complete rundown of his accomplishments. I can say,

Re: jkarta-site2

2002-02-04 Thread Ted Husted
Danny Angus wrote: 2/ if I add it to news xdoc do I also have to add it to index under headlines, and.. if I do that do I knock off the earliest headline to keep the lists the same length. +1 Actually, I'm thinking five looks a little crowded. If you wanted to go with three, I think that

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Sam Ruby
Paul Hammant wrote: What rules do you want changed? 1) Apache considering that GUI apps are legitimate targets for ASF attentions. 2) If jakarta is not the place, then a foundary for GUI apps/comps/tools These rules don't seem to be present in my copy, can you point me to where I can find

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Paul Hammant
Sam, What rules do you want changed? 1) Apache considering that GUI apps are legitimate targets for ASF attentions. 2) If jakarta is not the place, then a foundary for GUI apps/comps/tools These rules don't seem to be present in my copy, can you point me to where I can find them? ;-) OK OK,

Re: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful

2002-02-04 Thread Tim Hyde
Hi Alex, You ask why I think it's important to distinguish between the characteristics of a remote call and a local one. One of the nicest things on this topic I found is a paper from Sun themselves - http://research.sun.com/technical-reports/1994/sml1_tr-94-29.pdf From the date, I would think

PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread jean-frederic clere
I would like to nominate Costin Manolache for election to the PMC. Costin has a wide area knowledge of ASF projects (Apr, httpd 1.3/2.0, tomcat3.x/4.0, Ant...). He has been contributing to Tomcat since the very first versions. He has the patience of a good teacher and the spirit of a real

RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful

2002-02-04 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Hi Tim! This is good news indeed: someone took the time to actually read a message and respond to it, instead of sending 100's of nonsensical one-liners ;) Answer inline. -Mensaje original- De: Tim Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi Alex, You ask why I think it's important to

RE: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
I second that nomination. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jean-frederic clere Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

To jvote or not to jvote

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
From the PMC nomination postings, some are going to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and some not. Why? What are the rules? If they all should, then a lot are missing! Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 2/4/02 12:59 PM, jean-frederic clere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to nominate Costin Manolache for election to the PMC. Costin has a wide area knowledge of ASF projects (Apr, httpd 1.3/2.0, tomcat3.x/4.0, Ant...). He has been contributing to Tomcat since the very first

Re: URGENT: 3rd Party jar's in apache CVS need immediate action.

2002-02-04 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Kimbro Staken : On Thursday, January 31, 2002, at 08:46 AM, Guillaume Rousse wrote: I don't think this is really a *benefit* of Java software. Nothing prevent a native software to provide staticaly-linked binaries of make for every existing platforms in CVS. The fact that

Re: To jvote or not to jvote

2002-02-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Paulo Gaspar wrote: From the PMC nomination postings, some are going to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and some not. Why? What are the rules? See below. We'll debug the message for the next election to make sure it is clearer. What we will be checking on the 7th is what we have

Re: PMC Nomination - Morgan Delagrange

2002-02-04 Thread Morgan Delagrange
I accept this nomination, which was originally sent to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Thanks Rod! - Original Message - From: Waldhoff, Rodney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jakarta General List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: PMC Nomination - Morgan

RE: To jvote or not to jvote

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Thanks Dirk. But then, from what I can see in the general list, only Geir has both the nomination and the 2 necessary additional +1s all sent to jvote. How should this be fixed? This is what I see in general: (I am skipping those that refused the nomination.) - Ted Husted The 3rd +1

RE: To jvote or not to jvote

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Thanks Dirk. But then, from what I can see in the general list, only Geir has both the nomination and the 2 necessary additional +1s all sent to jvote. How should this be fixed? This is what I see in general: (I am skipping those that refused the nomination.) - Ted Husted The 3rd +1

Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread Bojan Smojver
Another legend. +1 by all means. Bojan On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 04:59, jean-frederic clere wrote: I would like to nominate Costin Manolache for election to the PMC. Costin has a wide area knowledge of ASF projects (Apr, httpd 1.3/2.0, tomcat3.x/4.0, Ant...). He has been contributing to

Re: To jvote or not to jvote

2002-02-04 Thread Morgan Delagrange
ARE two +1 votes necessary? That was not mentioned in the original email Announcement: JakartaPMC elections for 2002. (Just to stave off any potential debate here, the ASF-appointed administrator gets to decide how elections are run. It's not our call.) - Original Message - From:

