Ceki are you sure?
I think we definitely need a solid document countering the
idyllic but false world depicted
by the FSF.
I agree with comments you have made already, about the importance of licence
and legal to ASF, Jakarta, and individuals involved, but I'm still not
convinced that
Folks,
Enterprise Object Broker (EOB) is an application server that tries to a
be a simpler EJB container. It is not complete yet, but we have many
demos showing local, remote, and webapp usage.
Take a look at http://eob.sourceforge.net/
Features:
* Not J2EE compliant.
* Real Java
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
The question is: How do you want to spend your time?
Possible answers:
1 Fighting an unwinnable (defined as the argument having a logical
conclusion where one side overwhelmingly wins) religious war with the
GNU hordes (hirds? hurds?
Hi Ceki,
-Mensaje original-
De: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Enviado el: miércoles 6 de marzo de 2002 23:39
Para: Jakarta General List
[snip]
Asunto: Re: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?
The Working Without Copyleft article is remarkably good. The point
about the
you have the option of following the terms and conditions
either of that version or of any later version published by the Free
Software Foundation. If the Library does not specify a license version
number, you may choose any version ever published by the Free Software
Foundation.
Sounds
At 09:16 07/03/02, Danny Angus wrote:
It is spelled licence. ;-)
Wow - we managed to correct Jon on a technical point! (Just kidding Jon -
no offence)
licenSe is what Apache Software Foundation does - ie the act of licensing.
licenCe is the document or permit given - eg the file itself.
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=license
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=licence
alex wrote:
At 09:16 07/03/02, Danny Angus wrote:
It is spelled licence. ;-)
Wow - we managed to correct Jon on a technical point! (Just kidding Jon -
no offence)
licenSe is what Apache
Hi Alex,
You are absolutely right. I thought I had this one nailed but
apparently not. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Regards, Ceki
Asunto: Re: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?
The Working Without Copyleft article is remarkably good. The point
about the FSF controlling the LGPL
Ceki are you sure?
I think we definitely need a solid document countering the
idyllic but false world depicted
by the FSF.
I agree with comments you have made already, about the importance of licence
and legal to ASF, Jakarta, and individuals involved, but I'm still not
convinced that
Ceki,
My own personal experience indicates that if you first seek consesus
before acting, you are likely to never get anywhere. Regards, Ceki
Point taken, however in this case surely some degree of peer approval needs
to be gained before people publicly express views as the views of the
On 3/7/02 8:06 AM, Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ceki,
My own personal experience indicates that if you first seek consesus
before acting, you are likely to never get anywhere. Regards, Ceki
Point taken, however in this case surely some degree of peer approval needs
to be
Hi Stefano,
I totally agree, here is the problem:
I've offered to write this script provided with the relevant
server/directory information. I've offered to help however I can to get
the POI website up, the builds and releases up, etc.
No one has taken me up on it. Via CVS is the ONLY way
Jeff Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
As promised, I've written up an ASL vs. GPL page, for possible
inclusion on jakarta-site2. I've more tried to capture the spirit of the
thing from the Apache POV, than duplicate the detailed arguments in the
O'Reilly article referenced at the end.
Marc Saegesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would love to see a document describes the Apache Software License, the
philosophy behind it and why we think the ASL is a good thing. What I don't
want is another tirade about why GPL sucks.
That's a good thing (TM) ,but, as well, I don't think
Paul Hammant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Folks,
Enterprise Object Broker (EOB) is an application server that tries to a
be a simpler EJB container. It is not complete yet, but we have many
demos showing local, remote, and webapp usage.
Ok. Will we all stop using general@jakarta for
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 06:03:21PM +, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
Paul Hammant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Folks,
Enterprise Object Broker (EOB) is an application server that tries to a
be a simpler EJB container. It is not complete yet, but we have many
demos showing local, remote, and
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Jeff Turner wrote:
Then could we perhaps have a news@jakarta list for this sort of thing? A
lot of people find announcements like this relevant and interesting.
+1 as I like those messages - but general@ should be kept clean
and lean for jakarta projects and
Well, given that there is only 19 days until the 26th and given that I
haven't seen any discussion about JakartaOne other than some 'ideas' that
people keep throwing out there (and no actual committee being formed to
handle the planning and no decisions being made), it appears to me that no
one
On 3/7/02 4:48 PM, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, given that there is only 19 days until the 26th and given that I
haven't seen any discussion about JakartaOne other than some 'ideas' that
people keep throwing out there (and no actual committee being formed to
handle the
On 3/7/02 4:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or call it usefull-tidbits or something :-), gossip@, watercooler@,
the-bar@, coffeshop@, wathever ;-) Something clearly meant for
out of scope things.
How about 'ot@'
--
Geir Magnusson Jr.
on 3/7/02 1:52 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for the rest, if you could give some indication of what would be
necessary for us to do - do we have to arrange for anything in the social
space such as refreshments, or is that available from StudioZ?
I need to know expected
Or.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. leave those notes you're not sure if
anyone reads or not.
-Original Message-
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:53 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: news@jakarta
On 3/7/02 4:48 PM, [EMAIL
I think the original suggestion of [EMAIL PROTECTED] was fine.
It is not mysterious or hard to remember, and most of the OT threads
around here are generated by some type of news item.
-Ted.
Jeff Turner wrote:
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 06:03:21PM +, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
Paul Hammant
... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...
I sure like this one!
=:o)
Paulo
-Original Message-
From: Danny Angus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:28 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: news@jakarta
Or.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. leave those notes you're
not
Are you referring to the noun or the verb?
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=licence*1+0
In short, licence is the noun, license is the verb.
Geez, these Americans think they speak English... ;-) ;-)
--
Martin Cooper
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From: Ted Husted [EMAIL
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