RE: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread Ignacio J. Ortega
+1 Saludos , Ignacio J. Ortega -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de jean-frederic clere Enviado el: lunes 4 de febrero de 2002 18:59 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache I would

Broken Link On Struts Page

2002-02-04 Thread dpwhite
FYI - On this page: http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/resources.html, the link called StrutsResourcesChecker to this page: http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/resources/checker.html is broken. David -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: Broken Link On Struts Page

2002-02-04 Thread Ted Husted
The best place to post a message like this is the Struts-DEV list. Each subproject maintains their own area of the Web site. But in this case, I'll take care of it :-) -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Java Web Development with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web

RE: To jvote or not to jvote

2002-02-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Paulo Gaspar wrote: But then, from what I can see in the general list, only Geir has both the nomination and the 2 necessary additional +1s all sent to jvote. How should this be fixed? I fear by having to be manually be going through the archives careully. Thanks for

Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread hgomez
+1 We should call Costin Professor since he's a terrific example of patience and excellence, a very consensual man and a real OSS and ASF spirit defensor jean-frederic clere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I would like to nominate Costin Manolache for election to the PMC. Costin has a

Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread hgo
+1 We should call Costin Professor since he's a terrific example of patience and excellence, a very consensual man and a real OSS and ASF spirit defensor jean-frederic clere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I would like to nominate Costin Manolache for election to the PMC. Costin has a

Re: Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

2002-02-04 Thread hgo
The only people who can fix these things is Sun. This mailing list sounds like a black hole and these types of politics usually don't work against Sun (neither do online polls)... The way to get Sun's attention is to corner them into a hole and then pound on their head for a few years.

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 09:18, Sam Ruby wrote: Paul Hammant wrote: What rules do you want changed? 1) Apache considering that GUI apps are legitimate targets for ASF attentions. 2) If jakarta is not the place, then a foundary for GUI apps/comps/tools These rules don't seem to be

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 2/4/02 7:04 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 09:18, Sam Ruby wrote: Paul Hammant wrote: What rules do you want changed? 1) Apache considering that GUI apps are legitimate targets for ASF attentions. 2) If jakarta is not the place, then a foundary

Re: a tool for java api documentation

2002-02-04 Thread Eitan Suez
The goal of dbdoc is the same as javadoc's: to produce documentation and make it accessible via a web browser. Forcibly then there must exist similarities between the two. dbdoc actually uses javadoc at runtime to generate the in-memory object model of java packages. so i see it more as an

Re: a tool for java api documentation

2002-02-04 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2/4/02 4:23 PM, Eitan Suez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the dbdoc gui is jsp/template-based, which makes it much easier to maintain, revise, and/or enhance. To bad you didn't use Velocity, then I would believe your claim. :-) Anyway, when are you going to make this cool tool available as

Re: Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

2002-02-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 16:58, Kevin A. Burton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry for the X-post. Then don't do it. I just created a new mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can sign up here: http://entropy.yi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/java-is-dead

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I thought the same of POI, but the most popular use case was claimed to be on the server... whoa, I'll shut up now less I forget which end is up again. Every microsoft server requires a GUI, for example :) And a rapid fire reset button. -- Geir Magnusson Jr.

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 2/4/02 8:00 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the same of POI, but the most popular use case was claimed to be on the server... whoa, I'll shut up now less I forget which end is up again. Every microsoft server requires a GUI, for example :) And a

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 20:12, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 2/4/02 8:00 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the same of POI, but the most popular use case was claimed to be on the server... whoa, I'll shut up now less I forget which end is up again.

Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

2002-02-04 Thread Kevin A. Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry for the X-post. I just created a new mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can sign up here: http://entropy.yi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/java-is-dead ... Are you upset at the way Java is being handled by SUN? Do you feel lied to

Re: Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

2002-02-04 Thread Kevin A. Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 2/4/02 1:58 PM, Kevin A. Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created the java-is-dead mailing list to address these issues. Note that this mailing list is a place to help fix things. The

RE: Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

2002-02-04 Thread Aaron Smuts
Could someone explain the issue, especially with reference to JSR107 (JCACHE). Aaron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin A. Burton Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:48 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Java is dead... but

RE: Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

2002-02-04 Thread Aaron Smuts
-Original Message- From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Java is dead... but it could still be saved! on 2/4/02 8:29 PM, Aaron Smuts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone explain the